Posted on 07/26/2006 6:30:02 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch
Right now it is Israel vs Hezabaloo/Syria/Iran. If Israel goes into Syria, do other countries join in? Do other Arab states (Egypt, Jordan etal) stay out or pile on Israel? Do any countries turn against Iran and Syria. Who does Russia support? Does the US commit troops?
I'd say it has the potential of getting about this messy . . .
It can get pretty messy as long as the rest of the world chooses to sit back and gripe. That part of the world could be tamed by a total region wide war but we can't do it alone.
OK, but whose nukes? Israel? Russia? China? France?
Or steam through the Straits of Hormuz (That large gray thing on the horizon is the USS Truman, 4 acres of sovereign US territory, manned by 5000 bad-a$$ sailors and Marines.)
It's very important, imho, to bring Russia into the discussion to hold them accountable for their influence and to prevent them from hiding behind the illusion of being disassociated from what's going on. In my opinion, mideast instability plays very favorably for them, and this may even be a page from their playbook, perhaps even their doing.
Bring Russia to the table. And get ready to put a few smart bombs into Iran.
I'm praying the whole thing gets diffused.
Don't forget about India & Pakistan.
When Ishmael says to Isaac ... "Yer right .. I'm sorry ... I'm not the son of promise ... you are." ... All hostilities on planet Earth will cease.
If only that were so.....
Israel most likely, will not respond to anything less than nuclear strikes with nukes, but if/when they get nuked, so will others in short order.
US, Russia, China, France, hell even Pakistan and India had a serious sit down about this - use nukes, destroy your country, ruin your crops for decades to come, become an international pariah, pain, starvation, sickness and dying - you lose no matter what and you're not coming back from that for multiple generations.
The difference is that these countries have secular governments, not a religious mandate to kill all non-believers. Nukes are an awfully big club that can kill an awful lot of non-believers.
Israel would be unlikely to go into Syria unless Syria did something on the Golan Heights (which they won't).
Do other Arab states (Egypt, Jordan etal) stay out or pile on Israel?
They'll let Israel take care of business -- both Jordan and Egypt have salamikaze problems of their own, and letting Israel pound Hezbollah, Hamas, and the rest of the terrorists serves their interests.
Do any countries turn against Iran and Syria.
That's already happening. The G-8 has actually recognized the forces behind Hezbollah. I think most of the countries in the region, including Syria, would be happy to see somebody take care of Iran. I think Syria's position is probably best explained in terms of Bashir Assad being a weak leader who will do what's needed to stay in power, including being Iran's vassal.
Who does Russia support?
Russia. Which at the moment translates into letting Israel take care of business.
Does the US commit troops?
No need -- we've got Israel's back by being in Afghanistan and Iraq, not to mention being in full naval control of both the Mediterranean and Persian Gulf regions.
Few observations.
China is scared out of their minds right now. Iran provides them with most of their oil and an Israeli hit on the Iranian oil fields will devastate China.
Russia is scared out of thier minds right now. Chechen rebels and the muzzies that are there can wreak havoc on Moscow and other cities.
The EU is scared out of their minds for the same two reasons above. Last thing they need is another Paris is burning moment.
While it looks bad for the US, we have had five years of getting our FBI and Intelligence services aligned to fight terrorism at home. For us it is sit back, watch the fireworks and pray that we aren't hit.
Meanwhile, everyone hates the Jews and are doing everything in their power to appease the Hezzies because they do not want to be placed on their hit list. What no one realizes is that this is a Muzzy Crusade against Judaism and Christianity. Our heads are in the sand and the left wings in the west are hoping that the crocodile eats them last.
World war? Oh yeah and it is time the west got a set and went after radical Islam. Let the Communists pick a side and have the final battle now before it is too late.
I'm not sure how to read this.
Belief in whom?
"OK, but whose nukes? Israel? Russia? China? France?"
Yes.
Here's what I ran up my pole 2 weeks ago, and it'll fly for the duration.
Infidels, anyone who is not Muslim.
Great home page, BTW...
Yeah ... I like that.
And you're right, part of that thought remained in my head, and I didn't actually type it - didn't mean to confuse.
Thank you.
What I am curious about is Iran was supposed to make a response on the 22nd regarding their uranium enrichment. Did I miss it or did they just do nothing?
I thought that was what you meant, but I could also read it as a 'final solution' sentiment ... nuke the arabs.
Bang on the money at every point
August 22. I believe that has something to do with the 12th Imam.
>>>Iran wants to get froggy>>>
Iran and North Korean are both doing the 'DON'T LOOK AT THEM, LOOK AT MEEEEE!!" thing right now. Armeawhateverhisnameis said "Iran will NOT be ignored!!". That says alot.
But I don't think this will escalate into anything big. I think Isreal will bow to the US, as the US will bow the UN for a 'cease-fire' which will only allow more weapons and 'soldiers' into Lebanon for another 'skirmish'.
A few years will pass, and the terrorists will start the same pattern again, this time with better weapons, maybe even nukes.
(A little tinfoilish speculation: observe that the last Israeli pullout from Lebanon was in 2000 - 6 years ago. If they're dragged into a premature ceasefire now, and things quiet down, they'll re-erupt in 2012 if the pattern holds true. And 2012 marks the 'end of days' on the Mayan calendar ...)
Right now, we're cleanin' out the sewers. Next we'll sweep the streets n' wash out the gutters. Could take awhile. But when we're done, it'll be a new day with a gorgeous Sonrise.
They asked that Hizz'balaah hit Israel. They kidnapped two men on the north site of Israel. They didn't bother to answer about the nuclear situation. They have managed to evade answering that much longer. Look those kooks are working on a nuclear weapon. If they can destroy Tel Aviv, then "they win" according to them.
Ping for a GREAT picture to add to your FR home page and your website!!!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1672488/posts?page=19#19
Iran and Company will be "cleansed by fire".
I think that if Israel goes into Syria, China goes into Taiwan...
A freeper mentioned Aug 21 was delivery date from NK of a delivery system to Iran.
I head the Christian Supporters Of Israel List at Free Republic, as well as the America At War site, which gets some regular traffic.
Can I use this picture? Like Convert from ECUSA pointed out, it would be a good addition to my site and profile page. I want to put your screen name at the bottom, along with the URL to Free Republic, also. It's a great picture because it isn't commercial, but grass roots.
Mike ~
bump into the night
I have been very frightened about what can happen, not so much for me (I am in a pretty secure place), but for my family and friends, including friends that have family members in Israel.
And I do not trust the Pakistanis, who could attack India, who could counterattack.
And we are talking nuclear stuff, not missles.
And I am VERY concerned terrorists (hunkered down in every country on the globe) have been the recipients of Saddam's WMD, as well as N. Koreas, Russias.
It's a dicey time, there's no doubt about it.
I'm thinking in my lifetime we're more likely to see a chemical attack than nuclear. But that's just a guess.
Actually I -- in my uneducated guess without authority or knowledge -- believe you are right.
ANTHRAX.
It has been attempted once in the U.S. There is some reason that has never been resolved, revealed to the press and public, and the U.S. govt. STRESSED, very strongly, after 9/11 certain ways to protect yourself (duct tape come to mind?).
And that anthrax was linked to the terrorists, no matter what the msm tries to tell us.
9/11 Hijacker sought treatment for red hands (anthrax).
October 11, 2001. Palm Beach Post.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/546116/posts
Tabloid Editor rented apartment to two 9/11 hijackers. The tabloid lost a worker to anthrax.
October 15, 2001. Miami Herald.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/548061/posts
Hijackers linked to anthrax.
October 15, 2001. St. Petersburg Times.
http://www.sptimes.com/News/101501/Worldandnation/Hijackers_linked_to_t.shtml
9/11 Hijackers treated for anthrax.
March 23, 2002. The New York Times.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/652000/posts
Remember Anthrax?
April 20, 2002. The Weekly Standard.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/669487/posts
9/24/01. ABC.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/531023/posts
Hijacker treated for anthrax.
May 9, 2002. The Wall Street Journal.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/682921/posts
Atta tried to buy a cropduster.
June 6, 2002. ABC.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/695924/posts
Analysis of anthrax letters.
June 19, 2002. Instapundit.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/703075/posts?page=44#44
Freeper My Identity research on anthrax letters. Post #44.
6/20/02.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/703075/posts?page=44#44
The silica used in the anthrax attacks traced to Iraq.
October 28, 2002. The Washington Post.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A28334-2002Oct27¬Found=true
I sent you FReep Mail and yes you can use the photo any way you want anywhere you want.
Jim
Everybody in the region hates Israel, but Egypt, Jordan, UAE, and Saudi Arabia do NOT want Iran dominating the region. Syria and Lebanon are not powerful enough to be anything but a vassal to Iran. Turkey, other than keeping the Kurds out, appears to be doing it's best to not have a dog in this fight.
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