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Immigration protesters scuffle in New York
Reuters on Yahoo ^ | 7/26/06 | Michelle Nichols

Posted on 07/26/2006 5:51:19 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Immigration activists clashed at the site of the World Trade Center on Wednesday when an anti-illegal immigration group called for secure borders to avoid a repeat of the September 11 attacks and counterprotesters yelled "racists go home."

Members of the Minuteman Project, which patrols the U.S.-Mexican border for illegal immigrants, pushed and shoved members of an immigrant rights group that showed up at the event.

Jim Gilchrist and Jerome Corsi, authors of "Minutemen: The Battle to Secure America's Borders," were whisked away when some immigrant rights supporters broke through a police barrier and scuffled with Minutemen supporters.

Corsi, who also wrote a book critical of Sen. John Kerry's 2004 presidential campaign, accused President Bush of leaving U.S. borders wide open.

"When the World Trade Center was attacked, we saw a failure of the Bush administration to protect our borders and to enforce our immigration laws. This tragedy could be repeated," Corsi said.

Gilchrist and Corsi said they held their event at Ground Zero to dedicate their book to the families of the September 11 victims.

About 50 immigrant rights advocates waved placards reading, "New York is an immigrant town -- Minuteman not welcome," while about 30 anti-illegal immigration protesters held banners that said, "Stop the invasion" and "U.S. jobs for U.S. citizens."

Polls show immigration reform is an important issue to many Americans, but negotiations over immigration reform have stalled in the U.S. Congress. The House of Representatives and the Senate have passed vastly different bills and it is increasingly unlikely the two sides will bridge differences ahead of the November congressional elections.

Senate legislation would give the estimated 12 million illegal immigrants a chance to earn U.S. citizenship, while the House bill that would criminalize illegal presence.

Stephen Durham, 58, was one of 50 activists who protested the Minutemen's appearance in New York.

"I'm really appalled that (the Minuteman Project) would use 9/11 to publicize a plan (to secure U.S. borders) which is fundamentally so unconstitutional and un-American," he said. "We are all immigrants. Immigrant labor built America."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections; US: New Jersey; US: New York
KEYWORDS: aliens; corsi; gilchrist; groundzero; immigrantlist; immigration; minuteman; minutemen; newyork; nyc; nyice; protesters; scuffle

Jim Gilchrist, founder of the Minuteman Project, joins the New Yorkers for Immigration Control and Enforcement for a rally at 'ground zero' Wednesday, July 26, 2006, in New York. The Minuteman Project is a group dedicated to restricting immigration to the United States and are most well known for their citizen observation patrols along the US-Mexico border. (AP Photo/Seth Wenig)


Dr. Jerome Corsi, right, co-author of 'Minutemen: The Battle to Secure America's Borders', makes his way through pro-immigration protesters after a rally at ground zero Wednesday, July 26, 2006, in New York. The Minuteman Project is a group dedicated to restricting immigration to the United States and are most well known for their citizen observation patrols along the US-Mexico border. (AP Photo/Seth Wenig)


1 posted on 07/26/2006 5:51:20 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

Pro-immigration protesters out number members of the Minuteman Project and New Yorkers for Immigration Control and Enforcement during a rally at ground zero Wednesday, July 26, 2006, in New York. The Minuteman Project is a group dedicated to restricting immigration to the United States and are most well known for their citizen observation patrols along the US-Mexico border. (AP Photo/Seth Wenig)


2 posted on 07/26/2006 5:53:29 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......Help the "Pendleton 8' and families -- http://www.freerepublic.com/~normsrevenge/)
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To: NormsRevenge
Yesterday in Atlanta..

U.S. Secretary of Commerce Carlos Guiterrez, left, speaks as Chick-fil-A founder Truett Cathy listens during a meeting with Georgia business leaders to discuss immigration reform, Tuesday, July 25, 2006, in Atlanta. Over the last few weeks, Gutierrez has pushed for a temporary worker program and a path to legalization for the millions of illegal immigrants who live in the U.S. (AP Photo/John Amis)

3 posted on 07/26/2006 5:55:24 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......Help the "Pendleton 8' and families -- http://www.freerepublic.com/~normsrevenge/)
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To: NormsRevenge
"I'm really appalled that (the Minuteman Project) would use 9/11 to publicize a plan (to secure U.S. borders) which is fundamentally so unconstitutional and un-American," he said. "We are all immigrants. Immigrant labor built America."

Another member of the American Left proves once again that liberals have no knowledge whatsoever of the US Constitution, US history, and what it means to be an American.
4 posted on 07/26/2006 5:57:07 PM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? YOU HAVE NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT. Actually, you lack even a legitimate excuse.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Isn't the second line of that story an outright lie based on the rest of the drivel?


5 posted on 07/26/2006 5:57:34 PM PDT by lumber1 (It is not what you do now, but what they will do later with what you've "done now" that matters.)
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To: NormsRevenge
So it's racist to want to secure a nation's borders?

Funny I never saw the left calling the Soviet Unino racist all those years. But then, they were only persecuting Jews.

6 posted on 07/26/2006 6:05:31 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (http://www.savethesoldiers.com/)
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To: lumber1

Since the imigrant rights people broke through police lines I would guess that if there was any scuffeling it was the Minutemen trying to defend themsleves.

You need an interpreter to read a news story!


7 posted on 07/26/2006 6:10:26 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: Darkwolf377; All

Segment on today's activity in NYC coming up next on Fox and H&C.


8 posted on 07/26/2006 6:10:37 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......Help the "Pendleton 8' and families -- http://www.freerepublic.com/~normsrevenge/)
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To: NormsRevenge
Immigration activists clashed at the site of the World Trade Center on Wednesday when an anti-illegal immigration group called for secure borders to avoid a repeat of the September 11 attacks and counterprotesters yelled "racists go home."

Did the activists yell back "we are home, this is our country."
9 posted on 07/26/2006 6:13:42 PM PDT by Vision ("...cause those liberal freaks go too farrrrrr")
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To: NormsRevenge
""I'm really appalled that (the Minuteman Project) would use 9/11 to publicize a plan (to secure U.S. borders) which is fundamentally so unconstitutional and un-American,"

Huh?
Securing our borders is unconstitutional and un-American?
What is this loony left moonbat psychopath smoking?
10 posted on 07/26/2006 6:25:48 PM PDT by Jameison
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To: lumber1

That jumped right out at after I read the subsequent two sentences. Ridiculous.


11 posted on 07/26/2006 6:31:38 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead (Doing the jobs Americans won't do? Guess you haven't seen "Dirty Jobs")
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To: gubamyster

ping


12 posted on 07/26/2006 6:31:57 PM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: NormsRevenge

It is a shame that this was held during a weekday. The other side can easily get off work. We don't have that luxury.


13 posted on 07/26/2006 6:41:26 PM PDT by rmlew (I'm a Goldwater Republican... Don Goldwater 2006!)
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Corsi and Gilchrist up now,,
Alan Colmes doing his usual hatchet job on past writings and apologized writings by Corsi.

Hey Alan, You'll always be a loser, no matter what the national language is or should be. PUTZ!


15 posted on 07/26/2006 6:55:28 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......Help the "Pendleton 8' and families -- http://www.freerepublic.com/~normsrevenge/)
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To: NormsRevenge

Wow, a whole 2 minutes for the Minutemen in NYC at Ground Zero. Thanks Fox. (Now dump Colmes and let Michelle Malkin have his "job")


16 posted on 07/26/2006 6:57:04 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......Help the "Pendleton 8' and families -- http://www.freerepublic.com/~normsrevenge/)
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To: NormsRevenge; DixieOklahoma; reuben barruchstein; theprophetyellszambolamboromo; Alusch; ...
Banks' mortgage plan opens door to homeownership for illegal immigrants
 
Gilchrist and Corsi In New York With a Manual for America  (this was moved to bloggers, did everyone see it and show up in NYC?)
 
Opening 'Minutemen' book tour today at Ground Zero in New York

17 posted on 07/26/2006 9:43:19 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


18 posted on 07/26/2006 11:09:04 PM PDT by gubamyster
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To: lumber1

>>>Isn't the second line of that story an outright lie based on the rest of the drivel?

Amazing bump for Reuters' crack team of "Reporters."

You'd think these "experienced" reporters at Reuters could get their own slanted article at least consistent. But they couldn't -- because then they couldn't lie. The inconsistency sets up the lie and the slanted title and lead.

We should be thankful that they are so obvious.


19 posted on 07/26/2006 11:21:53 PM PDT by Hop A Long Cassidy
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To: gubamyster
Jim Gilchrist and Jerome Corsi, authors of "Minutemen: The Battle to Secure America's Borders," were whisked away when some immigrant rights supporters broke through a police barrier and scuffled with Minutemen supporters.

Immigrant rights supporters! THEY ARE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT RIGHTS SUPPORTERS. Legal immigrants have rights.

20 posted on 07/26/2006 11:28:42 PM PDT by Razz Barry
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To: NormsRevenge
There they go with that stupid buzz word, "We are all immigrants". No we are not all immigrants, Americans stopped being immigrants by about the third generation from the American Revolution at least.

There is a people here, they are native Americans, they fought, bled, and died and built a nation that other's just can't seem to stay out while displaying nothing but contempt for the native American culture that is already here.

And worse yet, the government that is suppose to represent these native Americans will inconvenience, insult, and offend 250,000,000 native Americans so as not to offend one stranger, with no good intentions toward this nation, who claims his feelings have been hurt.
21 posted on 07/27/2006 5:13:48 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: Hop A Long Cassidy; lumber1; Texas_Jarhead

"We should be thankful that they are so obvious."

John 8:44 "For you are the children of your father the Devil, and you love to do the evil things he does. He was a murderer from the beginning and has always hated the truth. There is no truth in him. When he lies, it is consistent with his character; for he is a liar and the father of lies."


22 posted on 07/27/2006 6:06:27 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Liberals-beyond your expectations!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Reuters lied.

http://www.phxnews.com/fullstory.php?article=38505


23 posted on 07/27/2006 6:54:07 AM PDT by Tarantulas ( Illegal immigration - the trojan horse that's treated like a sacred cow)
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To: NormsRevenge
Nice hit piece. Check out the logical inconsistency between:

Members of the Minuteman Project, which patrols the U.S.-Mexican border for illegal immigrants, pushed and shoved members of an immigrant rights group that showed up at the event.

...and... Jim Gilchrist and Jerome Corsi, authors of "Minutemen: The Battle to Secure America's Borders," were whisked away when some immigrant rights supporters broke through a police barrier and scuffled with Minutemen supporters.

I hate the press.

24 posted on 07/27/2006 7:29:34 AM PDT by detsaoT (Proudly not "dumb as a journalist.")
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To: NormsRevenge
while the House bill that would criminalize illegal presence.

That could've used a little editing...

25 posted on 07/27/2006 9:49:41 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Going partly violently to the thing 24-7!)
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To: NormsRevenge
Members of the Minuteman Project, which patrols the U.S.-Mexican border for illegal immigrants, pushed and shoved members of an immigrant rights group that showed up at the event.

Bet ya this is a pant-load. Wanna bet the immigrantistas started it?

26 posted on 07/27/2006 9:50:45 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Going partly violently to the thing 24-7!)
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To: Tarantulas

Why am I not surprised?


27 posted on 07/27/2006 9:54:01 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Going partly violently to the thing 24-7!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Here's the link for a follow-up radio interview:

http://www.phxnews.com/fullstory.php?article=38505


28 posted on 07/27/2006 10:22:22 AM PDT by Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
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To: Tarantulas

Sorry. Didn't see that you had post the link already...


29 posted on 07/27/2006 10:29:28 AM PDT by Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
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To: Darkwolf377

Review the history and note which way the people were running. That had something to do with it too.


30 posted on 07/27/2006 10:29:32 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: NormsRevenge; Coleus; rmlew

Oh how I wish I had been there. The notice was too short for me, and too short to get anything together properly. Also the FR thread was removed by s o m e o n e . . .


31 posted on 07/27/2006 10:32:06 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: NormsRevenge
"I'm really appalled that (the Minuteman Project) would use 9/11 to publicize a plan (to secure U.S. borders) which is fundamentally so unconstitutional and un-American," he said. "We are all immigrants. Immigrant labor built America."

I notice Reuters is using the tired old MSM trick of using a quote to close the story with their own opinion. That is editorializing the news just as much as if they said it themselves--even moreso, because the unwary are roped in. A pox on them all.

32 posted on 07/27/2006 10:35:55 AM PDT by firebrand
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"I'm really appalled that (the Minuteman Project) would use 9/11 to publicize a plan (to secure U.S. borders) which is fundamentally so unconstitutional and un-American," he said. "We are all immigrants. Immigrant labor built America."

"Plus I've never paid income taxes, repeatedly rape and steal from my heighbors, and I can hardly wait to be forced to learn to speak Spanish," gushed Stephen Durham, a terrorist supporter.

33 posted on 07/27/2006 10:36:43 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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Here's audio of Gilchrist saying that Reuters lied about their reporting.

Dam that Bias Media!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1673293/posts


34 posted on 07/27/2006 11:48:39 AM PDT by MickeysHangover
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To: Tarantulas
Uh-huh.

35 posted on 07/27/2006 11:54:13 AM PDT by lumber1 (It is not what you do now, but what they will do later with what you've "done now" that matters.)
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To: MickeysHangover

...looks like the thread was pulled.


36 posted on 07/27/2006 11:54:59 AM PDT by lumber1 (It is not what you do now, but what they will do later with what you've "done now" that matters.)
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To: NormsRevenge

I'd love to see better border control... but it seems kinda silly to use 9/11 as a backdrop for this. 9/11 didn't happen because of illegal immigration. All of the terrorists entered the U.S. legally.


37 posted on 07/27/2006 12:09:10 PM PDT by Ramius (Buy blades for war fighters: freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net --> 1400 knives and counting!)
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NYC is a media hub, if not there , where?


38 posted on 07/27/2006 12:19:57 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......Help the "Pendleton 8' and families -- http://www.freerepublic.com/~normsrevenge/)
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To: NormsRevenge

Nothing wrong with NYC, it is the connection they're making to the WTC attack that I think is a bit of a stretch.

But on the whole, I think the Minutemen have done us a service and have brought lots of good attention to the borders issue. I wasn't too keen on them at first. I figured they were too triggerhappy to do anything other than create bad press. But... that wasn't the case. They presented themselves well and kept the dialog on track.


39 posted on 07/27/2006 12:38:27 PM PDT by Ramius (Buy blades for war fighters: freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net --> 1400 knives and counting!)
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the [Minutemen] . . . pushed and shoved members of an immigrant rights group . . . some immigrant rights supporters broke through a police barrier

Dang, Must have pushed them pretty hard, right through the police line -- Then the Minutemen musta run around to the other side of the police line and "scuffled" with the immigrant rights folks.

Hey! That's what the Reuters' employee typed in.

Also, what have the 9/11 hijackers got to do with ILLEGAL immigration?

A big part of the ILLEGAL immigrant problem is document fraud. I did not search for facts vis-a-vis the 19 hijackers' method of entry but I do remember that among the 19 there were 63 driver licenses.

40 posted on 07/27/2006 8:47:30 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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