Skip to comments.WTC Tower collapses while man on phone to 911 operator
Posted on 07/27/2006 8:39:00 AM PDT by STFrancis
This is the most amazing video I have seen and I am now po'ed to no end. Brings home why we are in the middle east right now.
It's a phone call of Kevin Cosgrove to a 9/11 operator while in Tower 2 of the World Trade Center. The call is set to video and is chilling.
I'm one of em, I said I didn't like your attitude, I just happen to agree with some of what you are saying. You advocate the extermination of Muslims. Thats a tall order. In fact, rather stupid. As I have posted, although there are a ton of "bad" muslims, there are also a ton of "not bad" muslims. Let me ask you, do you currently know, or have known, ANY muslims? I have, and of those (about 50), I'd say only one needs killin. (Some were American muslims, some were foreign, back in my college days). In particular, the ones in back in college were absolutely "normal" guys, who were just like the rest of us. They were Muslims in name only. And many of them fell in love with America and decided to stay here.
I am not being some PC idiot either, I say, if you celebrated the towers collapsing on 9/11, you definately need killin. Boiled in pig fat.
You talking to the "head choppers" or Freepers?
Just to satisfy my own curiosity, I bought a Koran and read some of it. I'm a Christian, and most here would consider me a fanatic, extremist, Christian. If they believe the Koran, they will kill you, your wife, your children and your dog, and use the same knife to cut the evening meal and never flinch. They are worshiping a god of lies and death. What does my Bible say their god is? Why do you think they lie with every breath? They have no honor, even at the highest level. What if the pope stood on his little balcony every day and said lies and told his followers to kill 80% of the population of earth? Don't you think someone would say something? We aren't allowed to tell the truth about murderers?
90% of the world watched as the Jewish hostages were taken and solderers were killed, ON ISRAELI LAND, and most of the world is telling the Jews to "tone it down"?
I say Viet Nam was a good example of "limited war". Never again! I think Patton said it best," Use their guts to grease their track of your tanks." My father bombed Germany in WWII from a B-24. They felt he was a hero and gave him the DFC with 4 oak leaf clusters. He knew when he let the bombs go, or let loose with his .50 cals, he was hitting schools, hospitals, civilians, you name it. He never lost sleep over that. He did lose sleep over his buddies losing their heads and getting pitch forked by "children" when they bailed out. For him, their was no moral question about killing all the Germans he was able to.
The sooner we realize these muslims follow satan, the more inocent lives will be saved. Toning down doesn't work when they are cutting your friends and families throat. We are either at war, or we are not. There is no in between.
I believe I have a better grasp on the issue than you.
Thanks for playing.
"You both miss the point.
What are we preserving if we are just as hate filled?
And why should I want to stand beside you in any fight?"
What we are preserving is our lives, the lives of our children, and the very concept of civilization. If it takes a little hate to do it, then that is what will need to happen.
I'm sure many more comments will follow mine, but most of the comments I've read ("I'm speechless") leaves me speechless too. Add to that the speculation of what type a man KC was, and comments by that Antisheehan poster (who's prolly gonna get banned, btw) and all the other replies just almost make me wanna cry too.
Can't wait till I'm home and also able to be in for a shock.
No, just the one! The rest are normal folks. Some of them are a$$holes, but then, so what group doesn't have its a$$holes? Some freepers would probably qualify.
But I digress, I can agree that we oughta kill all the Islamists, but the hyperbole you offer is A) impractical, B) counterproductive, and C) simply immoral.
If the Islamic Mullahs got their hands on her would they would bury her in the sand up to her neck and have a large crowd of people throw large boulders at her head. Can you deny that they would? Would she not be considered an apostate by Islam?
Horror of the greatest magnitude occurred that day. The unspeakable images and the loss of our loved ones will never be forgotten.
I deeply desire the most horrible death to the evil ones, their enablers and supporters that brought death to America's door that day; the eleventh of September, 2001.
If I were in the 105th floor of a burning building after a major explosion happened in the lower floors, I'd either be making my way to the roof in hopes of a helicopter rescue or saying prayers for God to take my spirit and comfort my family knowing I had little time left to live.
Terrorism aside, when you work that high up, you have few options in a major fire.
This just makes my heart feel like it will break. My daughter was in the first tower to be hit. She was on the 38th floor. As she was in the stairwell coming down the steps, the firemen were going up. This memory still haunts her. I am so blessed that she made it out.
She was elected "Woman of the Year" in Tunisia,
she's the number one singing artist in the Middle East and her concerts are sold out from Egypt to Lebanon.
Yeah, the fundy wackaloons would kill her, but most of the folks think she's just plain wonderful.
Un-farking-believable that you could post this after viewing that video. What a simpleton you are.
What we are preserving is our lives. My grandparents hated the Nazis & Japs too. Good thing, becaused it helped propel us to beat the bastards.
Any chance of a transcript for those of us behind a firewall?
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Much better. Thank you.
I realize that we've sorta high-jacked this thread. I'm out. I see where you are coming from, I just disagree. Peace.
ping for later
There is... but it really looses it's power only reading it...
Wait and watch at home...
IIRC, there was a survey, that showed that about 10% of Muslims worldwide that agreed with Osama. Heck, thats 100 million targets right there..
It's hard to know. I talked to a Christian Iranian co-worker who left Iran after the Shah fell, and he told me that "yeah, we used to get along fine with the Muslims." "But what percentage would you characterize as 'fundamentalist'?" "Oh, about 60%." I couldn't figure that one out.
The Lebanese Christian I know, who travels back and forth frequently, said that they used to get along fine with the Mohammedans.
So what to think? I suspect that when attacked or under pressure as a group, the bulk of the wishy-washy Mohammedans will come down on the side of fundamentalism.
Mohammedans are notoriously difficult to evangelize. One of the few hopes I have for their conversion is the gradual weakening of theocratic controls by introducing democratic procedures, as we are doing in Iraq.
Yes. But their culture was totally re-wired by us. And enough of their supporters - even those not actively taking up arms, but those supporting the politics of Nazi Germany & Imperial Japan - were killed.
I believe, as ugly as it may have been, that the firebombing of Japanese and German cities is what lead to us being able to have peaceful relations with them now. It wasn't pleasant, but it won the war for the long term.
There is so much from 9/11 that the media has not shown the American people. It should be on TV all the time.
bump for later, thanks!
ping for later viewing when I have a soft punching bag nearby. Sounds like I'll need it!
bttt for later
What you say is most likely correct. He could see the blinding and choking smoke and feel the heat. And no rescuers in sight. He probably knew from the conversation with the operator that it wasn't going to happen. Calm and collected might not have been accurate, but I'll bet that most peoples language would be much stronger in that situation.
Thank God she made it out ok. God rest the souls of those firemen who died trying to save all those people.
Bump for later viewing.
The way I see it. He was in a smoke filled room 105 stories up. There's no way to know if fire is suddenly going to burst into the room and there is no way out. He's scared. I give him a pass on sniping at the 911 lady. I would too. Probably worse, I can curse like a sailor.
I had to get up and walk around for a bit after listening to that. It brings it all back to the surface. Everything I felt that day. The disbelief, anger, worry.
I for one have never forgotten who did this too us. I wish the rest of America had more depth of memory.
Sent the link to everyone on my e-mail list.
circler firing squad should have read circular.
that is incredibly sad - chilling - truly chilling
Everyone should be forced to watch this.....
bttt post #275
Like I said, you're a REAL winner.
More like loser, but what the hell.
You've probably been accused of it before, and you're just the scum at the bottom of the FR drain.
Here is another one that sends chill down your spine...
He was on the phone to an offfice in London at the time of impact.
Later in the day, London notified the family about the call.
He was talking to them, they heard a scream and then the phone went dead.
They still have not found/identified any remains for them to bury.