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Hezbollah was using UN post as 'shield'
CanWest News Service, The Ottawa Citizen ^ | July 27, 2006 | Joel Kom, Steven Edwards

Posted on 07/27/2006 10:40:10 AM PDT by West Coast Conservative

The words of a Canadian United Nations observer written just days before he was killed in an Israeli bombing of a UN post in Lebanon are evidence Hezbollah was using the post as a "shield" to fire rockets into Israel, says a former UN commander in Bosnia.

Those words, written in an e-mail dated just nine days ago, offer a possible explanation as to why the post -- which according to UN officials was clearly marked and known to Israeli forces -- was hit by Israel on Tuesday night, said retired Maj.-Gen. Lewis MacKenzie yesterday.

The strike hit the UN observation post in the southern Lebanese village of El Khiam, killing Canadian Maj. Paeta Hess-von Kruedener and three others serving as unarmed UN military observers in the area.

Just last week, Maj. Hess-von Kruedener wrote an e-mail about his experiences after nine months in the area, words Maj.-Gen. MacKenzie said are an obvious allusion to Hezbollah tactics.

"What I can tell you is this," he wrote in an e-mail to CTV dated July 18. "We have on a daily basis had numerous occasions where our position has come under direct or indirect fire from both (Israeli) artillery and aerial bombing.

"The closest artillery has landed within 2 meters (sic) of our position and the closest 1000 lb aerial bomb has landed 100 meters (sic) from our patrol base. This has not been deliberate targeting, but rather due to tactical necessity."

Those words, particularly the last sentence, are not-so-veiled language indicating Israeli strikes were aimed at Hezbollah targets near the post, said Maj.-Gen. MacKenzie.

"What that means is, in plain English, 'We've got Hezbollah fighters running around in our positions, taking our positions here and then using us for shields and then engaging the (Israeli Defence Forces)," he said.

That would mean Hezbollah was purposely setting up near the UN post, he added. It's a tactic Maj.-Gen. MacKenzie, who was the first UN commander in Sarajevo during the Bosnia civil war, said he's seen in past international missions: Aside from UN posts, fighters would set up near hospitals, mosques and orphanages.

A Canadian Forces infantry officer with the Edmonton-based Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry and the only Canadian serving as a UN military observer in Lebanon, Maj. Hess-von Kruedener was no stranger to fighting nearby.

The UN post, he wrote in the e-mail, afforded a view of the "Hezbollah static positions in and around our patrol Base."

"It appears that the lion's share of fighting between the IDF and Hezbollah has taken place in our area," he wrote, noting later it was too dangerous to venture out on patrols.

The e-mail appears to contradict the UN's claim there had been no Hezbollah activity in the vicinity of the strike.

The question of Hezbollah's infiltration of the area is significant because UN Secretary General Kofi Annan, speaking Tuesday just hours after the bombing, accused the Israelis of the "apparently deliberate targeting" of the base near Khiam in southern Lebanon.

A senior UN official, asked about the information contained in Maj. Hess-von Kruedener's e-mail concerning Hezbollah presence in the vicinity of the Khiam base, denied the world body had been caught in a contradiction.

"At the time, there had been no Hezbollah activity reported in the area," he said. "So it was quite clear they were not going after other targets; that, for whatever reason, our position was being fired upon.

"Whether or not they thought they were going after something else, we don't know. The fact was, we told them where we were. They knew where we were. The position was clearly marked, and they pounded the hell out of us."

Even if Hezbollah was not firing rockets at the time of the bombing, Maj. Hess-von Kruedener's e-mail indicates they were using a terrorist tactic of purposely drawing out enemy forces near a neutral site, said retired Capt. Peter Forsberg, who did two UN tours between 1993 and 1995 during the Bosnian war.

The UN's limited mandate, meaning that its observers are unarmed and have few options, put the observers in a poor position, he said.

If indeed Israel was attempting to hit Hezbollah fighters in the area, it hasn't yet used the excuse to explain its actions because it wouldn't make it any less guilty in the world's eyes, Capt. Forsberg said.


TOPICS: Canada; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: cowards; hezbollah; hizbollah; islam; islamofacism; lebanon; muhammadsminions; muslim; un
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1 posted on 07/27/2006 10:40:11 AM PDT by West Coast Conservative
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To: West Coast Conservative

Nothing new here, the UN is notorious for getting innocents massacred and denying their own complicity.


2 posted on 07/27/2006 10:41:15 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......Help the "Pendleton 8' and families -- http://www.freerepublic.com/~normsrevenge/)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Surprise (NOT)


3 posted on 07/27/2006 10:42:12 AM PDT by SF Republican
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To: West Coast Conservative
IOW, the dead observers -- being ordered to remain in-place -- were basically hung out to dry by the UN leadership.

It's no wonder that Kofi is once again seeking to divert attention from the UN's role in this.

The Canadians, however, seem unwilling to accept it. Good for them.

4 posted on 07/27/2006 10:43:40 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: West Coast Conservative

As far as I'm concerned the UN was using it as a shield too. Both Hezbollah and the UN were in clear violation of Geneva convention rules.


5 posted on 07/27/2006 10:45:08 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Everybody's entitled to my opinion.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Why is this not a surprise. The UN has set itself up as the cat's-paw to take up the brunt as sacrifices, if that helps remove Israel from the world map altogether. The individual soldiers assigned to the post, perhaps, were not at all in favor of acting as human shields for Islam forces, but the UN is willing to use them for that purpose.


6 posted on 07/27/2006 10:45:34 AM PDT by alloysteel (My spelling is Wobbly. It's good spelling, but it Wobbles, and the letters get in the wrong places.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Impossible - Hezbollah is a peaceful regime with a great human rights record. This story is obviously a lie.


7 posted on 07/27/2006 10:47:03 AM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President! www.dndorks.com)
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To: West Coast Conservative

ping


8 posted on 07/27/2006 10:47:09 AM PDT by ocr1
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To: West Coast Conservative
...I'd like to hear Koffi's analysis of the fact that the Hezzie's use U.N. plus civilians etc as shields....if fire is coming from near a U.N. post...then "bombs away".. come Koffi....what of it?......I'm listening.....
9 posted on 07/27/2006 10:47:18 AM PDT by NorCalRepub
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To: West Coast Conservative

Same way they use the U.N. in general.


10 posted on 07/27/2006 10:47:19 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: r9etb

One more sordid episode in the squalid history of UN so-called "peacekeeping" operations -- which are usually a joke at best and a real aid to the bad guys at worst. Kofi Annan made his career in mis-handling "peacekeeping" operations and then got promoted all the way to the top in a true instance of the Peter Principle in action.


11 posted on 07/27/2006 10:47:37 AM PDT by Enchante (Democrats: Trust Nancy Pelosi to Win the War on Terror!! (gag))
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To: alloysteel
Convention IV

Part III. Status and Treatment of Protected Persons

Section I. Provisions common to the territories of the parties to the conflict and to occupied territories.

Art. 28. The presence of a protected person may not be used to render certain points or areas immune from military operations.

12 posted on 07/27/2006 10:48:26 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Everybody's entitled to my opinion.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Big surprise.


13 posted on 07/27/2006 10:48:34 AM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? YOU HAVE NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT. Actually, you lack even a legitimate excuse.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

shocked, SHOCKED


14 posted on 07/27/2006 10:49:18 AM PDT by npg
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To: West Coast Conservative

Israel needs to go public with this - there is no need to sustain these PR hits.


15 posted on 07/27/2006 10:49:27 AM PDT by oceanview
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To: r9etb
IOW, the dead observers -- being ordered to remain in-place -- were basically hung out to dry by the UN leadership.
It's no wonder that Kofi is once again seeking to divert attention from the UN's role in this.

You are correct.

Let's all keep in mind that this was an un-armed observation post. The UN mandate was for the Lebonese to patrol the Border. The UN wasn't needed and they certainly should have been pulled after the Hizzies started a war.

16 posted on 07/27/2006 10:53:33 AM PDT by KC Burke
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To: West Coast Conservative
Someone pointed this out yesterday: http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/

If you're letting Hezbollah share your telephones,your kitchens, use your ambulances to transport arms and let them fly their flag RIGHT NEXT TO YOURS, are you really surprised that SOMETHING was eventually going to happen? Or were you just creating a situation where you actually were hoping something would happen?

17 posted on 07/27/2006 10:53:48 AM PDT by Range Rover (The Walrus was Paul Harvey)
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To: Enchante
Kofi Annan made his career in mis-handling "peacekeeping" operations and then got promoted all the way to the top in a true instance of the Peter Principle in action.

In his case, I think the "dickhead principle" may be a more appropriate choice of words....

18 posted on 07/27/2006 10:53:49 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: NormsRevenge

I heard something the other night that surprised me. Forget which news service. Said that since 1979, at least 250 "UN soldiers" had been killed patrolling that region. I didn't know that there were UN soldiers. And I would think that if over 200 UN anything there had been killed, we would have heard it plainly. I heard this right, but either I misinterpreted it or it was reported incorrectly.


19 posted on 07/27/2006 10:54:14 AM PDT by twigs
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To: West Coast Conservative
The UN's limited mandate, meaning that its observers are unarmed and have few options, put the observers in a poor position, he said.

The only reason I can see that the UN would keep the OP manned was to give Hezballah a secure firing position. Keeping unarmed troops in a hot war zone is murder. The UN knew that the OP was under fire and being used by Hezballah.

20 posted on 07/27/2006 10:56:42 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (999-TNS)
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To: West Coast Conservative

The UN powers, including Anan, who made the decisions to keep this team of UN observers at that post, have blood on their hands. Perhaps now, those who at first showed a total lack of compassion nor regret for those observers/soldiers who were killed, will realize the error of their thinking and responses. Those soldiers followed orders, they did not give those orders.


21 posted on 07/27/2006 10:57:42 AM PDT by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

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22 posted on 07/27/2006 10:58:38 AM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: West Coast Conservative
I am having trouble understanding this. The UN couldn't wait to hot-foot it out of Baghdad because they said it got "too dangerous", but won't pull observers from "an obvious war zone."

It must be they are using these observers as a different kind of human shield. US-led coalition (and by extension, the eeeeevil George Bush) in charge? "Run away! Too dangerous!!" Hezzies in charge? "Aw, we're as safe as a baby in its mother's arms."

23 posted on 07/27/2006 10:59:01 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance by fleeing the scene of an accident)
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To: West Coast Conservative

bump for publicity


24 posted on 07/27/2006 10:59:32 AM PDT by VOA
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To: TC Rider

Blue Helmet = Red Shirt?


25 posted on 07/27/2006 11:01:11 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance by fleeing the scene of an accident)
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To: r9etb
IOW, the dead observers -- being ordered to remain in-place -- were basically hung out to dry by the UN leadership.

One way of looking at it is stupid negligence by the UN.

Another way- and maybe the only way when one pauses to consider why they were not pulled out- it that higher ups in the UN were deliberately awarding the benefit to Hezbolla of fighting from behind UN cover.

26 posted on 07/27/2006 11:05:02 AM PDT by Sabramerican (Hold the Rice, Serve Bolton.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Kofi Annan probably encouraged Hezbollah to set up shop nearby and he probably has the money sitting in a Swiss bank account to prove it.


27 posted on 07/27/2006 11:06:26 AM PDT by D-Chivas
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To: West Coast Conservative

Same old evil from the same old evil people.


28 posted on 07/27/2006 11:06:42 AM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: Salem; SJackson; Alouette

Canadian UN observer wrote Hezbollah using UN post as cover to lob rockers into Israel - ping!


29 posted on 07/27/2006 11:07:48 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (The Arab League jihad continues on like a fart in an elevator - FR American in Israel)
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To: Cyber Liberty
Another UN Entity in the region - The United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) - Was sent into Gaza and the West Bank as a neutral humanitarian entity. Some of the "Humanitarian" works done by them under the leadership of Peter Hansen , Commissioner-General of that UN agency:

● May 2004: Armed Palestinians are filmed using UNRWA ambulances to transport terrorists and, possibly, remains of fallen Israeli soldiers in Gaza.

● Sept. 2003: After the Israeli military court convicts three UNRWA employees for terrorist activities (such as throwing firebombs at a public bus), Israel detains at least 16 other UNRWA staff members for various security-related matters.

● Dec. 2002: A Shin Bet report indicates that numerous UNRWA facilities in the West Bank and Gaza had been used by Palestinian terrorists as meeting grounds and for weapons storage.

● Sept. 2002: Nahd Attala, a senior official of UNRWA in Gaza, reveals that in June-July 2002, he used his UNRWA car for the transportation of armed members of Fatah who were on their way to carry out a missile attack against Jewish settlements. In addition, Nahd admits he used an UNRWA car to transport a 12 kg explosive charge for his brother-in-law, a Fatah member.

● August 2002: Nidal Nazzal, a Hamas member and ambulance driver employed by UNRWA, confesses to transporting weapons and explosives in an UNRWA ambulance, and that he had taken advantage of the freedom of movement he enjoyed to transmit messages among Hamas members in various Palestinian towns.

● February 2002: Alaa Muhammad Ali Hassan, a Tanzim member, confesses during interrogation that he had carried out a sniper shooting from the school run by UNRWA in the al-Ayn refugee camp near Nablus. He also told his interrogators that bombs intended for terrorist attacks were being manufactured inside the UNRWA school's facilities.

30 posted on 07/27/2006 11:09:19 AM PDT by Range Rover (The Walrus was Paul Harvey)
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To: Cyber Liberty
Blue Helmet = Red Shirt?

Exactly! ding ding ding, we have a winner.

Blue helmet resources are used and tossed away like so much soiled tissue by the egocrats on East 32nd.

31 posted on 07/27/2006 11:09:43 AM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: Sabramerican
"Another way- and maybe the only way when one pauses to consider why they were not pulled out- it that higher ups in the UN were deliberately awarding the benefit to Hezbolla of fighting from behind UN cover."

BINGO!! UN toad-bureaucrats would rather provide the Hezi-Nazis with such protection than safeguard their own people who are helpless sitting ducks as useless "observers" in the midst of a hot zone, with terrorists firing from close by in order to tempt Israel into counter-strikes which might hit the UN posts. Why didn't the UN withdraw its posts immediately? Because keeping them there offers some protection to Hezbollah and a series of obstacles for Israel.

p.s. UN dipsticks may also have considered the crisis they would have provoked with Hezbollah if the UN observers tried to withdraw - Hezbollah might well have tried to keep them there as hostages and human shields. That would have been very inconvenient to the UN as it would reveal to the world yet again that their buddies in Hezbollah are sadistic thugs and terrorists.
32 posted on 07/27/2006 11:11:24 AM PDT by Enchante (Democrats: Trust Nancy Pelosi to Win the War on Terror!! (gag))
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To: Victoria Delsoul

Some info on the UN post!


33 posted on 07/27/2006 11:12:12 AM PDT by HitmanLV (All hail, King Booker! All hail. King Booker! New WWE Champion!!)
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To: Enchante

Yes, but he speaks very softly.


34 posted on 07/27/2006 11:14:36 AM PDT by ichabod1 (I have to take a shower.)
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To: Range Rover

Or are you in a situation in which the Hezbos are the UN and the UN is the Hezbos?


35 posted on 07/27/2006 11:15:40 AM PDT by ichabod1 (I have to take a shower.)
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36 posted on 07/27/2006 11:17:16 AM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do!)
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To: West Coast Conservative

So can we say that the hezzies have also taken the UN hostage as well? (along with the soldier captives and the millions in bomb shelters.)


37 posted on 07/27/2006 11:20:29 AM PDT by epluribus_2
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To: West Coast Conservative

The truth is that Hezbollah is the most dangerous terrorist group in the world. It has about 25,000 armed members and as we saw in the pro-Syrian march in Beirut, it can muster a million in the streets.Hezbollah does have a dozen members in the Lebanese parliament, which shows how smart Hezbollah is; it is trying to go both way by having a political side and a standing terrorist apparatus.Hezbollah has been operating inside the United States. Since the 1980s, the FBI has deported hundreds of members and had dozens of cases. Mostly, in these years, the Hezbollah cells were busted for criminal activity such as insurance fraud, credit-card fraud, counterfeiting clothes such as Levi jeans, phony marriages which they arranged to get green cards, and cigarette smuggling. Though these are sort of under-the-radar crimes, they raised millions of dollars which were sent to Hezbollah coffers in Beirut and in some cases used to buy highly sophisticated "dual-use" equipment in Canada such as very sophisticated computers, cell phones hooked up electronically to be capable of remotely controlled explosions, and intelligence drones.

Kofi Annan has been encouraging people to accept Hezbollah.I think the crook is on their payroll..And will do and say anything for a buck..


38 posted on 07/27/2006 11:23:06 AM PDT by Beth528
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To: West Coast Conservative

How come Coffi Anus didn't mention this? /s


39 posted on 07/27/2006 11:23:07 AM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: West Coast Conservative
fighters would set up near hospitals, mosques and orphanages.

The devil is alive and well.

40 posted on 07/27/2006 11:24:45 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: TC Rider

I like your comparison of the UN soldier to a Star Trek red shirt. Those guys were always dead meat on a stick.


41 posted on 07/27/2006 11:27:59 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: TC Rider

GREAT post.


42 posted on 07/27/2006 11:30:52 AM PDT by gruffwolf
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To: West Coast Conservative
A senior UN official ... said ... "At the time, there had been no Hezbollah activity reported in the area ..."

I would not doubt the UN has standing orders instructing observers not to file reports on Hezollah activity. This just to allow this type of asinine statement. The reporter should ask ... "Have the UN observers ever reported on Hezbollah activity?"
43 posted on 07/27/2006 11:42:01 AM PDT by One_who_hopes_to_know
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To: Beth528

http://volokh.com/archives/archive_2006_07_16-2006_07_22.shtml#1153523571

An interesting and enlightening read about a 10/2000 incident involving Hezbollah and UNIFIL. Explains a whole bunch 'O stuff....


44 posted on 07/27/2006 11:42:20 AM PDT by Range Rover (The Walrus was Paul Harvey)
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To: Sabramerican

It is the higher ups in the UN who need to be called on the very public carpet. i.e. hearings demanded by the countries of the soldiers involved. I want to know WHY their commander did not have them removed from the scene immediatly after hostilities broke out. After all, they were unarmed in a hot war zone. Some commander needs to be put on trial.


45 posted on 07/27/2006 11:42:55 AM PDT by McGavin999 (God watch over the young lions of Israel!)
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To: West Coast Conservative
Nothing new here. Time to move on. UN ambulances have been filmed moving Hamas terrorists in Gaza. Terrorists use UN flags to cover their movements and positions all the time. Tell Israel to blow those 'neutral observers' off the map.
46 posted on 07/27/2006 11:55:16 AM PDT by ex-Texan (Mathew 7: 1 - 6)
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To: Range Rover

Thank you!I will read...


47 posted on 07/27/2006 12:07:37 PM PDT by Beth528
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To: mother22wife21

I'm SHOCKED! Shocked, I tell you.


48 posted on 07/27/2006 12:16:59 PM PDT by Famishus (I have not lost my mind; it's backed up on disc somewhere.)
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To: Range Rover

add this video to your list

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqGjz7iJTns&mode=related&search


49 posted on 07/27/2006 12:18:47 PM PDT by dervish (Bolton for Secretary of State)
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To: Convert from ECUSA

The UN aiding and abetting terrorists, nothing new.

No wonder they won't define "terrorist." It might include them.


50 posted on 07/27/2006 12:24:32 PM PDT by dervish (Bolton for Secretary of State)
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