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Diaz seeks 'dialogue' with Boy Scouts
Philadelphia Inquirer ^ | July 27, 2006 | Tina Moore

Posted on 07/27/2006 12:01:15 PM PDT by Nachum

City Solicitor Romulo L. Diaz Jr. said a recent push to force the Cradle of Liberty Boy Scouts Council to denounce the national organization's antigay policy had nothing to do with his own homosexuality.

"My own sexuality, my own sexual orientation, has never been hidden and never played into my decision," Diaz said in an interview yesterday with The Inquirer. "It has, perhaps, made me more sensitive to the issues."

Diaz said he sent another letter yesterday morning seeking a meeting with William T. Dwyer III, council chief executive officer and president. Diaz, the city's first openly gay solicitor and a former Cub Scout, said he hoped to have a "direct dialogue" with the council.

"I'm trying to figure out what their policy means. Do they intend to discriminate against openly gay Boy Scouts?" he said.

Last week, the Street administration threatened the scouts with eviction from the stately structure at 22d and Winter Streets they have occupied rent-free since 1928 unless they agreed to disavow discrimination against gays - or pay a fair-market rent.

The national organization, Boy Scouts of America, has a strict policy forbidding homosexuals from being scouts or leaders. The policy was upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court in 2000 and affirmed by the national council in 2002.

The debate over the national policy in Philadelphia began in 2003 when the local council voted to adopt a nondiscrimination policy regarding homosexuals - but then, weeks later, ousted an 18-year-old South Philadelphia scout who publicly acknowledged he was gay.

Then-City Solicitor Nelson Diaz determined that the scouts' policy of banning gays violated the city's fair-practices ordinance. That law forbids discrimination based on sexual orientation, religion, race, color or other classifications.

In 2005, the council, which serves 87,000 members in Philadelphia, Montgomery and Delaware Counties, agreed to adopt an anti-discrimination policy in compliance with the City Charter, according to a letter Romulo Diaz wrote to the council at the time. But that policy was "ambiguous," Diaz said, and did not address homosexuality directly.

Diaz said his office reached out repeatedly for clarification on whether the scouts intended to stop discriminating against gays. He said the council refused to meet.

"This is an issue that's been in play now for the tenure of three city solicitors," he said.

Larry Ceisler, a spokesman for the council, said the scouts had declined to go to a meeting at a private law firm where gay and lesbian activists would have been present.

Responding to Diaz's letter of yesterday, Ceisler said the council would meet with the city solicitor, but only in an official capacity and in a city office.

Diaz said the Street administration had made its decision to move toward eviction after a "very deliberative process."

"Frankly, from my perspective, I'm certainly supportive of it," Diaz said. "I believe it's the right thing to do from a legal and policy perspective.

"I think I looked at this from a very balanced perspective," he added.


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1 posted on 07/27/2006 12:01:16 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum
City Solicitor Romulo L. Diaz Jr. said a recent push to force the Cradle of Liberty Boy Scouts Council to denounce the national organization's antigay policy had nothing to do with his own homosexuality

BULL!

2 posted on 07/27/2006 12:03:28 PM PDT by Mo1 (Bolton- "No one has explained how you negotiate a ceasefire with terrorists")
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To: Nachum

The Colon Cowboys would love to gain access to a bunch of young teenage boys.


3 posted on 07/27/2006 12:03:36 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Peace begins in the womb.)
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To: Nachum; DirtyHarryY2K; scripter; little jeremiah; Clint N. Suhks
It's always about gaining access to other people's children with these degenerates! I wonder why?
4 posted on 07/27/2006 12:05:55 PM PDT by FormerLib ("...the past ten years in Kosovo will be replayed here in what some call Aztlan.")
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To: Nachum

Memo to Romulo: shut the heck up.


5 posted on 07/27/2006 12:06:42 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: Nachum

Yes...Come into my office, said the spider to the ant.


6 posted on 07/27/2006 12:06:58 PM PDT by Alexander Rubin (Octavius - You make my heart glad building thus, as if Rome is to be eternal.)
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To: Nachum

"private dialogue?"

Probably somewhere dark and deep in the woods where no one could hear the screams of protest.


7 posted on 07/27/2006 12:08:25 PM PDT by hotshu
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To: Nachum
Diaz, the city's first openly gay solicitor...

I think he should print that on his business cards.

"Do they intend to discriminate against openly gay Boy Scouts?" he said.

I certainly hope so, since to do otherwise would violate their established standard of forbidding homosexuality in the Scouts.

"I think I looked at this from a very balanced perspective," he added.

Of course he does. For a liberal, "Give me what I want or I'll use my government power to destroy you" is a very balanced perspective.

8 posted on 07/27/2006 12:10:02 PM PDT by American Quilter (Equal laws protecting equal rights...the best guarantee of loyalty and love of country. -- Madison)
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To: Mo1
City Solicitor Romulo L. Diaz Jr. said a recent push to force the Cradle of Liberty Boy Scouts Council to denounce the national organization's antigay policy had nothing to do with his own homosexuality

Liar Liar Pants on Fire!

Was gonna call him a maricon too. Is that permitted on FR?

9 posted on 07/27/2006 12:20:44 PM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: Rummyfan

Diaz: just another bullying faggie wielding total state power!

):^(


10 posted on 07/27/2006 12:34:33 PM PDT by elcid1970
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To: Nachum

Where are the black inner-city activists?

Why aren't they out there supporting the scounts?


11 posted on 07/27/2006 12:36:33 PM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: FormerLib
It's always about gaining access to other people's children with these degenerates! I wonder why?

Bottom line answer: Homosexuality is a naturally-repulsive, inherently distasteful (literally!), life-threatening, and is as instinctively "wrong" as bears hibernating in the summer, or geese flying north in September.

Before homosexuals began their recruiting campaign with Kinsey's lies (er, reports) in the fifties, it WAS morally wrong.

But, to get more homosexuals, to prove to themselves ! that homosexuality is "ok" and "morally straight" - homosexuals MUST seduce and recruit the innocent.

12 posted on 07/27/2006 12:38:36 PM PDT by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Nachum

"City Solicitor Romulo L. Diaz Jr. said a recent push to force the Cradle of Liberty Boy Scouts Council to denounce the national organization's antigay policy had nothing to do with his own homosexuality."

NOT AT ALL.

He just likes little boys and is trying to "help" them.


13 posted on 07/27/2006 12:46:34 PM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: ZULU

Can I ask everyone why the issues of gays and Boy Scouts keeps coming up?

The reason I ask is because the Supreme Court in 2000 in the Dale case said that the Scouts were within their constitutional rights to ban homosexuals from their organization. So if the highest court in the land has said that they are acting legally when they "discriminate" against homosexuals, how can local officials from San Diego to Berkeley to Philadelphia be saying that the Scouts "disciminate" and thus can be denied public accomodations in their cities?

Anybody know? If the Scouts legally can do what they do, how can anyone, legally speaking, take such action against the Boy Scouts?


14 posted on 07/27/2006 12:57:47 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Nachum
"My own sexuality, my own sexual orientation, has never been hidden and never played into my decision," Diaz said...

Bravo Sierra!!!

For anyone who buys that one, I have this nifty bridge for sale...

15 posted on 07/27/2006 1:13:38 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah" = Satan in disguise)
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To: Nachum

Is the entire city government of Philedelphia gay?

Gays want to be treated like anybody else and yet at the same time deny the possibility of same-sex activity in the Scouts. Go figure.

Scouts are all boys because having girls on a camping trip would be asking for trouble.

They don't allow women leaders for the same reason.


16 posted on 07/27/2006 1:31:07 PM PDT by squarebarb
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Can I ask everyone why the issues of gays and Boy Scouts keeps coming up?

Two reasons:

1. Homosexuals think "Boy Scouts" are sexually appealing:

2. It's part of that transition from "The love that dare not speak its name," to "The love that can't STFU."

17 posted on 07/27/2006 1:35:53 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: Nachum
Diaz is proving that homosexuals in power are certainly not above one of the longstanding perks of authority--going after one's real or perceived enemies. With the crime and homicide rate in Philly on pace to set a record this year, maybe the city's voters can convince Diaz and the Street administration that Philadelphia's drug dealers and murderers are anti-gay. Or perhaps that the Scouts actually help keep some young city youths out of trouble.
18 posted on 07/27/2006 1:36:50 PM PDT by clearlight
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To: Nachum

The city gave the Scouts the property but, the Scouts built the building themselves. The 18 yr. old scout went on national television trashing the Boy Scouts, then wore his uniform to several "gay pride" type events. That is when he was dismissed; for misuse of his uniform. He was doing all he could to force the BSA into some action. The BSA came to an agreement with the city in 2004 over letting gays in, now the city comes out of no where and wants to evict them. The building is the FIRST Boy Scout headquarters in the country. It also happens to be a prime real estate location. The city just wants it for it's location.
Philadelphia's homicide rate and gang related violence is reaching epidemic proportions. The mayor has asked for the State Police to reinforce the city's police dept. The Boy Scouts have some 40,000 boys and teenagers here in Philly. Typical liberalism here. Place is going to hell in a hand basket so they go after one of the organizations that is doing some positive work for society!!


19 posted on 07/27/2006 1:37:54 PM PDT by PhillyRepublican
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To: Nachum
Liberal democrats are like the Borg.

You will be assimilated.

20 posted on 07/27/2006 1:41:49 PM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Well, some charitable groups have cut them off from inclusion in their drives, and they have otherwise been discriminated against in various "legal" ways.


21 posted on 07/27/2006 2:08:09 PM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: FormerLib
It's always about gaining access to other people's children

Yes it is. They can try to couch it anyway they want, but they always want access to other people's children.

Targeting Children, Part 1: How the gay movement intends to capture the next generation

Targeting Children, Part 2: How the homosexual movement uses public schools as instruments of change

Targeting Children, Part 3: Activists encouraging experimentation

Targeting Children, Part 4: Access to children: homosexuality and molestation

22 posted on 07/27/2006 2:13:17 PM PDT by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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Bump and Homosexual Agenda ping. Freepmail DBeers or scripter to subscribe or unsubscribe.

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23 posted on 07/27/2006 2:17:07 PM PDT by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: Nachum

"My own sexuality, my own sexual orientation, has never been hidden and never played into my decision," Diaz said in an interview yesterday with The Inquirer. "It has, perhaps, made me more sensitive to the issues."

His own sexuality, of course, includes the use of children for his own sexual gratification.


24 posted on 07/27/2006 2:25:49 PM PDT by Neoliberalnot
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To: Dilbert San Diego

The answer is that the Boy Scouts cannot be precluded from banning gays from their organization (which is what the Supreme Court case was about). That doesn't mean that a city is forced to give them a below-market rent or really do business with them in any way if they feel the Scouts' policy conflicts with their "anti-discrimination" policy.

Not saying I agree with it, but that's the issue.


25 posted on 07/27/2006 2:33:24 PM PDT by republicofdavis
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To: Nachum
Diaz said he sent another letter yesterday morning seeking a meeting with William T. Dwyer III, council chief executive officer and president.

Hey sissy man, why don't you seek a dialogue with their fathers?

26 posted on 07/27/2006 2:53:04 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: Rummyfan

Boo creepy city solicitor! Hooray beer!


27 posted on 07/27/2006 2:56:54 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: Nachum

Out of curiosity, do the Boy Scouts have a policy about philandering husbands being scout leaders?


28 posted on 07/27/2006 3:16:31 PM PDT by BJClinton (What happens on Free Republic, stays on Google.)
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To: ElkGroveDan; Rummyfan


Personally, being a native of the Midwest, I kinda like the Blue Ribbon better...8^)


29 posted on 07/27/2006 6:46:31 PM PDT by rzeznikj at stout (ASCII and ye shall receive... (Computers 3:14))
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To: scripter

BTTT and a hearty thank you.


30 posted on 07/27/2006 7:30:22 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Well, you see, the Supreme Court is the highest authority in the land, when it agrees with the left, but when it does not, it is a battleground of conservative activism and deserves the same answer that Jackson gave it.

republicofdavis does have a point, perhaps, but the affair smacks of harrassment to me, especially if it is the oldest HQ in the country and built by the scouts, etc...


31 posted on 07/28/2006 9:23:37 AM PDT by Apogee (don't make a flag ammendment, issue a "do not prosecute defense of the flag" executive order)
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To: Nachum
City Solicitor Romulo L. Diaz Jr. said a recent push to force the Cradle of Liberty Boy Scouts Council to denounce the national organization's antigay policy had nothing to do with his own homosexuality.

He might be telling the truth. Lord knows there are plenty of heterosexual idiots who think private organizations should be boned by the state, so why not a homosexual?

32 posted on 07/31/2006 9:44:00 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (NewsMax gives aid and comfort to the enemy-- http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1642052/posts)
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To: Nachum

You know, since folks like Diaz think that the Boy Scouts should have to accept homosexuals, I say we find some guy who hates the First Amendment and sue to get him into the ACLU, and then find a guy who loves people of every color and creed and sue to get him into the Klan.


33 posted on 07/31/2006 9:54:28 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (NewsMax gives aid and comfort to the enemy-- http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1642052/posts)
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