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Thousands flee Indonesian volcano
Mail & Guardian ^ | 07/28/06

Posted on 07/28/2006 1:28:49 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

Thousands flee Indonesian volcano

Jakarta, Indonesia

28 July 2006 09:50

More than 3 000 villagers have fled the area around a volcano in eastern Indonesia after it started blasting out hot gas and lava, officials said on Friday.

Saut Simatupang, a senior vulcanologist, told Reuters the alert status for Mount Karangetan on Siau island was now at maximum.

"There is a hot gas cloud as far as 2,5km from the southern or south-eastern parts of the volcano. Since it [the cloud] is near to villagers' homes we have upgraded it to the top alert status," he said.

The official said there had been no casualties, but the lava flow was only 400m away from some villagers' homes.

He said that villagers had been evacuating on their own accord at night, but were returning during the day to work.

"The latest situation tends to show a decrease, with the hot gas cloud declining."

Siau lies north of Manado on Sulawesi island, which is 2 200km north-east of the capital Jakarta.

Rustam Pakaya, a senior health ministry official in Jakarta, said there were four villages threatened by the volcano.

"There are 3 400 people evacuating. But they return to their home and work in the morning," Pakaya said. - Reuters


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Technical
KEYWORDS: globalcooling; globalwarming; indonesia; lobalcooling; ringoffire; volcano

1 posted on 07/28/2006 1:28:50 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: neverdem

Ping!


2 posted on 07/28/2006 1:29:13 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Global warming in action.


3 posted on 07/28/2006 1:37:05 AM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Saut Simatupang

Sounds like a ricocheting bullet.

4 posted on 07/28/2006 1:40:10 AM PDT by JennysCool (Roll out the Canarble Wagon!)
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To: taxesareforever
No, not global warming -- it's Bush's fault.
5 posted on 07/28/2006 1:43:59 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Pictures please.


6 posted on 07/28/2006 1:47:22 AM PDT by AmericaUnite
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To: TigerLikesRooster

It seems that once a Nation wipes out it's Christian population with the Islamic Horde, it turns from the Vacation spot of the Earth to the Volcano and Tsunami Capitol.

Allah may be their God, but it seems that Allah is not really God.

Or of course, he hates them...


7 posted on 07/28/2006 1:49:48 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: taxesareforever

http://www.iceagenow.com/Ocean_Warming.htm


8 posted on 07/28/2006 2:00:15 AM PDT by beyond the sea (The truth exists even when it is ignored.)
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To: lentulusgracchus; taxesareforever

http://www.crystalinks.com/rof.html


9 posted on 07/28/2006 2:02:32 AM PDT by beyond the sea (The truth exists even when it is ignored.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Allah seems quite displeased with highest Muslim populated nation in the world
10 posted on 07/28/2006 2:13:33 AM PDT by msnimje (Uni-FAIL - UN peace keeping force in Lebanon has lived up to its name.)
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To: beyond the sea
Thanks, good general site. I'm a geologist myself.
12 posted on 07/28/2006 3:01:19 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

"Rustam Pakaya, a senior health ministry official in Jakarta, said there were four villages threatened by the volcano.

"There are 3 400 people evacuating. But they return to their home and work in the morning," Pakaya said. - Reuters"



Optimistic guy, no?


13 posted on 07/28/2006 3:53:50 AM PDT by jeffers
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To: American in Israel
It seems that once a Nation wipes out it's Christian population with the Islamic Horde, it turns from the Vacation spot of the Earth to the Volcano and Tsunami Capitol.

Nice, but the population of the islands where this volcano is is 95% CHRISTIAN.

Ooops. So much for that theory.

14 posted on 07/28/2006 4:21:31 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: beyond the sea

The guy who runs that webpage is an abject idiot.


15 posted on 07/28/2006 4:22:01 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: taxesareforever
Global warming in action.

No, actually global cooling.

If this baby blasts some ash up high enough then it will give us a sunshade and break the heat wave in California.

But sulfur dioxide gas released by volcanos can sometimes reach the upper atmosphere and there reflect solar heat back from Earth and cause some global cooling.

This volcanic eruption doesn't sound big enough to do the job, however.

16 posted on 07/28/2006 4:33:22 AM PDT by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts)
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To: patriciaruth

This volcano erupts a lot in not-that-big-eruptions.

The whole island of Siau was evacuated because of it in 1974 - it's a threat to people living on the island and not much else.


17 posted on 07/28/2006 4:47:07 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: wolfgang13

The heat wave in California has more to do with increased solar activity this year, not Boxer, etc. Scientists have found a way to predict solar output from reactions going on under the surface, and they predicted a scorcher this year.

Before that less sun spots than normal were the only clue they had to go on. Sunspots cycles are around every 9-10 year I think.

18 years ago we had a hot time here, but the worst years were around 1903.


19 posted on 07/28/2006 5:04:21 AM PDT by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts)
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To: Strategerist
Ooops. So much for that theory.

No, it just shows how few Mooslimbs it takes to really, really piss off Allah.....

20 posted on 07/28/2006 5:15:26 AM PDT by Thermalseeker
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To: American in Israel
My first awareness of the evils of islam was the utter destruction of Christian villages in Indonesia.

I also seem to recall that as long as slick willie was so very friendly with the Riady's, he was not about to comment on the atrocities.

21 posted on 07/28/2006 5:29:26 AM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: Strategerist
...... and?

Do you not think there are oceanic volcanoes? If you don't care to learn, you needn't give me your needless vitriol about that guy.

I was passing along info on the oceans, not trying to please you.

22 posted on 07/28/2006 5:31:45 AM PDT by beyond the sea (The truth exists even when it is ignored.)
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To: beyond the sea
Do you not think there are oceanic volcanoes? If you don't care to learn, you needn't give me your needless vitriol about that guy.

I knew about oceanic volcanoes long before the clown that runs "iceagenow" did. (Incidentally, he cites as one of his sources on the issue the fake, fraudulent news site (based in New Jersey) "India Daily."

Underwater volcanoes are perfectly normal, and have been going on for 4 billion years. There has been no increase in underwater volcanic activity at all.

What there has been an increase in is the ability to find and study underwater volcanoes, and also an increased ability with the internet for clueless nitwits like the author of iceagenow to google around and collect underwater volcano reports and convince himself that underwater volcanoes suddenly started erupting when he started hearing about them.

A good example is the MASSIVE increase in reported tornadoes in the US in the last 50 years.

Do you really think the number of tornadoes has gone up? Of course not. More of them are just being reported. No weather radar 50 years ago, no storm chasers, etc.

His entire site is essentially worthless.

Amazes me the incredible passion people have for junk science on the internet and worthless nonsense from Coast-to-Coast regulars.

23 posted on 07/28/2006 5:40:54 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Google Earth Bookmark:
http://members.cox.net/shadowman99/Manado.kmz


24 posted on 07/28/2006 5:50:54 AM PDT by shadowman99
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To: TigerLikesRooster
"Thousands flee Indonesian volcano"

They should never been in the volcano in the first place.

25 posted on 07/28/2006 6:36:10 AM PDT by #1CTYankee (That's right, I have no proof. So what of it??)
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To: #1CTYankee

LOL!


26 posted on 07/28/2006 6:40:10 AM PDT by freedomson (Tagline comment removed by moderator)
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To: Strategerist

I'm having trouble finding info on the religious demographic of those islands (now I'm curious!) - can you link me to anything?

Plenty of stuff on the totality of Indonesia of course - 88% Muslim, over 17000 islands (hard to believe there are that many!), largest number of active volcanos in the world, frequent earthquakes etc.


27 posted on 07/28/2006 6:56:06 AM PDT by agrace
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To: agrace
However, it's not as Muslim as you think.

The thing about Islam in Indonesia is that the local population infuse a LOT of local religious beliefs into the religion, much to the extreme annoyance of the die-hard Wahhabis in Saudi Arabia. Even the westernmost part of Indonesia--where Islam has its strongest hold--the religion there has still quite a lot of differences from Wahhabism. Saudis have sent many Wahhabi missionaries to Indonesia but their success have been mixed at best.

28 posted on 07/28/2006 7:46:07 AM PDT by RayChuang88
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To: Strategerist
There has been no increase in underwater volcanic activity at all.

You know. LOL!

Apparently you've been down therein the oceans without oxygen for some time.

29 posted on 07/28/2006 8:05:51 AM PDT by beyond the sea (The truth exists even when it is ignored.)
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To: taxesareforever

I hope Indonesia didn't sign Kyoto, I think they just went way over their limits!


30 posted on 07/28/2006 8:16:25 AM PDT by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON!)
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To: Strategerist
Amazes me the incredible passion people have for junk science on the internet and worthless nonsense from Coast-to-Coast regulars.

Hey genius, and I say that with great sarcasm, it's understandable that you are amazed.

I merely posted about the ocean volcanoes to bring up the SUBJECT of them to the other poster (not to you). I did NOT post it to propose that volcanoes have necessarily increased. Get a grip and lose the haughty, irritated attitude. You make FR look bad.

I don't know that under ocean volcanoes have increased, and you with your head firmly in a self-righteous position and otherwise, do not know either.

Don't bother replying. I try not to communicate with self-righteous types with huge, arrogant, but insecure chips on their shoulders.

Pick a fight with someone else.... preferably with someone with whom you live.

31 posted on 07/28/2006 8:16:49 AM PDT by beyond the sea (The truth exists even when it is ignored.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

That part of the world is having a bad time.


32 posted on 07/28/2006 9:03:29 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (999-TNS)
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To: taxesareforever

I think its Mount Gore: LOOK OUT, HE'S GOIN' TO BLOW (followed by lots of hot gas).


33 posted on 07/28/2006 9:15:01 AM PDT by JewishRighter
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To: Strategerist

Perhaps some of the Islands, but from my search the Islands are best known for the ferry that sank near there with 500 people fleeing the slaughter. The islands wildly vary in creed. I think that this area is one of the last remaining (surviving) areas with some Christians, mixed with the most radical sectarian violence of the Muslims.

The other areas are now listed as 99 to 95 percent Muslim. They are quieter, killing christians is no big deal. Perhaps they will make an indangered species licencing on the sport. But I doubt it.


34 posted on 07/28/2006 10:02:24 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Fred Nerks
Are you ready to travel? It's time...
35 posted on 07/28/2006 10:17:28 AM PDT by jan in Colorado (http://www.bootmurtha.com -www.irey.com and www.vets4Irey.com)
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To: taxesareforever

look at it the other way, if it pushes enough ash into the air you get the opposite, it blocks out the sun.


36 posted on 07/28/2006 11:08:31 AM PDT by MD_Willington_1976
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To: taxesareforever

I only read this thread just to see if anyone was going to say "global warming" or "bush did it". 2nd post. 2nd post. $*!


37 posted on 07/28/2006 11:09:52 AM PDT by bobdsmith
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I keep trying to warn these guys, God REALLY REALLY gets pissed off when somebody calls him "allah"...


38 posted on 07/28/2006 12:53:35 PM PDT by Kenton
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To: bobdsmith

Isn't it great when great minds think alike? :)


39 posted on 07/28/2006 3:28:49 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: jan in Colorado

what, do you think I have nothing better to do?

40 posted on 07/28/2006 6:10:17 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Read the bio THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free! Click Fred Nerks for link to my Page.)
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To: Fred Nerks

I have some free, frequent flier tickets, will that help?


41 posted on 07/28/2006 6:13:37 PM PDT by jan in Colorado (http://www.bootmurtha.com -www.irey.com and www.vets4Irey.com)
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To: jan in Colorado

I have some free, frequent flier tickets, will that help?

-----

Only if I can take the geologist with me and toss him out of the 'plane!


42 posted on 07/28/2006 8:26:24 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Read the bio THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free! Click Fred Nerks for link to my Page.)
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To: Fred Nerks
Only if I can take the geologist with me and toss him out of the 'plane!

OUCH...What did he do now?

43 posted on 07/28/2006 10:58:25 PM PDT by jan in Colorado (http://www.bootmurtha.com -www.irey.com and www.vets4Irey.com)
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To: jan in Colorado

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1673611/posts?page=56#56

I'm still trying to think of an answer to that one.


44 posted on 07/28/2006 11:03:12 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Read the bio THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free! Click Fred Nerks for link to my Page.)
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To: Fred Nerks
I'm still trying to think of an answer to that one.

Save your breath...practice your humming and get these volcanoes under control! ;o)

45 posted on 07/28/2006 11:58:34 PM PDT by jan in Colorado (http://www.bootmurtha.com -www.irey.com and www.vets4Irey.com)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

God hates slam!


46 posted on 07/29/2006 5:29:06 AM PDT by semaj
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