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Vegan diet reverses diabetes symptoms, study finds
Yahoo News ^ | July 27, 2006 | Maggie Fox

Posted on 07/28/2006 4:30:14 AM PDT by grundle

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - People who ate a low-fat vegan diet, cutting out all meat and dairy, lowered their blood sugar more and lost more weight than people on a standard American Diabetes Association diet, researchers said on Thursday.

They lowered their cholesterol more and ended up with better kidney function, according to the report published in Diabetes Care, a journal published by the American Diabetes Association.

Participants said the vegan diet was easier to follow than most because they did not measure portions or count calories. Three of the vegan dieters dropped out of the study, compared to eight on the standard diet.

"I hope this study will rekindle interest in using diet changes first, rather than prescription drugs," Dr. Neal Barnard, president of the Physician's Committee for Responsible Medicine, which helped conduct the study, told a news conference.

An estimated 18 million Americans have type-2 diabetes, which results from a combination of genetics and poor eating and exercise habits. They run a high risk of heart disease, stroke, kidney failure, blindness and limb loss.

Barnard's team and colleagues at George Washington University, the University of Toronto and the University of North Carolina tested 99 people with type-2 diabetes, assigning them randomly to either a low-fat, low-sugar vegan diet or the standard American Diabetes Association diet.

After 22 weeks on the diet, 43 percent of those on the vegan diet and 26 percent of those on the standard diet were either able to stop taking some of their drugs such as insulin or glucose-control medications, or lowered the doses.

The vegan dieters lost 14 pounds (6.5 kg) on average while the diabetes association dieters lost 6.8 pounds (3.1 kg).

An important level of glucose control called a1c fell by 1.23 points in the vegan group and by 0.38 in the group on the standard diet.

DROPPING DRUGS

A1c gives a measure of how well-controlled blood sugar has been over the preceding three months.

In the dieters who did not change whatever cholesterol drugs they were on during the study, LDL or "bad" cholesterol fell by 21 percent in the vegan group and 10 percent in the standard diet group.

The vegan diet removed all animal products, including meat, fish and dairy. It was also low in added fat and in sugar.

The American Diabetes Association diet is more tailored, taking into account the patient's weight and cholesterol. Most patients on this diet cut calories significantly, and were told to eat sugary and starchy foods in moderation.

All 99 participants met weekly with advisers, who advised them on recipes, gave them tips for sticking to their respective diets, and offered encouragement.

"We have got a combination here that works successfully," said Dr. David Jenkins of the University of Toronto, who worked on the study. "The message that we so often get with diet is that it is no good because nobody follows it for very long."

Dr. Joshua Cohen, George Washington University associate professor of medicine, said everyone diagnosed with diabetes is told to start eating more carefully.

"That may be among the hardest things that any of us can do," Cohen told the news conference.

The vegan diet "is at least as good, if not better than traditional approaches," Cohen said.

Vance Warren, a 36-year-old retired police officer living in Washington, said he lowered his a1c from 10.4, considered uncontrolled diabetes, to 5.1, considered a healthy level, over 18 months. "My life is much better being 74 pounds (34 kg) lighter," Warren told the news conference.


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KEYWORDS: a1c; blood; bloodsugar; diabetes; diabetic; endocrinology; food; glucose; glucoselevels; health; vegan; vegetables; vegetarian; vegetarianism
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1 posted on 07/28/2006 4:30:15 AM PDT by grundle
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To: grundle
"My life is much better being 74 pounds (34 kg) lighter," Warren told the news conference.

I'll bet it is, Mr. Warren! Good on you!

Interesting that he's a "retired police officer" at 36. I wonder if he's on disability retirement, due to complications of his (former) weight.

2 posted on 07/28/2006 4:33:32 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I've always wanted to be 40 ... and it's as good as I anticipated!)
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To: grundle

No, excercies and eating 1/3 of what your normal diet is reverses diabetes.

I am living proof.

Be active and leave the spoon in the drawer.

Hmmmm... I do have some Rocky Road Ice Cream calling me on this cool, sultry day....darn back is out and I can't bend down to pull it from the freezer.

Smores sound good too but again all I can take is one else the body goes nuts.


3 posted on 07/28/2006 4:36:53 AM PDT by Global2010 (Show me da paw Ya'll)
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To: grundle

I have type 2 diabetes and it isn't the meat and dairy products that are the problem. It's the carbohydrates. As long as I keep the starches, pasta, bread, etc. at a minimum my blood sugar is under control. As with anything else, moderation is the key.


4 posted on 07/28/2006 4:36:55 AM PDT by Russ
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To: Tax-chick

Too many years at the donut shop.


5 posted on 07/28/2006 4:37:11 AM PDT by xxyyxx
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To: grundle

Wonder how many simple carbs from sugar and highly refined grains were on the Vegan diet? Most vegans I know only eat vegetables, fruits and natural grains. Nothing animal related at all, which cuts out practically all jumk carbs.

Good rule of thumb: When you cook, your ingredients shouldn't have ingredients.


6 posted on 07/28/2006 4:37:47 AM PDT by IamConservative (Humility is not thinking less of oneself; humility is thinking about oneself less.)
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To: Russ

Oh sooo true I like my home made soup but I use black rice in the this time of year Chicken, squash veg soup.

THe white rice and taters are killer however I can eat 1/4 of a tator and stay in healthy range.

Have to admit being diabetic in reverse not alot of money goes to the local grocery store and my saving acct. is growing.


7 posted on 07/28/2006 4:41:15 AM PDT by Global2010 (Show me da paw Ya'll)
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To: cyborg

Ping!


8 posted on 07/28/2006 4:42:45 AM PDT by Petronski (Living His life abundantly.)
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To: grundle

Didn't spend millions of years getting to the top of the food chain, to eat salad.


9 posted on 07/28/2006 4:42:59 AM PDT by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: grundle

ping for later


10 posted on 07/28/2006 4:43:46 AM PDT by kellynch (Expecto Patronum!)
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To: IamConservative

Animal products have no carbs at all (except for milk which has milk-sugar). I think you meant to say "junk calories".


11 posted on 07/28/2006 4:44:40 AM PDT by muawiyah (-/sarcasm)
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To: grundle
I would love them to do a study on the effects of a low sugar, Ph balanced diet that includes anti fungal food groups and supplements. The problem is that stage two diabetes is linked to a type of systemic fungus infection, but if that was proven it would cost the pharmaceutical industry billions. Sadly I dobut a study will be done.

But, if you cut out corn and refined wheat, eat six capsules of cinnamon (two taken three times a day) along with capsules of coconut oil, and olive leaf extract plus oregano oil type p73 and psysillium fiber you may quickly see a dynamic change that will be a lot easier than a vegan diet. Plus take a good comprehensive food based multi vitamin and chromium picolonate you will most likely beat infectious diabetes as it is becoming called. (Type two)

Note that if it is fungal infectious diabetes it will often show up with other fungal symptoms such as rashes, jock itch, psoriasis, toe nail infections, Candida, chronic fatigue or irritable bowl syndrome.

If you get Sat TV, check the mens channel for a show called "Know the cause". Could save your life.
12 posted on 07/28/2006 4:47:30 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: American in Israel
Thanks, for the informative post!
13 posted on 07/28/2006 4:51:35 AM PDT by after dark ('Tis now the very witching time of night;)
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To: grundle

Do cows have cholesterol and if so, where do they get it from?


14 posted on 07/28/2006 4:55:42 AM PDT by Paloma_55 (I may be a hateful bigot, but I still love you)
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To: grundle

Dr. John McDougall has been telling us this for 20 years but no one will listen. Take a look at this website.. http://www.drmcdougall.com Some really good info about healthy eating and how it can cure some of the cronic problems many of us have.


15 posted on 07/28/2006 4:55:48 AM PDT by woofer2425 (Kerry LIED)
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To: American in Israel

Interesting. Can you suggest any reading material that supports this?


16 posted on 07/28/2006 5:04:45 AM PDT by 1 spark
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To: muawiyah
Animal products have no carbs at all (except for milk which has milk-sugar). I think you meant to say "junk calories".

I was making an observation that the Vegan diet may/could also have a very low glycemic index, i.e. junk calories, just as a ketogenic diet like the Atkins plan does. It is simple carbs that trigger the insulin response.

A lot of foods which have simple carbs in them that you avoid on a ketogenic diet, such as Pasta and bread, contain animal products; eggs, milk, animal fat, etc., so a Vegan wouldn't eat them. Most of the Vegans are also very conscious about what they drink, favoring "all natural", "organic", etc., thus avoiding more junk calories in soda, refined juice, etc.

So, for controlling the insulin reaction, a Vegan diet *could* be effective for the same reason a ketogeninc diet is. Granted, not all vegans would make food choices that would result in a very low carb intake, but the opportunity is there.

In short, the study may have proven what we already know. Simple carbs from sugar and refined grains can wreck your blood sugar.

17 posted on 07/28/2006 5:11:43 AM PDT by IamConservative (Humility is not thinking less of oneself; humility is thinking about oneself less.)
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To: woofer2425

If you go out and kill your own meat, and eat it, as well as everything else, in moderation, you are on the right track.

The problem with all food product offered cheaply in supermarkets is whats in it and what was it grown with...I am not crazy about meat pumped up with hormones and massive doses of steroids and antibiotics, nor vegitable doused with fertilizers and lethal insecticides.

Like most people I don't grow enough of my own vegitables nor shoot enough of my own game meat to really make a difference in my diet.


18 posted on 07/28/2006 5:16:02 AM PDT by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: IamConservative

Good tagline!


19 posted on 07/28/2006 5:17:14 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I've always wanted to be 40 ... and it's as good as I anticipated!)
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To: Russ
I have type 2 diabetes and it isn't the meat and dairy products that are the problem. It's the carbohydrates. As long as I keep the starches, pasta, bread, etc. at a minimum my blood sugar is under control. As with anything else, moderation is the key.

I got my blood sugar under control by living on a low carb diet. I like meat and eat it most meals. On my low carb diet,exercise and current medication I have lost 35 lbs and brought my blood sugar into a controlled range under 125 from over 300. A new medication I just started is also very good. It is called "Beyeta" and is a last step before insulin.

20 posted on 07/28/2006 5:18:26 AM PDT by River_Wrangler (Nothing difficult is ever easy!)
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To: muawiyah
Animal products have no carbs at all (except for milk which has milk-sugar). I think you meant to say "junk calories".

I read my first post again and see what you meant here. I mixed the metaphor so to speak.

It is interesting though. I would like to see the vegans diet plan. I bet it was low on the junk carbs. I am not diabetic, but battle my weight. If I avoid potatoes, white rice, bread, pasta and sweets - oh, and beer :(, I can eat all I want and won't gain an ounce. I put some simple carbs in and my clothes will immediately begin to shrink!

21 posted on 07/28/2006 5:20:25 AM PDT by IamConservative (Humility is not thinking less of oneself; humility is thinking about oneself less.)
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To: IamConservative
The vegan diet is undoubtedly heavy on lowglycemic level veggies.

If you pursue such a diet long enough, you can begin to smell the fructose in green apples as you enter the grocery store.

The sort of vegan diets I've looked at are short on fats and oils. There's this false belief out there that it's "sugar" and "fat" that packs on the pounds. Actually, for most folks, it's starch and starch and starch and starch that do the job.

22 posted on 07/28/2006 5:36:41 AM PDT by muawiyah (-/sarcasm)
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To: Tax-chick

Dairy I could believe, since lactose is basically a form of sugar.... but meat? Its protien, what benefit is there from cutting out protien?


23 posted on 07/28/2006 5:41:53 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: American in Israel
Thanks for the info, especially the cinnamon capsules as I didn't know how many capsules to take every day :)

I've done the Vegan thing. It soooo took the joy out of eating out with my husband. But it does work.

sw

24 posted on 07/28/2006 5:49:23 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: HamiltonJay

Beats me. As others more familiar with the subject are saying, it's possible that other factors are responsible for the benefits of the vegan diet, and the avoidance of meat isn't what helps.


25 posted on 07/28/2006 5:51:36 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I've always wanted to be 40 ... and it's as good as I anticipated!)
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To: grundle
Strict Atkins and lots of walking did it for me.Lost 30+ pounds with surprisingly little trouble and,as a result,my doctor said that my A1c was much,much better.

However,my hip went out on me not too long ago and now I can't walk well so the weight is coming back.

Atkins was surprisingly easy for me,a milk-a-holic,bread-a-holic,chocoholic,junk food-a-holic,to follow. My doctor told me that it was because protein (of which Atkins provides a lot)is better able than any other type of food to turn off the little switch in your head that tells you that you're hungry.

26 posted on 07/28/2006 5:55:30 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative
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To: Global2010

Black rice?

I've never heard of it. Sounds interesting.

Comapred to white rice, what does it taste like?


27 posted on 07/28/2006 6:25:06 AM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: grundle

It is amazing how little food your body needs. I cut my callories by 2/3 and do aerobic exercise 7 days a week. I used to just lift weights 5 days a week. I have now gone from 240lbs to 195lbs and my benches and squats have suffered little. The main thing though is that my blood pressure went from pre-hypertension to 115/65 and my heart rate went from 80bpm to 48bpm.

Conclusion: Your body does not like being overweight and it reacts very quickly when you shed pounds.


28 posted on 07/28/2006 6:25:30 AM PDT by mlbford2 (I love my Semis, but for me they are for the range. My life is protected by my S&W revolver.)
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To: grundle

Exercise and a low carb, with plenty of protein (meat) had my blood sugar normal within a week. Whatever works.


29 posted on 07/28/2006 6:34:56 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: muawiyah
Actually, for most folks, it's starch and starch and starch and starch that do the job.

That's exactly what makes my clothes shrink!

30 posted on 07/28/2006 7:00:14 AM PDT by IamConservative (Humility is not thinking less of oneself; humility is thinking about oneself less.)
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To: grundle
Head's up, folks. In case anyone hasn't mentioned it here yet, this crowd is an animal right's group and has been slammed by the AMA:

The American Medical Association (AMA), which actually represents the medical profession, has called PCRM a “fringe organization” that uses “unethical tactics” and is “interested in perverting medical science.”

http://www.activistcash.com/organization_overview.cfm/oid/23

31 posted on 07/28/2006 7:05:11 AM PDT by Ladysmith ((NRA, SAS) Gun owners have illustrated rights are individual and can be protected by individuals.)
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To: Ladysmith

I don't like the PCRM but it IS true that a vegan diet is very healthy. Even if a person doesn't want to be vegan or vegetarian, eating less animal protein and even less refined carbs will help diabetes. Also, exercise, vigorous exercise is the absolute key. Even if a person is a meat eater, it depends on what kind and how often the meat is consumed. My FIL is almost 80 but he HUNTS his own meat which is exercise and guaranteed not to contain toxic poison chemicals, red dyes to make the meat look all pretty,etc.


32 posted on 07/28/2006 8:11:47 AM PDT by cyborg (No I don't miss the single life at all.)
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To: MplsSteve

Wild black rice is very fiber rich. White rice is processed, bleached garbage.


33 posted on 07/28/2006 8:14:44 AM PDT by cyborg (No I don't miss the single life at all.)
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To: HamiltonJay; Tax-chick

I've not eaten in the longest time. My protein is fine. I get it from green vegetables. B12 is great. Except for the little milk in my morning coffee, I don't eat dairy anymore because raw cheese can be expensive. Meat is not the only source of protein. Where do you think animals get their protein from? Plants.


34 posted on 07/28/2006 8:16:51 AM PDT by cyborg (No I don't miss the single life at all.)
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To: Russ
I have a friend who also found that it is the carbs, that he can eat some sweets as long as it is after a low carb meal (eggs before the muffin). Walking the stairs makes for him the best exercise. Like you said, moderation is important.
35 posted on 07/28/2006 8:19:10 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: IamConservative

I am a vegetarian who eats a lot of unprocessed foods and raw veggies and fruits. I tend to emphasize the greens and sprouted lentils for more protein. I try to stay away from sweet fruits,etc. My fasting blood sugar was 73 last time it was tested and I had no nutritional issues. My sister was quite heavy and lost weight eating a vegetarian diet emphasizing raw cheese and organic fruits and veggies. I cut out all refined carbs and it's true. Once you cut out refined carbs, the weight just peels off (if you exercise!).


36 posted on 07/28/2006 8:22:59 AM PDT by cyborg (No I don't miss the single life at all.)
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To: Dante3; Russ

Keep a small bottle of bitter melon capsules on hand. It's derived from a very bitter gourd and it lowers blood sugar like gluco drugs. I used to tell my customers that if they really want to eat something sweet to eat the sweets and then take one or two of the capsules. It's worked every time. Oh yeah, sprouting lentils and eating heavy fiberous starches like quinoa and oatgroats help too.


37 posted on 07/28/2006 8:25:46 AM PDT by cyborg (No I don't miss the single life at all.)
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To: cyborg

I've heard that taking a shot of hard liquor can also lower blood sugar.


38 posted on 07/28/2006 8:53:08 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: Dante3

Well maybe...I have an uncle that guzzles 180 proof rum and has no diabetes. I don't know about the liver :D


39 posted on 07/28/2006 8:58:06 AM PDT by cyborg (No I don't miss the single life at all.)
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To: IamConservative

Darned (as they would say in the good old days), is that it?


40 posted on 07/28/2006 9:48:01 AM PDT by muawiyah (-/sarcasm)
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To: cyborg

Perhaps a dumb question...

Don't animals have a different digestive system than we do?

One that would make it easier for them to obtain protein from plants?

Or no?


41 posted on 07/28/2006 9:50:52 AM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: cyborg
When it comes to carbs and Type II diabetics, it's not the "refined carbohydrates" that are the problem, it's the "carbohydrates".

Your liver turns ALL that stuff into sugar. The trick is to eat only low glycemic vegetables to get your carbohydrates. That's going to be tomatoes, lettuce, celery, raw carrots, and so forth, forever!

The "complex carbohydrates" stuff was fake anyway. Doesn't matter whether the carbs are complex or simple, the body has ways of converting all of them instantly to exactly the type of sugar it prefers. Unless those carbs are wrapped in fiber (which is not converted to a preferred sugar), it's going to go in right now, not later, and it has nothing to do with the chemistry of the particular digestible carbohydrate you are consuming.

42 posted on 07/28/2006 9:52:44 AM PDT by muawiyah (-/sarcasm)
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Head's up, folks. In case anyone hasn't mentioned it here yet, this crowd is an animal right's group and has been slammed by the AMA:...

Thank you! You beat me to it. Unfortunately this fact will get lost in the "I turned my life around by eating tofu" noise.

43 posted on 07/28/2006 9:56:41 AM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: River_Wrangler
It is called "Beyeta" and is a last step before insulin.

I'm on Byetta (proper spelling) as well. Gee, it's been a year now. It's not a 'last step before insulin,' You can be prescribed Byetta after being on insulin. Byetta is a hormone and works differently than insulin.

I used Topamax for a number of months, went on Atkins, which really helped control the blood sugars, helped with weight loss, and let me eliminate insulin. While I thought I was watching the carbs before, it's not until you do something like Atkins that you really get a feel for staring those damn carbs in the face, not just watching them. : )

Now I take Byetta. I keep a fast acting insulin on hand for when I forget or am traveling (hard to lug that Byetta cold pack around - I'd rather just eat and treat w/the insulin pen).

I go to a university diabetes center. They tell me that in about a year we'll be able to take Byetta once a week. See also: http://www.diabetesincontrol.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=3060

44 posted on 07/28/2006 10:01:29 AM PDT by radiohead (Hey Kerry, I'm still here; still hating your lying, stinking, guts you coward.)
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To: cyborg
I've not eaten in the longest time.

Well, go eat something before you get sick!

45 posted on 07/28/2006 11:05:36 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I've always wanted to be 40 ... and it's as good as I anticipated!)
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To: cyborg

Reread my posts, I never said meat was the only source of protein, I said I don't see how cutting out meat is going to have any effect on diabetes... Dairy, yes, its full of sugars, but meat? Its fat and protien, neither of which messes with blood sugar levels.


46 posted on 07/28/2006 12:48:00 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: cyborg
Well, I don't know. From the whacked-out ideas and beliefs some of these veggans have, it seems to me their brains are very malnourished from the lack of protein. Their diabetes may be down but at what costs to the rest of their bodies?

I'm with you on wild game being more healthy than the chemically-loaded farm animals. That and lower carb intact are the way to go. CRM nutballs don't give a rip about humans; they want to stop the harvesting of animals.

47 posted on 07/28/2006 4:07:09 PM PDT by Ladysmith ((NRA, SAS) Gun owners have illustrated rights are individual and can be protected by individuals.)
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To: HamiltonJay

I wasn't challenging your statement, just talking about my experiences with protein.


48 posted on 07/28/2006 6:52:49 PM PDT by cyborg (No I don't miss the single life at all.)
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To: MplsSteve

Have no idea. I know that I've not had issues.


49 posted on 07/28/2006 6:54:05 PM PDT by cyborg (No I don't miss the single life at all.)
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To: Ladysmith

I never joined PETA, PCRM is a arm of the PETA organisation. I do all my vegetarian advocacy and animal welfare campaigning on my own. They're too radical for me to associate with. MY FIL will never stop eating meat. I won't try as it's keeping him in very good shape. He also grows a substantial garden and works in it almost every day. Country life has big benefits. I see this now that I've returned to Long Island for a visit.


50 posted on 07/28/2006 6:58:13 PM PDT by cyborg (No I don't miss the single life at all.)
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