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To: sergey1973
Problem is the Russians (or should I say, that Pucker Futin) have gratuitously conferred Russian citizenship on thousands in these provinces. The Russians have openly threatened to keep their "peacekeeping" forces in Georgia even if (when) their official mandate is removed or expires. They'll use the excuse of protecting Russian "citizens" to do so, even though they unilaterally manufactured those "citizenships" themselves.

Putin is such a contemptible hypocrite.

BTW, I'm not especially knowledgeable about the background, and therefore don't have a firm opinion about whether these provinces should be reigned in, semi-autonomous, fully autonomous, or fully independent. It's just the intolerable hypocrisy of Putin: Doing one thing wrt to Chechnya, and interfering with his neighbors to effect the exact opposite result next door. After all, the tradition of semi-autonomy was just as long (or short) and just as strong (or weak) with respect to Chechnya as wrt to Abkhazia.

5 posted on 07/28/2006 11:57:49 AM PDT by Stultis (I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
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To: Stultis

Mostly agreed. Generaly my (and common sense) position is that political borders should not be redrawn except in very special circumstances.

I fully against granting any independence to Muslim Chechnya because Muslim Chechnya surely will become a base for the international Jihadists to spread Jihad elsewhere as it did in the interim between 1st and second Chechen wars (late 1990's).

I'm also against Russian support to Abkhazia separatists. This is a clear and unfriendly act toward Russian neighbor. Russia and Georgia should be natural allies as both countries have Eastern Orthodox Christian roots and as the counterweight to spreading Jihad in Caucasus.

I would have supported granting independence to Armenia against Turkish empire at the end of WWI as a Christian ally of the Western Civilization.

I could be accused of hypocrisy too -:))), but I think double standards are normal when we are talking about civilizational struggle.


6 posted on 07/28/2006 12:05:28 PM PDT by sergey1973
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