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Rice says "time for ceasefire" after Qana bombing
Reuters ^ | July 30, 2006

Posted on 07/30/2006 2:43:48 AM PDT by West Coast Conservative

U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, speaking after the Israeli bombing of the Lebanese village of Qana, said it was time for a ceasefire in the war between Israel and Hizbollah guerrillas.

She said she was saddened by the bombing and confirmed that she had canceled a planned trip to Beirut, but would stay in Israel to try to work out a deal for ending the 19-day-old conflict.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2006israelwar; hezbollah; israel; killalqaeda; killhamas; killhezbollah; killterrorists; lebanon; qana; rice; terrorists
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To: West Coast Conservative
speaking after the Israeli bombing of the Lebanese village of Qana, said it was time for a ceasefire

I assume Condi is talking about Hezbellah. If not, she needs to stick a sock in it. Until Israel finishes the job, a stop in the action will embolden all Islamic terroist groups. For cripe sake, the conflict is only 19 days old.

51 posted on 07/30/2006 5:09:41 AM PDT by Go Gordon (I don't know what your problem is, but I bet its hard to pronounce)
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To: Proud_texan
Excellent post. What gets me is that the only place that the similarities between the Nazi fanaticism and the Hezzie fanaticism being brought up is here on FR. The media (including FOX) won't bring this up! History is reliving itself now circa 1938.
52 posted on 07/30/2006 5:10:10 AM PDT by proudofthesouth (Mao said that power comes at the point of a rifle; I say FREEDOM does.)
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To: Go Gordon

FWIW, this is a Rooters piece with no verbatim quotes, so I wouldn't assume anything :)


53 posted on 07/30/2006 5:10:57 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Pine Mtn. Maverick

"The more dead kids there are, the more islam love it because it makes the jews look bad. They planned it this way. "

Their planning is very effective. If the head Hezbollah hides in the Iranian Embassy, as is rumored, that invites (1) Safety for him or (2) risking an additional war, with Iran. Win-win for Hezbollah.

We need to upgrade our planning and intelligence. Israel and US need more and better PR (propaganda).


54 posted on 07/30/2006 5:12:29 AM PDT by RoadTest (Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just, and this be our motto: in God is our trust.)
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To: docbnj

Good points -- these should be stated everytime the subject of destruction in Lebanon comes up!


55 posted on 07/30/2006 5:14:08 AM PDT by Jumper
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To: West Coast Conservative
Does the NYT get it, even?

A New Enemy Gains on the U.S. ("It abides by no laws of war")
  Posted by frankjr
On 07/30/2006 7:03:30 AM CDT · 5 replies · 91+ views


NY Times ^ | 7/30/06 | Thom Shanker
POUND for pound and pounding for pounding, the Israeli military is one of the world’s finest. But Hezbollah, with the discipline and ferocity of its fighters and ability to field advanced weaponry, has taken Israel by surprise. Now that surprise has rocketed back to Washington and across the American military. United States officials worry that they’re not prepared, either, for Hezbollah’s style of warfare — a kind that pits finders against hiders and favors the hiders. Certain that other terrorists are learning from Hezbollah’s successes, the United States is studying the conflict closely for lessons to apply to its own...

56 posted on 07/30/2006 5:16:26 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Pine Mtn. Maverick

Right. Iran is arming Syria with tanks, jets; and this new Shihab-3 ground-to-ground missile in the near future.

The longer this goes, the better the chances that this could really escalate.


57 posted on 07/30/2006 5:16:29 AM PDT by period end of story
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To: West Coast Conservative
Terror's playbook
  Posted by knighthawk
On 07/30/2006 6:34:31 AM CDT · 4 replies · 160+ views


NY Daily News ^ | July 30, 2006 | WILLIAM F. McCANTS
Al Qaeda manual is a blueprint for hate that reveals a sinister plot to invade & conquer Most Americans know that Al Qaeda and its franchises are willing to sink to any depth to destroy the United States. But few people realize just how deep those depths are. The public's knowledge of the terror group's goals and motives is largely confined to the English translations of Osama Bin Laden's and Ayman al-Zawahiri's propaganda. Consequently, Al Qaeda and like-minded groups, or "jihadis," are viewed either as unthinking zealots or misguided freedom fighters. "The Management of Savagery" - a book written in...

58 posted on 07/30/2006 5:18:04 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: proudofthesouth
"the only place that the similarities between the Nazi fanaticism and the Hezzie fanaticism being brought up is here on FR."

I think it's a PC thing or maybe a ratings thing that if they don't appear to be concerned about the children it'll turn their viewers off or they won't appear "sensitive". As someone else pointed out if they want to be concerned they should talk about the children and civilians killed by homicide bombers.

An example of this that stands out in my mind is the press conference a few years back when the Army (Air Force?) was talking about the Daisy Cutter. A reporter asked about the purpose and the speaker (I think he was a general) said "to kill people". You could have heard a pin drop. The reporters all looked like they'd just swallowed a 10 pound spit ball.

If we'd be concerned about the civilians in Dresden or Hiroshima we'd probably still be fighting (well, that's a stretch, but you see what I mean).

War is hell. Lots of innocents get dead, especially when the enemy is so chicken-spit to not even wear an identifiable uniform. It's a fact, the media should have studied a bit more history and get a clue but they're so lame I don't see that happening, Fox included (well, except for Brit).

59 posted on 07/30/2006 5:20:20 AM PDT by Proud_texan (Philosophy consists very largely of one philosopher arguing that all others are jackasses.)
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To: docbnj
Sorry about the kids, but their parents were warned to clear out and didn't

Or, couldn't

60 posted on 07/30/2006 5:26:16 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: West Coast Conservative
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1674567/posts

These people the Israelis are fighting are cowards, as illustrated in the above article, mingling with civilians some of which actually support them.

The bombing was to be expected. Rice should be calling for the Hezbollah's heads given their use of non-Geneva tactics of War. THEY are responsible.

61 posted on 07/30/2006 5:26:40 AM PDT by DoctorMichael (A wall first. A wall now.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

All the MSM is bemoaning the fact that women and children were killed. Certainly, that is a tragedy. But, since when did Hezbollah or any terrorist organization give a rats a$$ about women and children? Once again, the west loses the PR war.


62 posted on 07/30/2006 5:28:17 AM PDT by SMM48
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To: West Coast Conservative
LMAO

Hezbollahstan's PM blows off Rice

63 posted on 07/30/2006 5:32:25 AM PDT by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: tlb

I agree with you.I don't believe that Israel did them any damage. They killed some of them but that does not accomplish anything because they are like an anthill. You can kill a thousand of them today and by tomorrow they will all be replaced. You have got to cut off the head [in the case of the anthill, kill the queen] if you are going to kill them [destroy the anthill].

President Bush should keep Rice in Washington D.C.

If Israel stops now, they will pay a high price in blood in the near future if they stop now.

The U.S. should be a lesson for them. We did nothing when they blew up our embassies, troop barricka, and warship. This non action resulted in the attacka upon the World Trade Center and Pentegon.


64 posted on 07/30/2006 5:43:38 AM PDT by sport (cognizes)
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To: West Coast Conservative
WHERE HAS ALL THE COURAGE GONE? RICE IS FULL OF SHEEHAN.
65 posted on 07/30/2006 5:50:17 AM PDT by Pit1
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To: Pit1
I'll say it one last time. This is a Rooters piece without any verbatim quotes. Hows about we keep our powder dry 'til we find out exactly what she said :)
66 posted on 07/30/2006 5:53:13 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Pit1

"WHERE HAS ALL THE COURAGE GONE? RICE IS FULL OF SHEEHAN."

What a vile comment.

There is no cease fire and it is in our best interests that we call for one. As long as those two things happen, things are going as planned.


67 posted on 07/30/2006 5:59:34 AM PDT by stevestras
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To: West Coast Conservative

Ms. Rice, please STFU. If you don't have the backbone to fight a war against Islam the way Islamists fight it, then please resign and try for NFL Commissioner.


68 posted on 07/30/2006 5:59:58 AM PDT by montag813
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To: West Coast Conservative

Complete nonsense Condi.


69 posted on 07/30/2006 6:11:23 AM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: TomGuy

We (Western Civilization) are still trying to treat their attacks as police actions..................

So true!

Interesting, isn't it, that a gopher can pop up out of its' hole----- look, smell, listen and detect danger far away, while a Western liberal looks at savages gathering in city squares--holding up signs saying they are going to take over his country and behead the non-believers-------and his first impulse is to try to pet them into submission?

I have more respect for the gopher!


70 posted on 07/30/2006 6:58:52 AM PDT by Grateful One
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To: West Coast Conservative

A loss of nerve by Condi and the administration.

Hezbollah hides among the residents of this city and fires rockets. Reportedly, they prevent civilians from leaving the area even after warnings by the Israelis.

We should be pointing this out, not caving to public relations pressure.


71 posted on 07/30/2006 7:09:56 AM PDT by wildbill
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To: wildbill

When the Hezzbola publically admit defeat and swear to never attack Israel again, that's when the fighting should stop. NOT BEFORE!


72 posted on 07/30/2006 7:19:33 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Illegal immigration Control and US Border Security - The jobs George W. Bush refuses to do.)
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73 posted on 07/30/2006 7:21:03 AM PDT by SJackson (The PilgrimsóDoing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do!)
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To: txrangerette
It mostly depends...the diplomacy so-called...on whether the rest of the world is prepared to let Iran, through Hezbollah, take over Lebanon. Because that really appears to be what is happening, when you back off and take a look at the big picture.

Good insight.

I don't think Bush is prepared to let that happen, but will he have any Allies?

I guess that all depends on how this unexpected reaction of bad daughter Israel affects the 'international community' (aka New World) family. How much importance will Secretary Rice's admonishments hold compared to that of Daddy Annan and the U.N.?

74 posted on 07/30/2006 7:41:00 AM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: mewzilla
Here's a verbatim quote:

"I think it is time to get to a ceasefire. We actually have to try and put one in place. My work towards a ceasefire is really here today."

from

http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/its-time-for-a-ceasefire-says-us/2006/07/30/1154198012531.html

75 posted on 07/30/2006 7:50:20 AM PDT by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: West Coast Conservative

It's difficult to believe that Condi's out of the loop. So I'll assume that she's trying to please those who are attacking Israel from civilian locations (or the virtual European allies of those terrorists).

BREAKING: FOX reporting IDF has video proving Qana building had launchers
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1674610/posts


76 posted on 07/30/2006 7:50:45 AM PDT by familyop ("Either you're with us, or you're with the terrorists." --President Bush)
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To: mewzilla
US SECRETARY OF STATE CONDOLEEZZA RICE: "I think it is time to get to a ceasefire ... We actually have to try and put one in place ... We have to try and do our work well so that there will not be more and more and more incidents over many, many more years."

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,19966234-2,00.html

77 posted on 07/30/2006 7:51:59 AM PDT by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: West Coast Conservative

I believe Israel should call for a cease fire between the US and al-queda, too many civilians in Iraq have died /sarc off


78 posted on 07/30/2006 7:52:36 AM PDT by Armed Civilian ("Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue.")
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To: West Coast Conservative
Ceasefire=Israel leaves Lebanon and Hezballah comes back to the border.
79 posted on 07/30/2006 7:56:03 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (999-TNS)
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To: West Coast Conservative

I don't see anywhere that they use Condi's actual quote in the story.....it is in the HEADLINE- but not her actual quote and words....

meaning- I think her words have been taken out of context- and used to throw a big headline up and stir up trouble....

pathetic....

If she really is calling for NOW to be the time for a cease fire- and is doing so- BECAUSE of the bombing of "civilians" then why not print her FULL QUOTE?


80 posted on 07/30/2006 7:56:37 AM PDT by eeevil conservative (JOHN BOLTON FOR PRESIDENT)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Time for Rice to go! She looked the fool this morning. Said she wasnt going to Lebanon because of bombing. Lebanon told her not come.


81 posted on 07/30/2006 8:02:18 AM PDT by Comanche
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To: eeevil conservative

http://www.forbes.com/technology/ebusiness/feeds/ap/2006/07/30/ap2913864.html

Stymied in Mideast, Rice to Head Home

""We want a cease-fire as soon as possible," said Rice, during one of her strongest statements yet on the need to end the conflict. "


82 posted on 07/30/2006 8:04:29 AM PDT by stopem (God Bless the U.S.A the Troops who protect her, and their Commander In Chief !)
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To: TomGuy

....tell it to Bush.....I am amazed at every thread on FR where other's blame Rice....haha...she is not a maverick but works at the bequest of the Pres.....why don't some here see that???????


83 posted on 07/30/2006 8:04:44 AM PDT by NorCalRepub
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To: West Coast Conservative

The dynamic has changed. Once Rice and Bush began promoting a negotiated cease fire they then had to use whatever they could to bring the parties to the table including piling on with world media, Europe, et al re civilian casualties. Israel should play the righteous indignation game, drop the pretense of civility and go after every target south of the Litani without mercy. Show the world that you too can be crazy and unreasonable and the world will begin siding with you...its worked for the Arabs.


84 posted on 07/30/2006 8:05:48 AM PDT by HockeyPop
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To: stopem

Rice, Tony Snow, and Bolton have all repeatedly said they want a cease fire as soon as possible.....as long as it does not return us to status quo........

I am just suspicous of the way the media is reporting this....


85 posted on 07/30/2006 8:08:18 AM PDT by eeevil conservative (JOHN BOLTON FOR PRESIDENT)
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To: mewzilla
If you got off your you-know-what for a second you'd be able to find Rice's comments --- and we don't need the MSM for them.

Take a look lots of direct quotes -- all direct quotes.

86 posted on 07/30/2006 8:08:18 AM PDT by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: eeevil conservative

That appears to be the topic of interest for all the media including cable talkingheads.It will be spinned the way they can to make it sound bad BUT the quote are her exact words.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1674619/posts
This is a interesting thread.


87 posted on 07/30/2006 8:14:01 AM PDT by stopem (God Bless the U.S.A the Troops who protect her, and their Commander In Chief !)
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To: Pine Mtn. Maverick

Islam is at war with the west.

It always has been, but was quiescent in most of the 20th century due to the overwhelming military might of western powers and Japan.

Once again the menace which haunted the nightmares of our ancestors from its initial outbreak in the 600's through its expansion into the Holy Land and Mediterrean World in the 700s and 800's, to its assaults on Byzantium and invasion of the Balkans right up to the Barbary wars, has risen from the grave.

These people who are so outraged at the deaths of their own civlians from Israeli defense moves care not a whit for the numbers of dead Israelis, and rejoiced at American dead on 9-11.

Like the Communists, these people have their own vocabulary. "Civilians" applies to Muslims who have not elected to committ suicide to murder non-Muslims. It doesn't apply to non-Islamic individuals regardless of occcupation.

"Peace" means freedom from effective counterattack so they can hatch their murderous plots with impugnity.

Who are these savages kidding? They saw off the heads of captive non-Muslim civilians, they blow up Jewish cities, they attempt to kill civilians here, they use horrifyingly bellicose rhetoric in referring to the west, they come here and into Europe and expect us to honor THEIR customs and religion while killing people who so much as wear a cross or Star of David in THEIR countries.

Our leaders - here in the U.S. have GOT to get tough with these savages. If Hezbollah stills exists, Syria and Iran win.

If Syria and Iran win, we will be fighting these murderous beasts not in Iraq or Lebanon, but in New York, London and Paris.

Each and evey single Muslim should be expelled from every western country, their mosques and madrassehs closed and the state of war which exists between them and us, recognized for what it is.


88 posted on 07/30/2006 5:42:44 PM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

I can't believe see say such a thing....since, the building fall like 8 hours after IDF bombing. I think it'll be proven by the Israelis' themselves the terrorist either blew the building up or all the explosives hidden inside did it.


89 posted on 07/30/2006 5:46:06 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc. 10:2)
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