Posted on 07/30/2006 12:05:29 PM PDT by neverdem
Dear desperate Democrats,
Heres what we do. We run Bill Moyers for president.
I am serious as a stroke about this. Its simple, cheap and effective, and it will move the entire spectrum of political discussion in this country.
Moyers is the only public figure who can take the entire discussion and shove it toward moral clarity just by being there.
The poor man who is currently our president has reached such a point of befuddlement that he thinks stem-cell research is the same as taking human lives, but that 40,000 dead Iraqi civilians are progress toward democracy.
Bill Moyers has been grappling with how to fit moral issues to political issues ever since he left Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary and went to work for Lyndon Johnson in the teeth of the Vietnam War.
Moyers worked for years in television, seriously addressing the most difficult issues of our day. He has studied all different kinds of religions and different approaches to spirituality. Hes no Holy Joe, but he is a serious man.
He opens minds he doesnt scare people. He includes people in, not out. And he sees through the dark search for a temporary political advantage to the clear ground of the Founders.
He listens and he respects others.
Do I think Bill Moyers can win the presidency? No, that seems like a very long shot to me.
The nomination? No, that seems like a very long shot to me.
Then why run him? Think, imagine, if seven or eight other Democratic candidates, all beautifully coiffed and triangulated and carefully coached to say nothing that will offend anyone, stand on stage with Bill Moyers in front of cameras for a national debate What would happen? Bill Moyers would win, would walk away with it, just because he doesnt triangulate or calculate or trim or try to straddle the issues.
Bill Moyers doesnt have to endorse a constitutional amendment against flag burning or whatever wedge issue du jour Republicans have come up with.
He is not afraid of being called unpatriotic. And besides, he is a wise and a kind man who knows how to talk on TV.
It wont take much money file for him in a couple of early primaries and just get him into the debates.
Think about the potential Democratic candidates. Every single one of them needs a spine, needs political courage. What Moyers can do is not only show them what it looks like and indeed what it is, but also how people respond to it. Im damned if I want to go through another presidential primary with everyone trying to figure out who has the best chance to win instead of whos right. I want to vote for somebody whos good and brave and who should win.
One time in the Johnson years, LBJ called on Moyers to say the blessing at a dinner. SPEAK UP, Bill, Lyndon roared. I cant hear you.
Moyers replied, I wasnt speaking to you, sir.
Thats the point of a run by Moyers: He doesnt change to whom he is speaking just because some president is yelling at him.
To let Moyers know what you think of this idea, write him at PO Box 309, Bernardsville, NJ, 07924.
© 2006 Creators Syndicate Inc.
Moyers is an effete liberal snob. President? PTUI
Molly Ivins, unfortunately, appears to be relying more and more on a bottle of scotch for inspiration.
Ivins and Moyer - Feel the Hate.
This broad is as whacko as the jerk she is supporting. If she was really serious she would have considered Pee Wee Herman before Moyer.
MY post has been posted twice already? REALLY?
Must be some mind-reading going on.
Every once in a while you look at a person and cannot tell if they support a political agenda because they are evil or stupid, essentially it is the longstanding problem between recognizing the difference between malice and incompetence.
In the case of Molly Ivins, you don't have that problem. Idiot through and through.
We couldn't get this lucky.
White population: 6,840
Black population: 18
That's 0.26% black people in Moyer's "White Haven" enclave for those of you in Rio Linda.
So Molly Ivens is backing a racist. Let it go Jake, it's Chinatown.
And Garrison Keillor could be his running mate. Two weird, effeminate sobsisters out to Scold the World. Wins for me.
Billy MOYERS would make the rats yearn for the moderation of Algore.
He's coo coo for cocoa puffs.
molly maybe tied with helen thomas for the most hateful and ugly woman inside and out, in American ratjournalism, but I have to agree she has a point besides the one on her head.
A moyer ticket say with jesse jackass or john conyers or plastic face pelosi would be a great idea.
"Moral courage makes for political courage (Molly Ivins, BILL MOYERS FOR PRESIDENT)"
Too bad Moyers has neither.
Dumolbat promotes dingbat?
Moyers is one of the the most morally confused people I've seen.
Been reading her for years??? You are one who is
to be whipped with a wet noodle....Ivins and Moyers
are two of a kind..only one is more blatant about
their warped view of the world..guess which one? Jake
What's really scary is that there may be a few people who think Molly is clever and Moyers is a saint.
Just what the country needs, Bill Moyers in a position to steal more money from the taxpayers.
Sounds like we need to FREEP this poll.....www.herald-review.com in regard to keeping Molly and Ann Coulter's columns. I would love to have said "with the stipulation that both pictures be current ones." Take a look.
Molly Ivins, BILL MOYERS FOR PRESIDENT!
Ok, president of what?
The thing I like about Newt is he has more ideas in an hour than most people have in a week. I'll say this IF he seriously runs he'll raise the level of debate. And help the democrats in their fundraising.
MEXICO!!
Yeah, and Ramsey Clark for Attorney General.
This is as close to lucid as Molly gets. Which demonstrates how far from it she is on a good day.
Molly can shove it, too.
"went to work for Lyndon Johnson in the teeth of the Vietnam War" -- In my mind, Lyndon Johnson was a war criminal, who would not fight to win, who was willing to lose American lives toward some sort of empty stand-off. Should we assume that Moyers played a part in that policy? I bet we should!
Mexico?
Actually I was think of Bassas da India
Background:
This atoll is a volcanic rock surrounded by reefs and is awash at high tide. A French possession since 1897, it was placed under the administration of an Administrateur Superieur of the French Southern and Antarctic Lands.
https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/bs.html
Dear Molly
Go ahead and run him. It'll be a ball revisiting his financial corruption with PBS having to buy his programs from the company he set up using PBS funds. Redefine moral - or, for that matter, any kind of courage you like. He's still a sleazebag, a cheat, fraud and white collar criminal. And you aren't much better.
With love,
America
Yeah that would be good. Someplace where they can't do any damage.
Yes it helps to know the enemy. I agree they are two of a kind and I figured that was to be assumed from my comment. I've never been impressed by either Bill or Molly. Maybe if they were in a romantic comedy they'd be interesting but of course that would be a horror flick.
Ivins has no confidence in what the left wing of the Democrat party is about or can do in 2006 or 2008. The Moyers thing is really kind of a cry for help,... like those who supported Perot in the spring of '92. The Democrat Party is a political party, not an ideological discussion group, and Molly knows this. Fraud, deception, and "triangulation" are the only means the Clinton Democrats have left to "win" elections. They must pretend to be centrist, with the help of foolish scribblers like Molly and the dinosaur media. But, the ultra Cindy Sheehan Left that seems to be in control of the apparatus of the party doesn't see things that way, and will wreck it for them all, without fail. Bill Moyers is about as appealing as Aldai Stevenson's bathwater.
PLUS it's ruled by France and you know how they love the French. I see this as a win win win situation
1 We get rid of two idiots (always a good thing)
2 They can't really bother anyone. (as you so wisly said)
3 France has to spend their money supporting them.
I see no downside. :-)
I've only known one person who took Molly Ivins seriously. He bought her books (I think had one autographed), and read her column every time it came out. He was the most insane person I've ever known that could hold down a job. True story about him. He signed on as a non-smoker to get better insurance rates, and started hiding his smoking from the other guys at the fire station. About that time, he started going outside to water the lawn six or seven times a day. One of the other guys saw him out standing by the curb, freshly lit cigarette in hand. So, a couple of them banged out the door of the station before he could get rid of it. He palmed the lit cigarette, and put his hand in his pants pocket. They stood outside and talked to him until about five minutes after smoke quit coming out of his pocket.
Like your sense of humor...world needs more of it
today and tomorrow....Jake
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