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Shooting suspect was baptized
Seattle Post-Intelligencer ^ | July 29, 2006 | SCOTT GUTIERREZ

Posted on 07/30/2006 2:57:52 PM PDT by wideminded

RICHLAND -- Those who knew Naveed Haq said Saturday that to them he was an enigma, a puzzle that they wish they could have solved before his deadly rampage in a Seattle Jewish center.

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He held a degree in electrical engineering and was the son of a successful engineer, yet he couldn't keep a regular job. He was smart, creative and skilled as a writer. He recently won an essay contest for a U.S. Institute of Peace scholarship.

Yet Haq was frustrated at his lack of friends and female companionship.He told friends he felt alienated from his own family, in part because his career had disappointed his father and also because he had disavowed Islam last year, converting to Christianity.

Haq had begun studying the Bible, attending weekly men's spiritual group meetings, only to stop coming a few months after his baptism.

He had told the group's leader that he seen too much anger in Islam and that he wanted to find a new beginning in Christianity.

Yet in the midst of his shooting spree in Seattle Friday, he declared himself an angry Muslim.

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"Naveed had the profile of the guy who just couldn't get things together," said Erik Neilsen ...

Last winter, Haq began attending a weekly men's group meeting led by a member of the Word of Faith Church in Kennewick.

The group's leader, Albert Montelongo, said Haq started studying the Bible and in December he underwent a water baptism at the non-denominational church, performed by Montelongo. He said Haq accepted his new faith, though he knew that he would also be offending his own family and its deeply rooted culture. His father, Mian Haq, was among the founders of the Islamic Center of the Tri-Cities in Richland.

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(Excerpt) Read more at seattlepi.nwsource.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: albertmontelongo; baptism; haq; jewishfederation; jihadinamerica; montelongo; muslim; naveedhaq; navidhaq; oldnews; richland; seattle; shooting; usinstituteofpeace; usip
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To: operation clinton cleanup
Couldn't find the "winner" on their website.
21 posted on 07/30/2006 3:26:49 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: wideminded

The 9/11 hijackers also did all they could to blend in with western culture including things that are strictly forbidden in islam. They went to strip clubs and bars etc. Apparently nothing is off limits as long as it ends with the slaughter of infidels in the name of allah. (feces be upon him)


22 posted on 07/30/2006 3:27:56 PM PDT by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: wideminded

So? He was a nut case.


23 posted on 07/30/2006 3:28:46 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: wideminded

I had heard early on that he HAD been Lutheran then converted to Islam....so which media is LYING??


24 posted on 07/30/2006 3:29:22 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kaboom"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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To: wideminded
"Yet in the midst of his shooting spree in Seattle Friday, he declared himself an angry Muslim."

Key point mentioned in the article.

25 posted on 07/30/2006 3:30:45 PM PDT by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: bobdsmith

To me this is a very sad story. I have known so many who have tried to break with Islam, and it is very very hard when ones family turns against them. Islam is not a religion of peace. Do not let anyone, not even the President fool you. Surely, he has learned by now.


26 posted on 07/30/2006 3:31:21 PM PDT by tessalu
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To: wideminded
Having been an apostate muslim he was attempting to make up for his "evil" conversion through the only fairly certain way to earn allah's approval...that is, to become a martyr by killing.

He may have been baptized, but it's clear he wasn't a Christian.

27 posted on 07/30/2006 3:32:32 PM PDT by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: CindyDawg
Jews are not a Christian's enemy. Christians are not a Jew' enemy. He told us what he is. Why don't we believe him?

Because the Left has allied themselves with Islam...and they have to grasp at every possible straw to protect their murderous allies. Truth is immaterial to the end purpose of not revealing Islam for the death cult it is.

28 posted on 07/30/2006 3:34:28 PM PDT by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: CindyDawg
......He told us what he is. Why don't we believe him?

I believe him. He's a muslime murderer. He admitted it when he started shooting.
It's the MSM who has a problem with it.

29 posted on 07/30/2006 3:35:36 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: wideminded
He pretended to receive "Jesus" in order to bring Christians to Islam.

What is "kitman"?

In reality, the word kitman comes from the verb katama, which means to hide, to conceal.

As it appears from the different English equivalents of the word, it touches on so many aspects - some of which are good and others are bad.

Starting with the good aspects, we can say that a good type of kitman (concealment or hiding) is when you hide things still in process till they are complete. In our life, we may meet people who look with a malevolent eye to what we have, who are jealous that we have this and that, who are envious that we are blessed with this and that. Driven by their envy, hatred and dark intentions, they may plot for us or weave some traps. In order to be saved from their traps, we should keep hush-hush on things that are still in preparation. To this type of hiding, kitman is the best policy. In this regard, the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, says in the hadith: “Seek fulfillment for things you want to finish inkitman.”

He himself gave the best example of such a type in the early days of Islam. When the number of Muslims was still small and the community was still weak, there was a big need for concealment or secret call (kitman) so as to save the cause of da`wah (inviting people to Islam) from the fierce enemies.

30 posted on 07/30/2006 3:40:25 PM PDT by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 29-34)
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To: tessalu

I think it must be hard to leave Islam emotionally. Although a friend of ours did, she's in our Bible Study. Went back home to Africa with the Jesus film to share with her family and friends. It must be really scary to convert if you live there, or in Europe or the ME.


31 posted on 07/30/2006 3:41:29 PM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: bboop

bttt


32 posted on 07/30/2006 3:45:09 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: wideminded
Shooting suspect was baptized

So what? So was Adolf Hitler.

33 posted on 07/30/2006 3:46:22 PM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help m)
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To: All

Add to his resume of a killer he was due in court in Benton County for exposing himself in public.

Maybe he was just trying to do as jihadists are 'suppose to and melting in with American Culture as seen on Nancy disGraces' CNN time slot.


34 posted on 07/30/2006 3:50:22 PM PDT by Global2010 (Show me da paw Ya'll)
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To: Alouette

Thanks for the info...bump


35 posted on 07/30/2006 3:50:25 PM PDT by processing please hold (If you can't stand behind our military, stand in front of them.)
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To: BigFinn

>The seed fell on some hard, rocky ground, withered and died.<


Yes. The hard, rocky ground was his Muslim foundation. There is no excuse for what he did. Now the PI is making a victim out of him, taking the opportunity to blame Christianity.


36 posted on 07/30/2006 3:54:03 PM PDT by Paperdoll (.........on the cutting edge)
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To: wideminded

I believe it's called being a LOSER.


37 posted on 07/30/2006 3:57:15 PM PDT by Shimmer128 (I see dumb people, they're everywhere. They don't even know they're dumb.)
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To: All
The murderer declared himself an angry Muslim.

Again I wonder why a white supremacist organization's public messages were held civilly responsible for influencing the murderers of an African immigrant and now nary a word about radical Islam, CAIR, et al. messages.

Flummoxed in California

And why no drive-by media hysteria about "lone wolves?"

Really flummoxed in California

38 posted on 07/30/2006 4:00:07 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Diddle E. Squat

I guess the fact he screamed out that he was a muslim american as he shot his victims doesn't mean anything, right?


39 posted on 07/30/2006 4:14:55 PM PDT by calex59 (The '86 amnesty put us in the toilet, now the senate wants to flush it!)
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To: calex59

How about taking a look at post 80 of the earlier thread I linked to in post 9.


40 posted on 07/30/2006 4:26:00 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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