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Condi in Diplomatic Disneyland
Time ^ | Wednesday, Jul. 26, 2006 | Tony Karon

Posted on 07/31/2006 6:44:58 AM PDT by A. Pole

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1 posted on 07/31/2006 6:44:59 AM PDT by A. Pole
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To: A. Pole
"The Secretary of State tells the Lebanese that the blood they're seeing represents the birth of a brave new order. She's convincing nobody" ----

Where is the BARF ALERT?

2 posted on 07/31/2006 6:46:44 AM PDT by beyond the sea (The truth exists even when it is ignored.)
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To: ninenot; sittnick; steve50; Hegemony Cricket; Willie Green; Wolfie; ex-snook; FITZ; arete; ...
Arab leaders, moreover, have learned to be suspicious of Rice's revolutionary ambitions — just a year ago, she spoke of spreading "creative chaos" in the region.

ME bump

3 posted on 07/31/2006 6:46:54 AM PDT by A. Pole ("Gay marriage" - Karl Rove's conspiracy to defeat Democrats?)
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To: A. Pole
'...and turned more than a half million into refugees '

In Israel make that a round million.
Time can go to hell, it's written by sophomoric do-gooders.
4 posted on 07/31/2006 6:49:46 AM PDT by Sarah
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To: beyond the sea

State is only marginally pro-Israel, which will eventually turn into benign neglect with the diminishment of Bush's admin. I'm just itching to hear what Dershowitz has to say about this.


5 posted on 07/31/2006 6:52:38 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: beyond the sea

So you agree with her?

Obviously the ME is a relatively new region to be settled by humans and that not a lot of history has come before so I suppose that is her premise?


6 posted on 07/31/2006 6:55:58 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (War is Peace__Freedom is Slavery__Ignorance is Strength)
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To: Sarah

Geez, I thought Hezbollah started this mess. Now Time thinks its our problem. Peronally, I have no problem with a country defending itself. Maybe if Time would like to ask why the Lebonese can't control their own teritory or their own foriegn policy, they might be getting to the truth. Am I to conclude from Time's deep thoughts, that terrorist can make war against civilians but states are not permitted to strike terrorist among civilians? Remember, Time is headquartered in NYC, and as I recall 3,000 civilians were murdered in Manhattan. Is it Times position that killing people who murder civilians as their only tactic is bad? Save us from the special elite who back down to any bully they meet. Could not one news media hire a man with a set of balls?


7 posted on 07/31/2006 6:56:02 AM PDT by tigtog
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I appreciate this young lady. I hope she is not in over her head.

****


8 posted on 07/31/2006 6:56:59 AM PDT by beyond the sea (The truth exists even when it is ignored.)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
Obviously the ME is a relatively new region to be settled by humans

(Love your sarcasm)

The "humans" from that region don't impress me one bit.......... all of them.

They all will be the reason for the demise of millions and millions of innocent folks eventually.

(jmo)

9 posted on 07/31/2006 7:00:40 AM PDT by beyond the sea (The truth exists even when it is ignored.)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.

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10 posted on 07/31/2006 7:02:13 AM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do!)
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To: beyond the sea

HUmans on all continents and every nation, faith and race have been victims of cults. Is steals their humanity.

Pre-Islam, the ME produced agriculture, writing and 2 of the worlds great religions and an almost infinite list of other things.

There is nothing wrong with the genetic stock. It is the moon-God cult that has destroyed what is ultimately a creative and capable people(s). The cult will need to be destroyed to reawaken them.


11 posted on 07/31/2006 7:08:58 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (War is Peace__Freedom is Slavery__Ignorance is Strength)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
the moon-God cult

????

12 posted on 07/31/2006 7:10:00 AM PDT by beyond the sea (The truth exists even when it is ignored.)
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Critics have long warned that by refusing on principle to talk to the likes of Iran, Syria, Hamas and Hizballah, the U.S. is restricting its own ability to influence events in a region where those regimes and organizations represent a significant force

I would call this the "Jimmy Carter Syndrome".
It's a type of insanity.

13 posted on 07/31/2006 7:11:44 AM PDT by oldbrowser (Good news is no news.)
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To: A. Pole

You don't negotiate with people who are sending missiles into your back yard. You root them out.

Hezbollah is not an otherwise good neighbor who has the unfortunate habit of occasionally firing off a missile, it is a war-fighting organization that has as its goal, war. It doesn't even represent the people it pretends to represent, it is a war-fighting front for Syria and Iran. You don't negotiate with a sock-puppet. You don't negotiate with the people who are killing your wives and children.

I suppose you could ask them what they want, but when what they want is you, dead, that should tell you what you have to do. Get to them before they do you.

Rice and Bush were right to insist that there be no cease-fire that doesn't include the disarming of Hezbollah, which is in essence to demand their surrender as a war-fighting organization. They can choose to survive as a purely political organization, or not at all.

The worst mistake any of us can make, and I fear we will make it, will be to find some "solution" that leaves Hezbollah armed inside of Lebanon. Such a solution guarantees that war continues, and worse than before. The interjection of a peace-keeping force without disarming Hezbollah actually makes things worse; Hezbollah has no problem sailing a missile over the heads of the peace-keepers, but Israel will have to go through the peace-keepers to get at them.


14 posted on 07/31/2006 7:11:59 AM PDT by marron
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I have no problem with a country defending itself.

Tell that to our government, because right now we are acting like we want Israel to stop, up to and including diplomatic pressure, and I don't like it at all. There are many Republicans who are jumping on this bandwagon, and it's sickening - if rebels in Mexico were firing 100+ rockets a day into the US, you can damn sure bet that we would not listen to any countries who tried to give us time limits on when and how to deal with the situation.
15 posted on 07/31/2006 7:13:47 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: beyond the sea

Should have been a small "g".

But if you really have a question on it, Allah is a moon-god.

The meteorite they worship may well be from the moon. Fairly common reference around here. Here is a link:

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/moongod.htm

and a refutation which is not all that convincing:

http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Sources/Allah/moongod.html

All in all, a fun way to belittle Islam.


16 posted on 07/31/2006 7:18:53 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (War is Peace__Freedom is Slavery__Ignorance is Strength)
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To: SJackson

Viewpoint: The Secretary of State tells the Lebanese that the blood they're seeing represents the birth of a brave new order. She's convincing nobody

The fact is she COULD be correct.


17 posted on 07/31/2006 7:28:32 AM PDT by Valin (http://www.irey.com/)
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To: beyond the sea
My friend all you need to see is "Time" and that should provide the clue that you'll need a large size heafty bag handy.
18 posted on 07/31/2006 7:31:04 AM PDT by Valin (http://www.irey.com/)
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To: A. Pole; Convert from ECUSA; SJackson

Another example of Pro-Islamist propaganda from the Western Liberal-Socialist media.

This "Israel is guilty of inflaming Middle Eastern tensions" line for fighting back the Islamic enemies who want to annihilate Israel is not only ludicrous, but also boring.


19 posted on 07/31/2006 8:21:00 AM PDT by sergey1973
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Condi needs to go, AND NOW.

She wouldn't listen to Abbas who kept warning her that they needed more time before the Palestinian elections, or Hamas would win. Then, she acted surprised at Hamas victory.

Today, Michael Aoun, a Lebanese Maronite Chritian leader, tells us, in a Wall Street Journal editorial, that he kept warning the U.S. to press for changes in the Lebanese election laws (established by Syria) before elections were held in Lebanon, or the new government would lack a real popular mandate to actually rule. And again, we did not listen and again the 'ruling' authority with the responsibility to reign in a terrorist organization was weakened by the rush to "democracy" at any price and regardless of a good foundation for that democray first being established.

Condi must go.


20 posted on 07/31/2006 8:50:50 AM PDT by Wuli
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