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To: Paul Ross
While I have no doubts about Montaperto working for the ChiComms, we have known that China was selling C-802 missiles to Iran for some time, and that Iran passes such technology and weapons on to Hezbullah.

IMHO, it was a travesty that the IDF parked its most capable warship off the coast of Lebannon to protect its gunships who were shelling Lebaneze and Hezbullah targets from air attack, and then did not turn on their most powerful and capable anti-air defensive systems.

The IDF claims that their intelligence indicated that Hezbullah had no anit-shipping missiles of this caliber in Lebannon, but that is precisely what this ship is most capable of defending against. The fact that they were shelling targets in conjunction with attacks on Hezbullah, whom we know, and they knew, derived their principle technological weapons from Iran, whom we all know has the C-802 in their inventory, borders on dereliction in my estimation.

Just my opinion on the matter.

3 posted on 07/31/2006 10:41:09 AM PDT by Jeff Head (God, family, country)
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To: Jeff Head
The fact that they were shelling targets in conjunction with attacks on Hezbullah, whom we know, and they knew, derived their principle technological weapons from Iran, whom we all know has the C-802 in their inventory, borders on dereliction in my estimation.

Agreed. Very disconcerting. If there wasn't an air threat, then why not use an older obsolete gunboat to do any necessary shelling? The switching off of the air defense is just insane..."to protect their own pilots"? IFF is supposed to work...not just theoretically. And if it doesn't...its better to find out sooner rather than later.

This kind of timidity smacks of the worst of U.S. politically-constrained operations and the shackles of rules of engagement that cost us lives.

4 posted on 07/31/2006 10:48:32 AM PDT by Paul Ross (We cannot be for lawful ordinances and for an alien conspiracy at one and the same moment.-Cicero)
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To: Jeff Head; woodb01; Argus; TheDon; glorgau; pbrown; sittnick; Ingtar; WhiteGuy; Spirited; ...
While I have no doubts about Montaperto working for the ChiComms...we have known that China was selling C-802 missiles to Iran for some time, and that Iran passes such technology and weapons on to Hezbullah.

Bump. It kind of looks like the IDF had its own "China Blind-spot", Doesn't it?

This bears some emphasis. To what degree are these China operatives undermining not just intel, but operations? As we saw here, misleading and false intel either at input or more likely...internal handling...directly undermined IDF operations. How much more are our operations at risk?

E.g., The Chi-Comms are currently now stepping up their overt activity, as their covert manipulations of American opinion and decision-making apparatus (such as Montparto and his gang, etc.) are detected by the Good Guys and glacial-slow action action taken to dismantle their influence operations. Here was a relevant story that needs watching:

July 14, 2006

Damage assessment
Congress has been asked to conduct a damage assessment of the intelligence compromise caused by former Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) analyst Ronald N. Montaperto, who pleaded guilty last month to illegally retaining classified information and who told investigators he passed secrets to China.

"I am deeply concerned about the damage that has been done by Ronald N. Montaperto to our country's formulation and implementation of foreign policy related to the People's Republic of China [PRC]," said Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, California Republican and chairman of the House International Relations oversight and investigations subcommittee.

Mr. Rohrabacher stated in a letter to David M. Walker, the chief of the Government Accountability Office (GAO), that the agency should check policy documents that were "prepared and influenced" by Montaperto and that affected U.S. policy toward China.

The July 6 letter also asked GAO to investigate propaganda themes Montaperto supported throughout his career in speeches, scholarly work and conference roles.

Montaperto was a senior China analyst at DIA who came under suspicion of being a Chinese spy in 1991 but who continued to hold a security clearance at the National Defense University and U.S. Pacific Command until his dismissal in 2004.

"In addition, I need to know whether he was in a position of authority that enabled him to hire and/or fire employees whose views concerning the PRC differed from his," Mr. Rohrabacher stated, noting that the review should include Montaperto's role in analysis of Chinese intentions.

The report was requested "as soon as possible" in both classified and unclassified forms.

According to court papers, Montaperto admitted during a ruse by FBI and Naval Criminal Investigative Service agents that he passed top-secret information to Chinese military intelligence officer Yu Zenghe.

Friends of Montaperto in the U.S. intelligence and policy communities have sought to defend the former analyst and have criticized the FBI. One of the supporters, Lonnie Henley, deputy national intelligence officer for East Asia, recently defended Montaperto in an e-mail and as a result has come under scrutiny by the office of Director of National Intelligence John D. Negroponte.


14 posted on 08/01/2006 3:54:58 AM PDT by Paul Ross (We cannot be for lawful ordinances and for an alien conspiracy at one and the same moment.-Cicero)
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