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Charlie Crist Let My Daughter Die
Human Events ^ | July 31, 2006 | Robert Schindler Sr.

Posted on 07/31/2006 4:58:07 PM PDT by Quiet Man Jr.

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To: 8mmMauser

Mikey and Charlie both have that creep factor going on. At some point, people will see there are underlying reasons for it.


1,401 posted on 09/03/2006 5:44:33 AM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org GALLAGHER & CRIST IMPORTANT STUFF)
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To: 8mmMauser; tutstar; cyn

See 1365


1,402 posted on 09/03/2006 5:45:22 AM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org GALLAGHER & CRIST IMPORTANT STUFF)
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To: 8mmMauser; T'wit
When campaigns are over, we need to develop a list of states or a map that shows safe states vs. euthanasia states. 1. FLORIDA euthanasia state 2. TEXAS euthanasia state 3. NEBRASKA euthanaia state

Any safe states out there for patients that have protections in their laws instead of conflicting statutes (Florida)?

1,403 posted on 09/03/2006 5:48:01 AM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org GALLAGHER & CRIST IMPORTANT STUFF)
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To: 8mmMauser

Dr. Linda "Don't bother me. I'm over here trying to carry out a medical decision." (murder).


1,404 posted on 09/03/2006 5:49:56 AM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org GALLAGHER & CRIST IMPORTANT STUFF)
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To: 8mmMauser

Several posters told of the enormous comfort to parents and family to have the child, even if only momentarily. I can add a story like that from my family. My nephew's wife had a very difficult pregnancy -- with triplets! To save her life, they had to induce birth at about six months. She had three boys, none as large as two pounds. One was not developed enough to have any chance. He lived only an hour, cuddled in my nephew's arms. The other two babies scraped through... barely, with months of intensive care. They are now robust, healthy teens. To the family, they are still triplets who fondly remember and honor their lost brother. Three trees are planted for them, and lovingly tended by the boys themselves, at a family home in the northwoods.


1,405 posted on 09/03/2006 5:54:35 AM PDT by T'wit (It is not possible to "go too far" criticizing liberals. No matter what you say, they're worse.)
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To: T'wit
Remember in 2004 the City of St. Pete rose up in arms against a planned Suicide on Stage by a heavy metal band? The Suicide on Stage was condemned throughout the County. Mayor Rick Baker condemned it, Judge Lendermann outlawed it, and the list of condemnations went on and on.

Suicide on Stage was so distasteful but starving/dehydrating Terri was the right thing to do because everybody is beholding to Mr. GOP Mel Sembler (son is Crist's campaign manager). For some reason, the Counter-Republicans all wanted Terri dead. That's what I'd like to find out. Why do Michael Schiavo so many favors, big favors, lawbreaking favors and the Sheriff hires him to boot.

What does Michael Schiavo have on Florida's Republican Party that would lead them to take the life of Terri Schindler Schiavo? Or, what does George Felos have on Florida's Counter-Republicans?

1,406 posted on 09/03/2006 5:54:55 AM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org GALLAGHER & CRIST IMPORTANT STUFF)
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To: T'wit

Counter-Republicans is a new twist on RINOS which I'm sick of repeating. John McCain and Charlie Crist are Counter-Republicans.


1,407 posted on 09/03/2006 5:57:16 AM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org GALLAGHER & CRIST IMPORTANT STUFF)
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To: All; floriduh voter
Ping to my new thread on Sugar and Crist...

Sugar-Laced Agency Airs Acrid Gallagher Ad

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1,408 posted on 09/03/2006 5:57:57 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam Tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser

Crist is a secularist by his actions. I believe the Greeks invented the word "euthanasia". He's Greek. He's not pro-life.


1,409 posted on 09/03/2006 5:59:21 AM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org GALLAGHER & CRIST IMPORTANT STUFF)
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To: floriduh voter

"Prolife" has become a meaningless term in American politics because prolifers have allowed it to become meaningless. They just believe everything "prolife" politicians tell them.


1,410 posted on 09/03/2006 6:07:03 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Cowardice is forever!)
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To: 8mmMauser
What Happened to Terri, the Truth: an opinion based upon fact and first hand knowledge by a friend

"...But one day I trust you will set aside the impressions programmed into you by media accounts and/or even your friends in the law here in Pinellas county, and develop an independent curiosity about these matters. She was NOT brain dead. That is a fraud constructed by a judge intent on killing.

Terri Schindler Schiavo was an aware of self human being who could laugh and cry and to the limits of her severely injured abilities, she could talk. The woman loved ice cream, and loved her father's jokes, and her mother's voice. Terri Schindler Schiavo screamed for her life. What happened here was a homicide.

...What happened here was no less evil than murders committed under color of law you investigated for so many years. You do remember, in another time, killers came first for the weak and disabled. What happened here had nothing to do with right to life or right to die; nothing to do with government intruding into private family decisions. This was about a husband's need to dispose of an inconvenient wife; it was about government exploiting that husband, using this case to establish a precedent for "futile care" disposal of worthless human flesh. And to accomplish that purpose, politically connected people here successfully crafted "designer legislation" as an outgrowth of the governor's 1999 commission on death and dying.

It was about an attorney general.... and state attorney shutting down a investigation of issues on several potential felony criminal fronts. This was about what was to have been a most of a million dollar easy payday for lawyers hired to kill."

FV SAYS: Charlie Crist Let Terri Schiavo Die. It always comes back to his violation of his oath of office. This was an email sent to me and more materials regarding Charlie Crist have been emailed to me by someone else. I won't post that email only after close scrutiny because it is in the form of an Affidavit. FV

1,411 posted on 09/03/2006 6:52:08 AM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org GALLAGHER & CRIST IMPORTANT STUFF)
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To: All; floriduh voter; Lesforlife
Meanwhile the Dr. Linda story is growing legs. Ping to a thread by LesforLife...

FLORIDA GOVERNOR CANDIDATE CRIST'S DEATH CULT FOLLOWERS
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1,412 posted on 09/03/2006 7:24:26 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam Tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: floriduh voter
>> For some reason, the Counter-Republicans all wanted Terri dead. That's what I'd like to find out.

I don't know if this will help much, but it was a pack hunt. Liberals do everything in packs. Being a member of the pack -- clique -- and picking up all the signals and vibrations from the group replaces individual thinking for them. They don't have to think at all, just listen to the current line, most often from the media. There is no give or take, no contemplation, no doubting any point of the party line, no listening to other points of view, no cheerful forum talk. They all make the same case for the cause du jour, and the mode for it is always sullen and combative.

Grown up discussions are not like this at all. Grown-ups have doubts and don't pretend to know everything. They don't think with templates. They can talk it out. If they learn more facts, they can change their view.

If your goal is to find the truth, discuss the case with open-minded grown-ups. If your goal is to obfuscate the truth, join a pack of groupthinkers.

1,413 posted on 09/03/2006 9:05:51 AM PDT by T'wit (It is not possible to "go too far" criticizing liberals. No matter what you say, they're worse.)
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To: T'wit
http://conservative-spirit.org/

Cronyism, nepotism, liberalism, corruption. Do we really want more of the same? I know I don't. TOM GALLAGHER FOR GOVERNOR!

http://www.tg2006.com/

1,414 posted on 09/03/2006 9:16:51 AM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org GALLAGHER & CRIST IMPORTANT STUFF)
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To: All; floriduh voter; Recovering_Democrat
Ping to this thread...

"Sorry Charlie" Anti-Crist Signs at Florida Debate

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1,415 posted on 09/03/2006 9:20:50 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam Tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser

The winds over there blow from down to up.


1,416 posted on 09/03/2006 6:22:48 PM PDT by T'wit (It is not possible to "go too far" criticizing liberals. No matter what you say, they're worse.)
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To: 8mmMauser
PLEASE FREEPMAIL, POST ON THE NET AND EMAIL THIS EVERYWHERE! Thanks, FV

MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 4, 2006

From: TOM GALLAGHER CAMPAIGN

Brett Doster, Campaign Manager

FINAL DAY BEFORE THE ELECTION: THE CHOICE IS CLEAR

Gallagher Team,

This is an important day. We have approximately 20 hours before the polls open in what is shaping up to be one of the most important primary elections of our time. There is a lot to think about this Labor Day weekend. People are going to be taking time away to be with their families, enjoy some football, and get some rest.

However, while you are spending time with your families, remember that tomorrow will be an important time for your families as well. Voters will face a clear choice as to whether to continue on the conservative path blazed by Governor Jeb Bush or to choose a more liberal path blazed by the likes of Howard Dean and John Kerry. Remember as you make that choice that our Party will not be made stronger by seeking détente with the Democrats on issues that will define who we are as a society. The choice is clear.

Tom Gallagher will protect our economic strength by not raising taxes, and he will take leadership on the homeowners’ insurance crisis. Tom Gallagher will work with Congress to protect our borders and stop the flow of illegal immigration that threatens our security. And Tom Gallagher will protect our families by defending traditional marriage and the unborn.

Charlie Crist has broken ranks with conservative leaders and endorsed the liberal Democrat class-size amendment that was part of Bill McBride’s education plan and which even Jeb Bush has said will raise your taxes. Charlie Crist has irresponsibly endorsed the Senate Immigration Plan which provides illegal immigrants with amnesty before our borders are secured. Charlie Crist supports the Howard Dean plan of civil union-style gay marriage. And Charlie Crist is pro-choice.

Please urge your friends, neighbors, and family to turn out tomorrow and support Tom Gallagher for Governor. The future of our state and the future of our Party will depend upon your actions.

Thank you so much for your ongoing support, and we look forward to campaigning with you in the general election.

1,417 posted on 09/04/2006 9:27:09 AM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org GALLAGHER & CRIST IMPORTANT STUFF)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; Abby4116; Alissa; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; ...
Haleigh Poutre Update...

The update is now getting some traction with an article by Steven Eltert of Life News.

Boston, MA (LifeNews.com) -- Haleigh Poutre was the victim of child abuse and was nearly killed via euthanasia when Massachusetts officials gave up on her after she entered a coma. Now Poutre, once termed "brain dead" by doctors, continues to improve and is speaking a few words, her grandmother says.

Sandra Sudyka, the girl's biological grandmother, is no longer allowed to visit her granddaughter and now says she is ready to speak to the media about Poutre's condition.

Haleigh Poutre Almost Victim of Euthanasia, Now Making Good Progress

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1,418 posted on 09/05/2006 3:29:36 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam Tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; T'wit
Ramesh Ponnuru writed for the National Review Online...

Rauch writes that I don’t explain whether I think women should get jail terms for seeking abortions, instead “mumbling that ‘the pro-life movement’ does not necessarily seek jail time for women and that fining doctors and revoking medical licenses might suffice.” Continuing in the same vein, Rauch asks whether I would punish the discarding or destroying of embryos as first-degree murder. And: If human life is “inviolable,” then why should it matter whether a hopelessly vegetative patient — someone like Terri Schiavo — left instructions not to be fed? Surely, from Ponnuru’s perspective, the doctors caring for her cannot ethically conspire to starve her to death even if she would prefer to die. If every abortion is infanticide, could even the most life-threatening pregnancy be ended? We don’t have a “health exception” to the murder laws.

Excluded Middles

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1,419 posted on 09/05/2006 3:41:42 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam Tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All
I am really for Terry and all that, but..........

First clue to bias is the misspelling of Terri's name. Sounds like a seminar caller to Rush...

Once in a while I try to read something that has the stack decked against it in my head. In one of the biggest Right-To-Life cases of the past few years, the death of Terry Schiavo, my mind is at best riding the fence, and my opinions skew from both sides to something in the middle. That's why I to read Fighting For Dear Life (copyright 2006, Bethany House), by David Gibbs, the attorney for Terry's parents. But I'm still skewed.

Review - Fighting For Dear Life by David Gibbs

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1,420 posted on 09/05/2006 3:47:46 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam Tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; floriduh voter
Today is the primary in Florida...

Sept. 4 - Gov. Jeb Bush is leaving office after eight years, and Florida voters will take the first step Tuesday in deciding whether they want to elect someone who shares his values or a governor who will seek to dismantle some of the Republican's key programs. It's a race that all the candidates say could be a bellwether for the 2008 presidential election, saying that as Florida goes, so goes the nation. It's also an opportunity for the state's once-dominant Democratic Party to quickly get back some of the power it has lost in recent years.

As Gov. Bush Leaves Office, Florida Must Decide State's Direction

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1,421 posted on 09/05/2006 3:52:13 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam Tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser
>> Avrett, Poutre's biological mother, lost custody of her daughter after physically abusing her.

I don't believe this. At the least, it needs investigation. It was the abusive half-sister, Holli Strickland, who reported Avrett to the DSS for the alleged abuse. As nearly as one can tell, she simply stole Haleigh from Avrett. God alone knows why; given the later abuse, Strickland obviously hated the child. The DSS gave custody to Strickland, the accuser. (Strickland clearly had an "in" with the DSS and was expert at manipulating their agencies, but that's a story for another day.) In Strickland's custody, Haleigh was starved, burned with cigarettes and beaten nearly to death.

1,422 posted on 09/05/2006 4:05:03 AM PDT by T'wit (It is not possible to "go too far" criticizing liberals. No matter what you say, they're worse.)
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To: 8mmMauser
Sounds like a naif to me. It never occurs to the writer that it is illegal as well as morally obnoxious to kill a conscious person, even in Florida. The law specifies that the person to be killed must be irreversibly comatose, utterly unaware, and may feel no pain. Gibbs made the case that Terri was responsive and "in there." It was murder to kill her, and murder by the most cruel and inhumane means imaginable.
1,423 posted on 09/05/2006 4:12:39 AM PDT by T'wit (It is not possible to "go too far" criticizing liberals. No matter what you say, they're worse.)
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To: 8mmMauser
Just to read the headline is to fight the urge to regurge. Of the four candidates, only one has reasonably conservative credentials, and his candidacy is probably going to fail. That leaves three who would cheerfully undo the Jeb Bush legacy. The media will sing and dance and crow about "new directions" for Florida, but all they're getting is soiled politicians with bad policy plans.
1,424 posted on 09/05/2006 4:22:54 AM PDT by T'wit (It is not possible to "go too far" criticizing liberals. No matter what you say, they're worse.)
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To: T'wit

BTTT


1,425 posted on 09/05/2006 4:56:02 AM PDT by Unicorn (Too many wimps around.)
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To: DustyMoment

bttt


1,426 posted on 09/05/2006 6:03:45 AM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org GALLAGHER & CRIST IMPORTANT STUFF)
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To: 8mmMauser

Glad to hear Haleigh's condition is improving!!


1,427 posted on 09/05/2006 6:08:11 AM PDT by syriacus (Why wasn't each home in New Orleans required to have an inflatable life boat?)
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To: T'wit
It never occurs to the writer that it is illegal as well as morally obnoxious to kill a conscious person, even in Florida.

The writer also complains that David Gibbs seems to demonize Michael, when if Gibb's description of his interaction with Terri is even remotely truthful that would imply that Michael Schiavo et al. knowingly subjected a concious person to a death so horrible as to make burning at the stake seem pleasant by comparison.

If David Gibbs' statements about Terri are accurate, how could he possibly not regard Michael Schiavo et al. as evil?

1,428 posted on 09/05/2006 3:59:24 PM PDT by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: supercat
I finished reading Gibbs's book myself and did a capsule review at #1367. I don't agree with that Amazon(?) writer; it didn't strike me at all that Gibbs was demonizing Michael Schiavo. He was at his best with his eyewitness affirmation that Terri was vibrantly alive and "in there," despite her injuries. Gibbs didn't offer any theories of how she was injured (I would!), just said he'd heard a lot of them. Didn't mention the many instances of MS's meanness we have all heard about here, nor the incidents reported by Carla Iyer. Gibbs is an explicitly Christian writer and referred to MS only (or mainly) in terms of un-Christian behavior -- the long medical neglect and the adultery with Jodi. But on the whole, Gibbs wrote about Terri, not about MS.
1,429 posted on 09/05/2006 5:56:10 PM PDT by T'wit (It is not possible to "go too far" criticizing liberals. No matter what you say, they're worse.)
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1,430 posted on 09/06/2006 12:04:34 PM PDT by BykrBayb ("We will not be silent. We are your bad conscience. The White Rose will give you no rest." )
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1,431 posted on 09/06/2006 11:18:38 PM PDT by T'wit (It is not possible to "go too far" criticizing liberals. No matter what you say, they're worse.)
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Investigators Find Bone Fragments Believed to Be From Body of Ohio Foster Child

Investigators recovered 18 bone fragments near an old chimney where investigators believe the body of a developmentally disabled 3-year-old foster child was burned, a county coroner said Thursday.

1,432 posted on 09/07/2006 2:51:30 PM PDT by BykrBayb ("We will not be silent. We are your bad conscience. The White Rose will give you no rest." )
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To: TheSarce

Ping. Crist should not be VP. Ever.


1,433 posted on 02/28/2008 12:38:49 PM PST by floriduh voter (FL Gov. Crist "This is America. I can wear whatever I want. I believe in freedom." You go, girl.)
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To: tutstar

IMO, Jeb Bush’s attorney tipped off Felos and hospice that a team was coming to rescue Terri. Ken Connor.


1,434 posted on 02/28/2008 12:40:06 PM PST by floriduh voter (FL Gov. Crist "This is America. I can wear whatever I want. I believe in freedom." You go, girl.)
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