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Charlie Crist Let My Daughter Die
Human Events ^ | July 31, 2006 | Robert Schindler Sr.

Posted on 07/31/2006 4:58:07 PM PDT by Quiet Man Jr.

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To: Palladin
Crist was involved in Terri's death. See my last post because there are posters who are trying to give Crist a pass. He gets no pass from me.

As governor, what will he do? Will he look the other way the next time a husband wants his wife dead so he can marry the woman who had his illegitimate children?

Have you ever noticed that Crist resembles Dr. Kevorkian? He might as well act like him since CRIST only values the lives of teachers, developers, the death lobby, and the AARP.

151 posted on 08/06/2006 8:10:28 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org Tom Gallagher 4 Guv, the ONLY Conservative in the Race)
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To: Theodore R.
John O'Hurley - Mr. Peterman from Sienfeld??


152 posted on 08/06/2006 8:14:46 PM PDT by Hildy (To save us both time, assume I know everything...)
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To: Quiet Man Jr.; Twirly Bird
Under the Florida Statutes, adultery is a grounds for dismissal of a guardian on the spot but corruption runs deep in Pinellas County. Michael Schiavo should not have been allowed to possess Terri as if she were property. That is the kind of marriages they have in radical islam.

It is ignorant when posters give Michael way too many rights for being a bad husband. "One man had the legal authority to make the decisions related to Teri's life and that man was her husband."

There were plenty of others willing to take over the guardianship who would have provided the rehabilitation and love that Terri needed but was denied.

The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away. NOT Judge Greer, Sheriff Rice, State Attorney Bernie McCabe, not Charlie Crist, not Judge Whittemore, not George Felos, Debra Bushnell, Ham Baskin, et al, the ACLU, not Howard Dean either. Not scheming democrats and misquided republicans in name only!

It's time for Charlie Crist's social promotions to end. I'm afraid he's just getting warmed up. He's only going to help special interests and there are NO, I repeat NO photos of Charlie Crist with a person in a wheelchair. That speaks volumes about indifference. Volumes. fregards, FV

153 posted on 08/06/2006 8:18:57 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org Tom Gallagher 4 Guv, the ONLY Conservative in the Race)
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To: floriduh voter

NOT JUDGE DAVID DEMERS, NOT JUDGE W. DOUGLAS BAIRD, NOT JAY WOLFSON OR GINNIE BROWNE-WAIT either. They tooketh away and it was all based upon a LIE.


154 posted on 08/06/2006 8:22:14 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org Tom Gallagher 4 Guv, the ONLY Conservative in the Race)
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To: 8mmMauser; amdgmary
NO MORE SOCIAL PROMOTIONS FOR CHARLIE CRIST! He'll have to buy the book: "Dummies Handbook for Governors".

Page One. "you have to get beyond hello."

Page Two. go to the dictionary and look up "constituents". That would be all the people you don't care about.

155 posted on 08/06/2006 8:34:33 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org Tom Gallagher 4 Guv, the ONLY Conservative in the Race)
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To: 8mmMauser
POSITIVE MEDIA SHOULD READ "propagandist media". That's all it is.

Tom Gallagher for Governor. I need to check my email and see what's going on...

I REPEAT: Judge Greer hearing in PENSACOLA on August 18th by the FEC. CALL THE FEC TO GET MORE INFO ON THE HEARING...

If we have anyone in Pensacola, they should attend the hearing and they'll get to see Greer's tv commercial and watch him explain how he pulled it off, you know breaking the law like that.

156 posted on 08/06/2006 8:37:38 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org Tom Gallagher 4 Guv, the ONLY Conservative in the Race)
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To: pray4liberty

I think he's an atheist so won't he be surprised when he gets there...


157 posted on 08/06/2006 8:38:23 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org Tom Gallagher 4 Guv, the ONLY Conservative in the Race)
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To: 8mmMauser
PROBABLE CAUSE HEARING JUDGE GREER re: 2004 TV commercial:

August 17th at 4:00 pm est - 555 W. Pensacola St. Tallahassee.

Crist called J. Greer a hero after Terri Schiavo died from no water or nutrition for 13 days thanks to Greer.

158 posted on 08/06/2006 9:12:16 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org Tom Gallagher 4 Guv, the ONLY Conservative in the Race)
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To: southernnorthcarolina

It would be impossible to out flame Cindy Sheehan. Not even Pat Robertson could do that.


159 posted on 08/06/2006 9:15:28 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; Abby4116; Alissa; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; ...
Ping to #141 on Crist and also on Crist's friend Judge George Greer, post #158. A hearing is coming up. I am amazed.

8mm


160 posted on 08/07/2006 2:49:41 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam Tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All
Terri continues as a factor in politics in Florida and elsewhere...

As he travels the state in the month leading up to the Sept. 5 primary, Davis highlights a clutch of hotter issues from his nearly 10 years in the House, often his leadership in the congressional battles over Terri Schiavo and offshore drilling.

His rival in the Democratic primary, state Sen. Rod Smith, paints Davis more as a patron of lost causes. Over Davis' objections, the House voted to send Schiavo's case to federal court and passed an offshore drilling bill in June that awaits final negotiations with the Senate.

Davis has diverse record from time at the Capitol

8mm

161 posted on 08/07/2006 2:52:46 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam Tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All
TALLAHASSEE -- In six short years in the Florida Legislature, Rod Smith developed into a go-to guy on critical legislation affecting everything from schools to the court system to the controversy over Terri Schiavo.

His rapid rise in the state Senate was not surprising given that Smith is bright -- he served as an adjunct professor at the University of Florida College of Law. As a glib-tongued trial lawyer, he starred in floor debates. And he arrived with the reputation of being one of the state's top prosecutors, having sent Gainesville serial killer Danny Rolling to Death Row.

Smith says working with GOP is key to success

8mm

162 posted on 08/07/2006 2:55:19 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam Tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All
Davis and Smith both want to increase teachers' salaries in the state, de-emphasize the FCAT and keep class sizes small.

Both also favor creating a paper trail for voters so they know their votes have been counted. They vow to increase stem cell research and talk about their efforts in fighting the Republicans who injected themselves into the Terri Schiavo controversy.

Many Dems still undecided on nominee for governor

8mm

163 posted on 08/07/2006 2:57:41 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam Tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; Happy Valley Dude; floriduh voter
Ping to another thread on Crist by Happy Valley Dude

Voters leaning Crist, Davis (FL Governor)

8mm

164 posted on 08/07/2006 4:26:39 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam Tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: floriduh voter
The state may seem to run on time so to speak, but Tallahassee is a mess. I believe Jeb knows it and he's getting while the getting's good.

*************

I understood that he has no choice due to term limits.

165 posted on 08/07/2006 5:24:46 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: floriduh voter; 8mmMauser

Great news about the Greer hearing!!


166 posted on 08/07/2006 6:07:13 AM PDT by syriacus (It's a small world after all. I'd rather have Israelis as neighbors than have Hizb'allah as neigbors)
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To: syriacus

BTTT


167 posted on 08/07/2006 6:15:22 AM PDT by Unicorn (Too many wimps around.)
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To: 8mmMauser
CA: My Final Roller Coaster Ride - Ray Haynes

"In addition, the (California) Legislature will have at least one bill, perhaps more, that addresses how we will deal with the health care costs of old people and the disabled. It is a unique solution for the United States. The last country to use this method was Nazi Germany. The current proposal in the Legislature is called the “Compassionate Care Act” and purports to help make it easier for the old and disabled to make “end of life” decisions. Where I come from, we say we are going to kill them off, but I guess I just understand the nuances of the English language.

Then there’s single payer universal health care. That’s “pretty speak” for socialized medicine. Maybe we won’t need a bill to help old people and the disabled kill themselves, we’ll just enact universal health care and kill them off by not providing them with any health care. "

168 posted on 08/07/2006 11:07:23 AM PDT by IntelliQuark
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To: 8mmMauser

Adding to my previous post on a CA bill.

Here is more info and full text of the CA "Compassionate Choices Act" (official title) It's AB 651

http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/postquery?bill_number=ab_651&sess=CUR&house=B&author=berg


169 posted on 08/07/2006 11:41:14 AM PDT by IntelliQuark
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To: pickyourpoison

bump for later


170 posted on 08/07/2006 11:59:54 AM PDT by pickyourpoison (" Laus Deo ")
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To: T'wit
These were clinical tests, which are substantially more reliable than an autopsy finding. If Dr. Thogmartin is correct that Terri was cortically blind, almost certainly the loss of her remaining vision was caused by the dehydration.

Yes even 'brain weight' Nelson said the only possible way to know if a patient is PVS is clinical, not autopsy. Thogmartin, on the other hand, seems oblivious to the effects of dehydration on the cortical cortex. It is the first to go when hydration or blood supply is generally lacking. This needs to be revisited by another examiner more competent in area of dehydration.

Remember, MANNER OF DEATH: UNKNOWN

171 posted on 08/07/2006 4:02:10 PM PDT by bjs1779
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To: syriacus

Somebody in the FEC is sick of this b.s. I think Florida's getting weary of interstate and out of state calls and emails about this GOP Judge Greer. He made the Republican Party look like a party of death. It's no longer just a democratic nuance because he killed Terri with gusto!


172 posted on 08/07/2006 5:09:18 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org Tom Gallagher 4 Guv, the ONLY Conservative in the Race)
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To: trisham
He said NO WAY about running for Senate too. I believe Jeb wants to do business with Latin America instead of being in politics at the moment.

There were so many coverups during his last term which I will remember more than the good that Jeb did.

I'm not just referring to Terri either.

173 posted on 08/07/2006 5:16:25 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org Tom Gallagher 4 Guv, the ONLY Conservative in the Race)
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To: Quiet Man Jr.

Praying that Floridians will wake up and get rid of Crist, and that he will only be the beginning!


174 posted on 08/07/2006 5:22:53 PM PDT by trustandobey
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To: syriacus
If the FEC hearing is another hoax perpetrated upon the people of Florida, there will be a press release from the FEC because the cowards won't want to lie on camera that Greer's tv commercial was acceptable because it was illegal per the judicial canons and other Florida Statutes regarding co-mingling of agencies and agency property. If it's one thing Greer is good at it is co-mingling.

http://www.judgegeorgegreer.com/

175 posted on 08/07/2006 6:06:04 PM PDT by floriduh voter (END THE SOCIAL PROMOTION OF CHARLIE CRIST * Vote Gallagher 4 Fla Guv)
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To: DustyMoment
Terri is mentioned every day somewhere. Maybe her legacy is to sort out the good folks from the bad. Rod Smith wants to reach out to GOP. Would that be the democrat part of the GOP or the republican part?

http://heraldtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060807/NEWS/608070319

176 posted on 08/07/2006 6:14:00 PM PDT by floriduh voter (END THE SOCIAL PROMOTION OF CHARLIE CRIST * Vote Gallagher 4 Fla Guv)
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To: Hildy

he could be kevorkian's nephew. Crist only eats once a day and he's a poor tipper.


177 posted on 08/07/2006 6:16:28 PM PDT by floriduh voter (END THE SOCIAL PROMOTION OF CHARLIE CRIST * Vote Gallagher 4 Fla Guv)
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To: IntelliQuark
This country has reached a point where the elderly and the disabled are human shields for George Soros and his Death Project.

Death by committee has arrived.

178 posted on 08/07/2006 6:19:33 PM PDT by floriduh voter (END THE SOCIAL PROMOTION OF CHARLIE CRIST * Vote Gallagher 4 Fla Guv)
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To: bjs1779
Terri was bleeding from her eyes and nose. Certainly losing circulation in the eyes would affect someone's vision. And dehydration causes the eyes to sink back into the skull.

I still can't believe Florida did this to a human being. Florida is to blame.

179 posted on 08/07/2006 6:22:02 PM PDT by floriduh voter (END THE SOCIAL PROMOTION OF CHARLIE CRIST * Vote Gallagher 4 Fla Guv)
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To: bjs1779

At the press conference, the ME said death due to dehydration. Did his written report state "unknown"? The M.E. flip flopped.


180 posted on 08/07/2006 6:22:52 PM PDT by floriduh voter (END THE SOCIAL PROMOTION OF CHARLIE CRIST * Vote Gallagher 4 Fla Guv)
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To: BykrBayb

BB, Here's the August Dailies.


181 posted on 08/07/2006 6:28:38 PM PDT by floriduh voter (END THE SOCIAL PROMOTION OF CHARLIE CRIST * Vote Gallagher 4 Fla Guv)
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To: floriduh voter
At the press conference, the ME said death due to dehydration. Did his written report state "unknown"? The M.E. flip flopped.

There are two things they say. "Cause of Death" and "Manner of Death." He doesn't know how she ended up dead. If she got her neck sliced, it would be an aorta problem as cause of death. Who slit her throat is another matter.

182 posted on 08/07/2006 6:41:26 PM PDT by bjs1779
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To: bjs1779

Cause of death is dehydration. Everyone but the M.E. knows how she came to be dehydrated. I guess no one told him about the court order.


183 posted on 08/07/2006 6:44:09 PM PDT by BykrBayb ("We will not be silent. We are your bad conscience. The White Rose will give you no rest." )
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To: BykrBayb
Cause of death is dehydration.

The M.E. admitted that I think. 'Manner of Death' is still an open case.

184 posted on 08/07/2006 6:46:53 PM PDT by bjs1779
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To: bjs1779

It's no mystery. Manner of death was court ordered murder.


185 posted on 08/07/2006 6:49:45 PM PDT by BykrBayb ("We will not be silent. We are your bad conscience. The White Rose will give you no rest." )
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To: floriduh voter
Terri was bleeding from her eyes and nose.

You can't kill animal or humane any worse than what they did FV.

186 posted on 08/07/2006 6:50:41 PM PDT by bjs1779
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To: BykrBayb
Manner of death was court ordered murder.

By proxy, yes in a way. What I am getting at is who put Terri in a fragile state? That would be the manner of death if we could prove it.

187 posted on 08/07/2006 6:54:36 PM PDT by bjs1779
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To: floriduh voter

It would be wonderful to see the wall around Greer begin to crack.


188 posted on 08/07/2006 6:58:24 PM PDT by syriacus (It's a small world after all. I'd rather have Israelis as neighbors than have Hizb'allah as neigbors)
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To: bjs1779
Terri's death is the atrocity that won't go away.

The title of this thread is so true. I cannot support this man who told lie after lie to protect the status quo back in Pinellas Crony. Strike that. Pinellas County. (it gets confusing crony-county, what's the real difference here anyway?).

Tom Gallagher's web site: http://www.tg2006.com

189 posted on 08/07/2006 6:59:49 PM PDT by floriduh voter (END THE SOCIAL PROMOTION OF CHARLIE CRIST * Vote Gallagher 4 Fla Guv)
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To: floriduh voter
Terri's death is the atrocity that won't go away.

They know it, we know it.

190 posted on 08/07/2006 7:01:22 PM PDT by bjs1779
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To: bjs1779

That would be a contributing factor. It is what put her in a vulnerable state, though it was not the direct cause of her death. She survived that injury, and would have continued to survive, if she hadn't been starved and dehydrated to death.

If you were beaten, and left to die, that beating would be the manner of death. But if you survived, and during your recovery someone came along and shot you dead, the shooting would be the manner of death.


191 posted on 08/07/2006 7:05:44 PM PDT by BykrBayb ("We will not be silent. We are your bad conscience. The White Rose will give you no rest." )
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To: floriduh voter

Crist gets no pass from me either.


192 posted on 08/07/2006 7:08:09 PM PDT by Palladin (Ad in Hezbollah Herald: Human Shields wanted. Free housing.)
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To: syriacus
If they cave and clear Greer, then the FEC should not be taken seriously on other matters. A man named Paul Timmerman is the complainant and if they disrespect him or discount the evidence upon which the probable cause hearing is based, Paul Timmerman will seek out the media, one way or the other.

I would hope he would do a live presser. I would hope that Timmerman burned plenty of copies of Greer's illegal tv spot to pass around.

No matter what the FEC says, it was in violation and the FEC can either join the liar's club or find probable cause.

193 posted on 08/07/2006 7:12:33 PM PDT by floriduh voter (END THE SOCIAL PROMOTION OF CHARLIE CRIST * Vote Gallagher 4 Fla Guv)
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To: Palladin
Terri's isolation at Hospice for five years (illegal), the attempts to take her life, finally succeeding after torturing her were VILE. I don't think Jeb and Crist see eye to eye any more. Jeb won't endorse Gallagher though because he doesn't want to offend the Sembler dynasty. Their son is Crist's campaign mgr.

Jeb is close to Betty Sembler. The Semblers were at the Bush 43 inauguration. They are loaded and have donated oodles to Crist's campaign, way beyond the $500 limit. Nobody's investigated that.

194 posted on 08/07/2006 7:21:19 PM PDT by floriduh voter (END THE SOCIAL PROMOTION OF CHARLIE CRIST * Vote Gallagher 4 Fla Guv)
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To: BykrBayb
If you were beaten, and left to die, that beating would be the manner of death.

Exactly. The M.E. stated that he had no idea why I was beaten or if I was. I just died. "Manner of Death: Unknown"

195 posted on 08/07/2006 7:29:37 PM PDT by bjs1779
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To: bjs1779

But Terri didn't die from the beating. She died from the act of deliberately dehydrating her.


196 posted on 08/07/2006 7:38:04 PM PDT by BykrBayb ("We will not be silent. We are your bad conscience. The White Rose will give you no rest." )
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To: floriduh voter

Do you mean this commercial? http://home.comcast.net/~mercymercy/GreerAd.ram


197 posted on 08/07/2006 7:41:25 PM PDT by BykrBayb ("We will not be silent. We are your bad conscience. The White Rose will give you no rest." )
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To: BykrBayb; T'wit
But Terri didn't die from the beating. She died from the act of deliberately dehydrating her.

Twit is great for words. I see it, but I can't say it BB. : )

198 posted on 08/07/2006 7:42:14 PM PDT by bjs1779
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To: Quiet Man Jr.

When will these loons go away?


199 posted on 08/07/2006 7:42:52 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: bjs1779

I would think that the person who did the beating, would be an accessory. Those who planned and carried out the dehydration would still be guilty of murder, with or without a determination regarding the beating.


200 posted on 08/07/2006 7:46:16 PM PDT by BykrBayb ("We will not be silent. We are your bad conscience. The White Rose will give you no rest." )
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