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New Finding Challenges Tour Champís Claim (Landis - Tour De France)
NY Times ^ | 8-1-06 | Juliet Macur

Posted on 08/01/2006 9:21:24 AM PDT by jdm

Tests performed on the cyclist Floyd Landis’s initial urine sample showed that some of the testosterone in his body had come from an external source and was not produced by his system, according to a person at the International Cycling Union with knowledge of the results.

That finding contradicts what Landis has claimed in his defense since the disclosure last week that he had tested positive for an elevated ratio of testosterone to epitestosterone during the Tour de France.

During a news conference in Madrid on Friday, Landis said, “We will explain to the world why this is not a doping case, but a natural occurrence.” He explained that the testosterone levels throughout his career were “natural and produced by my own organism.”

Landis, 30, the third American to win the Tour, captivated fans with an improbable comeback. He provided the urine samples at the center of the doping inquiry after winning Stage 17 in the Alps with a long solo attack. That performance set up his victory, as he climbed to third place over all after struggling and plunging to 11th the day before.

His urine sample from that day was divided into A and B samples. Confirmation of the A sample result is needed for a doping violation to occur. If the B sample comes up negative, the case is dropped. But the finding disclosed yesterday, based on a more sophisticated test, shed new light on Landis’s failure to pass his initial screening, and he could be subjected to punishment because he had a prohibited substance in his body.

If the B sample comes back positive, Landis will face a two-year suspension from the sport. He will also be stripped of his Tour de France title.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: armstrong; de; floyd; france; lance; landis; tour
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1 posted on 08/01/2006 9:21:27 AM PDT by jdm
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To: jdm

Not good.


2 posted on 08/01/2006 9:22:46 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: jdm

Let me guess...the samples were evaluated by a FRENCH medical team, right???


3 posted on 08/01/2006 9:23:44 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help m)
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To: JimRed

lol


4 posted on 08/01/2006 9:24:19 AM PDT by jdm
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To: dfwgator
Ruh Roh...
5 posted on 08/01/2006 9:24:21 AM PDT by johnny7 (ďAnd what's Fonzie like? Come on Yolanda... what's Fonzie like?!Ē)
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To: jdm
1) Why would someone do doping knowing that he would be tested, it doesn't male sense.

2) I don't trust France to treat an American winner of their race fairly.

3) If he was doping, strip him of his title.

6 posted on 08/01/2006 9:29:38 AM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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That's why this story makes no sense..THEY KNOW they'll be tested...THEY KNOW Americans are under more scrutiny. I'm leary of this...but...who knows?


7 posted on 08/01/2006 9:30:46 AM PDT by Hildy
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To: Hildy

Exactly.
This kind of reminds me of the leak that one of Lance Armstrongs 'b' samples tested positive right before last year's TDF.


8 posted on 08/01/2006 9:32:39 AM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: jdm
Simple cultural miscommunication here. See, outside of France, men naturally produce testosterone.
9 posted on 08/01/2006 9:33:11 AM PDT by thoughtomator (The worst thing about censorship is XXXXXXXXXXXXX)
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To: jdm

Only the French would think it suspicious to have testosterone in the male body.


10 posted on 08/01/2006 9:36:08 AM PDT by krewjay
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To: Lx

"1) Why would someone do doping knowing that he would be tested, it doesn't male sense."

I'll don my flame suit: I've only seen him interviewed once....and he didn't seem all too bright.


11 posted on 08/01/2006 9:36:38 AM PDT by jdm
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To: thoughtomator
See, outside of France, men naturally produce testosterone.

LOL! That's funny! Post of the day!

12 posted on 08/01/2006 9:38:12 AM PDT by soccer_maniac (My new blog: http://capitalistpundit.blogspot.com/)
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To: dfwgator

Someone commented that testosterone would not really produce an 'overnight' performance enhancing response. Taking testosterone or steroids would help build up muscle mass over the long term, but the effect would show up in months, not hours. There are other drugs that have an immediate affect, but they work entirely differntly in the body.

So why would Landis take testosterone after a poor performance in order to boost his performance trhe following day? It makes no sense. He wouldn't get a benefit in performance.

Something does not make sense here.


13 posted on 08/01/2006 9:38:47 AM PDT by WL-law
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To: jdm

A local sports commentator speculated that someone could have given him something without his knowledge, to sabatoge him. He mentioned the people handing cups of water out to marathon runners in NY.

But it seems highly improbable that an athlete like this would just injest something from anyone, especially knowing he'd be tested.

I dunno. whatever happened, we'll find out (I hope).


14 posted on 08/01/2006 9:46:38 AM PDT by cvq3842
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To: jdm
"I'll don my flame suit: I've only seen him interviewed once....and he didn't seem all too bright."

Landis is not particularly articulate, but I don't think he's stupid. For one thing, he's pretty new to the spotlight and isn't accustomed to doing a lot of interviews.
15 posted on 08/01/2006 9:47:05 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: jdm
Tests performed on the cyclist Floyd Landis’s initial urine sample showed that some of the testosterone in his body had come from an external source and was not produced by his system, according to a person at the International Cycling Union with knowledge of the results.

More leaked information rather than officially released information.

The International Cycling Union needs to start firing people.

The tests need to be verified. The accused needs the opportunity to contest those results. Only after the tests have been verified should such allegations be made public.

If the tests show that he is guilty of doping, he deserves what he gets, however they was this has been handled by the International Cycling Union shows the organization itself has serious issues that need addressed.

16 posted on 08/01/2006 9:48:03 AM PDT by untrained skeptic
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As an analytical chemist with some expertise in GC/MS, there are a LOT of things that can go wrong, especially in a portable lab like they are probably working out of.

Plus, under these types of circumstances, you're a hero if you find something, even if it isn't there (see Joyce Gilchrist).

17 posted on 08/01/2006 9:48:43 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam Factoid:After forcing young girls to watch his men execute their fathers, Muhammad raped them.)
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To: Lx
Exactly. This kind of reminds me of the leak that one of Lance Armstrongs 'b' samples tested positive right before last year's TDF.

--rimshot--

18 posted on 08/01/2006 9:48:48 AM PDT by frogjerk (LIBERALISM: The perpetual insulting of common sense.)
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To: WL-law

The question is:

Testosterone is a unique chemical compound. God only made one. What is synthetic testosterone????


19 posted on 08/01/2006 9:49:33 AM PDT by BillM
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To: WL-law

also the level would not drop to normal the day after. when these guys dope the level would not be normal one day, abnormal the next, and normal the day after. something does not smell right in this situation.


20 posted on 08/01/2006 9:52:08 AM PDT by milwguy
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