Posted on 08/01/2006 1:23:11 PM PDT by areafiftyone
Among Republicans, McCain was the top choice among more than 40 percent of those surveyed in the Rocky Mountain Poll. McCain unsuccessfully sought the party’s nomination in 2000. He was followed in the survey by former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani. Next were former Rep. Newt Gingrich of Georgia, Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, Sen. Bill Frist of Tennessee and Sen. George Allen of Virginia. “Seeing McCain with numbers that high two years out is obviously a positive for our state party,” said Arizona Republican Party spokesman Garrick Taylor. McCain polled well among Tucson and rural residents, as well as among those under 35 and among Hispanics, said Earl de Berge, research director for Phoenix-based Behavior Research Center, which conducted the survey. Among Democrats, Clinton was selected by a third among those surveyed. The former first lady polled particularly well among minorities, who selected her nearly 45 percent of the time, de Berge said. She was trailed by 2004 vice presidential nominee John Edwards, a former Senator from North Carolina; and 2004 presidential nominee Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts. Next were former Vice President Al Gore, retired Gen. Wesley Clark and Sen. Joe Biden of Delaware. “It’s way too early to be handicapping the 2008 presidential race,” said Alice McKeon, spokeswoman for the Arizona Democratic Party. “Arizona Democrats are focusing our efforts on the upcoming 2006 elections in less than 100 days.” The survey found that large blocks of voters from both parties have yet to focus on the presidential election. Fifteen percent of Republican voters either want someone else or are undecided, while 27 percent of Democrats are still looking. The survey of 251 Republicans and 284 Democrats statewide was conducted between July 8 and 21. It has a margin of error of 6.3 percent. |
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LOL. Interesting polling methodology, ain't it?
The air is thinner up there.
I pray to God a conservative surfaces before it's too late.
Well there are other choices. People who are polled can very well choose Allen or Frist or Newt but they Choose Giuliani or McCAin in poll after poll. It just means they prefer them over the other choices. if the only conservative Allen polls in the single digits that means that we need to look elsewhere.
Yeah that must be it.
This is all a big fat LIE - McCain is not the front runner. And .. I don't believe Hillary is either.
This is just more of the drive-by's attempt to create their fantasy out of NOTHING!
Well I hope we can find one. The so-called conservatives that are listed in the polls can't get out of the single digits. And it's been like that over a year now.
As well as the skin.
OMG - the left will have so many choices in the next few years. :) McCain or Hillary? Which one oh which one?
No they don't. These are PUSH polls, created by whoever it serves. Allen is locked in a Senate race this year, he is not running for President until after he is reelected as Senator. Give him some time. McCain and Giuliani will NOT get the votes of Southerners, no matter who the competition is.
From what I have been reading - the #1 choice is Al Gore, Clark comes in second and then Kerry. Hillary is hated by the ultra left and loved by the moderate Democrats.
Giuliani already is number one in the state of Georgia. You can't get more southern than that. But that's besides the point.
The ultra Left will prevent Hillary from being on the ballot because of her vote for the Iraq war among other things. She is totally on their SH#$#T list. Now if Al Gore runs he'll get the ultra left and the moderate democrat vote.
Totally agree. They are just playing with the idea of McCain or Hillary trying to scare us into something or someone. I put so-called polls right up there with the Easter Bunny anyway.
Yeah, and Giuliani really helped Ralph Reed, didn't he? LOL!
As the campaigns continue and the South is exposed to the real Giuliani, McCain and the other RINOs, they will avoid them like the plague. Issue after issue, they fly in the face of true conservatives in the South, and you won't win the presidency without the South.
Abortion, Partial Birth Abortion, Homosexual Agenda, Prayer in Schools, School Choice, illegal invaders ("immigration")amnesty, you name it and the South will run from the RINOs.
Why does the leftist media think they get to pick our candidates?
I vote "NO" to both
Everyone knows about Rudy. He was a two term mayor of the biggest city in the country. His positions have been out there for years and years. People who hate him will always hate him and people who love and like him will continue to. Rudy's life has been an open book - he's had many books written about him. You would have to be living in a cave not to know about Rudy.
I read your newsflash - too bad so far the American people don't want it.
The MSM is pushing for Clone A or Clone B or Clone C.
There is no difference between them. It seems as if all the MSM darlings are irrelevantly different. They don't want another cowboy. (aka man)
Get educated on presidential politics. It doesn't matter one iota what these PUSH polls say. It is up to individual states, and right now, if polled individually by a non-push poll, McCain and Giuliani only win on name recognition. That will change in time. Neither RINO will be able to gather the conservative votes necessary to win enough states in 2008.
Well that I agree with. But from the look of things it seems like outside NYC the people are searching for something else besides the same old conservatives. I don't know what they are looking for when they choose someone like McCain but they are searching for something different. I personally will have a hard time voting for McCain if he gets the nomination.
They will be push polling till November 2008 and until the poll goes the way you want it I guess you just won't believe them.
Who would win then? Pence and Tancredo can't defeat Hillary, and I'm not very optimistic about Allen, though I'll concede Allen has the best chance out of the social conservatives.
Rudy can win, and if we can get him to appoint judges in the mold of Roberts and Alito, he seems like the best option.
We can't afford to let the Democrats take over while we're fighting a global war with the Sand Nazis. That means voting for McCain if we must
If the Democrats do something stupid like nominate Russ Feingold, all bets are off, of course.
((((POLL PING)))))
Whether the person is a cowboy or not doesn't matter to the American people. I think the big issue will be the WOT in 2008. People want someone tough on the WOT. The social issues will be on the back burner if the WOT is still being fought. That is what won Bush his second term. People liked a strong tough leader in the WOT. In 2000 it was more of a social issues because we weren't hit yet by terrorists.
Wasn't Howard Dean the big favorite for the Democratic Nomination in 2004? Well he was before the first caucus... and he disappeared off the charts before the first primary. Remember Howard Dean was the man who had harnessed the web to add lots of new Democrats and raise tons of money. Sure looked like a winner in the polls. But he looked like a loser after they counted the votes.
"That schlemiel Rudy better get outta my way, or else."
I will say this one more time. What the polls show now are not what they will show when issue after issue is discussed.
If the best the GOP can come up with are RINOs, then who cares who gets elected? You will end up with a Democrat or liberal agenda president anyway! Conservatives will only vote for a RINO if it is their ONLY choice, all the time holding their nose.
Those of you who think we are all going to flock behind McCain or Giuliani just because they have a (R) next to their name are badly mistaken.
I sincerely hope that, having said this, Garrick immediately left for the rest room where he barfed out his guts.
Please tell us -- what is the difference in McCain and Hillary Clinton, the two vodka drinking buddies? What is the difference in Giuliani and any Democrat?
Rudolfo recently used Georgia conservative voters as a Southern strategy and as a proving ground of his ability to deliver votes by endorsing Christian conservative Ralph Reed.
When Reed went down to defeat, so did Rudy's supposed "ability" to rally conservatives, and deliver their votes to candidates.
Also brings up Rudy's endorsement of a Democrat---incumbent ultra-liberal Gov Mario Cuomo----who suffered a humiliating defeat.
Looks like people aren't buying what this guy is selling.
TommyDale--
One, and most importantly for the executive branch, McCain and Giuliani understand the war against radical Islam. John Kerry, Al Gore, Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, and John Edwards do not.
At this juncture in history, that's all you need to know. Case Closed. But there's more.
McCain is pro-life, opposes same-sex marriages, supports privatizing social security, supports prayer in schools, favors the death penalty, believes in the 2nd amendment, and strongly supports the patriot act. McCain showboats on a few issues like campaign finance reform and the environment, but that's not enough to put Hillary in the office.
With Rudy, he has been out of line with the party on three issues -- guns, gays, and abortion. Even then he's much better than Hillary, but if he promises to appoint judges like Alito and Roberts, it is a slam dunk. Here's Rudy on the Middle East, to take an example:
Well it has worked pretty well for them since Reagan.
If you think McCain is all those things, then by all means you may choose to endorse him and even vote for him. Too bad he has taken too many stances against his own party, has been a rebel to the GOP and has become untrustworthy as a Republican in general. His campaign "reform" has been a disaster. He is nowhere near as popular as you think he is. He will never win a state in the South. Case closed.
Good one.
I won't be voting for either one....
Tommy--
The south isn't going to put someone like Hillary Clinton or Barack Hussein Obama in office. Trust me on this.
Unless the primary schedule is changed, McCain and Giuliani are the people to beat in New Hampshire and Iowa. And both of them are INFINITELY preferable to the Clintons.
The South could very well put Hillary or Obama in office, merely by conservatives sitting out in 2008. Believe me, I will choose to either vote third party or not vote rather than cast a ballot for McCain or Giuliani. Millions more feel even stronger than I do. Get this in your heads, McCain and Giuliani supporters: We recognize a conservative, and McCain and Giuliani are not conservatives!!
You may *feel* stronger than I do, but I *think* stronger than you do.
If you are willing to have a Hillary Rodman Clinton administration during a time of global war, with cabinet posts filled with clowns like Dennis Kucinich, John Kerry, Jim McDermott and so forth, you really don't give a damn about America.
President Giuliani will kill the Sand Nazis, appoint judges that respect the Constitution, and keep America a good place to do business. That's good enough for me.
Not supporting Giuliani or McCain in the primary is something I can understand. Voting 3rd party during a presidential election at this point in history is something that has no justification, period.
well of course McCain is running ahead in Arizona.
I could've seen that one coming.
You must not think at all if you can see a dime's worth of difference in Hillary Clinton and McClain. They are both equally despised among conservative Republicans in the South.
You GOP people in the liberal states don't get it. You are willing to take the Presidency and run the same risk of appointments with a McCain or Giuliani that a Clinton would give us.
This has become daily horse manure, toss out the McCain and Giuliani names and get the fake polls showing them as leaders of the GOP. They are not conservatives, period.
Tommy--
You are emoting, not thinking.
The evidence does not justify the wild claims you're making. I listed about ten quick distinctions between McCain and the Clintons above, the most important being the war on terrorism. For example, McCain understands that Iran should not have nukes under any circumstances, since Iran is run by end-of-times religious fanatics. The Clintons, in contrast, do not.
Cabinet posts count for something too -- there will be a lot of clowns in a Democrat administration that we will not see, let us say, in President Giuliani's government. But we have to win first if we want to keep the spoils.
Please don't tell me what I am thinking. I have done several campaigns, and I'm telling you the conservatives do NOT want a McCain or Giuliani candidacy for the GOP. Let them run as what they are -- Liberals or Democrats.
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