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Oops, Sorry' Doesn't Let Israel Off the Hook
Los Angeles Times ^ | Aug. 1, 2006 | ADAM SHATZ

Posted on 08/01/2006 7:57:21 PM PDT by Nachum

IN THE WEST, Qana, a small Lebanese village southeast of Tyre, is believed by some to be the place where Jesus performed his first miracle, turning water into wine. In Lebanon and throughout the wider Arab and Muslim world, however, the village's name has for the last decade been synonymous with something else: the killing in April 1996 of more than 100 men, women and children who had taken refuge in a U.N. compound, hiding from Israeli shelling directed at Hezbollah. Over time, Qana has been sculpted by Hezbollah into a symbol of martyrdom, a Shiite version of Sabra and Shatila.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: 2006israelwar; doesnt; hook; israel; let; off; oops; qana; sorry; the; treasonmedia
I'd like to smack this guy with a wet fish.
1 posted on 08/01/2006 7:57:24 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum

...then you would think the citizens would wise up there and get the Hezzies out since they seem to be bombed every now and then for said reason.....keep it up....we shall keep bombing....no "time outs" for you guys


2 posted on 08/01/2006 8:00:09 PM PDT by NorCalRepub
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To: Nachum
Oops, Sorry' Doesn't Let Israel Off the Hook

How about, war's a nasty business, sh*t happens?

3 posted on 08/01/2006 8:04:16 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Nachum

Perhaps this Liberal idiot would like to get the facts straight before condemning Israel. But, when did the MSM ever care about the truth? No blame for the Hezzies is there?


4 posted on 08/01/2006 8:05:14 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: NorCalRepub

Mr. Shatz has the right last name ,because he's certainly full of Shatz !!!


5 posted on 08/01/2006 8:05:32 PM PDT by Obie Wan
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To: Nachum; rmlew
By Adam Shatz, ADAM SHATZ is literary editor of the Nation.

Shatz should get the Noam Chomsky Award for the self-hating Jewish anti-Israeli rant of the day.

6 posted on 08/01/2006 8:05:57 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Nachum

If "sorry" won't help, I would try "too bad, so sad"


7 posted on 08/01/2006 8:06:53 PM PDT by eclectic (Liberalism is a mental disorder)
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To: Nachum

This clown Adam Shatz is Jewish. That's the sad part.


8 posted on 08/01/2006 8:07:42 PM PDT by dennisw (Confucius say man who go through turnstile sideways going to Bangkok)
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To: Nachum

If you harbor terrorists, you are as guilty as the people you harbor. It's just that simple. Don't like it, either kick them out, or get the hell out of the way.


9 posted on 08/01/2006 8:08:15 PM PDT by kingu (Yeah, I'll vote in 2006, just as soon as a party comes along who listens.)
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To: dennisw

I'll reserve smart-aleck comment on this one. This "journalist" needs to learn how to to research. OTOH, I have an opinion too, can I get paid for it?


10 posted on 08/01/2006 8:09:28 PM PDT by Jaded (does it really need a sarcasm tag?)
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To: Nachum

I guess this writer hasn't heard that there were only a few dozen killed, and that it's likely the building came down 7 hours after the Israeli airstrike, likely because the Hezzies brought it down on the women and handicapped kids they brought in (and were they alive or dead when the Hezzy demons brought in the "victimes")?


11 posted on 08/01/2006 8:11:02 PM PDT by Theo ("Scientists" believe in both evolution and man-caused global warming. They're wrong in both cases.)
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To: Nachum

One of these might be his email

adam@thenation.com
shatz@thenation.com


12 posted on 08/01/2006 8:11:18 PM PDT by listenhillary (Only the stupidest of animals fouls it's own nest - Democrats provide a fine example of this)
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To: Nachum
Where is the condemnation of Hezbollah for setting up next to the UN or in hospitals or any other way to use innocents to shield themselves so they can shoot at Israel?

What this has shown anyone paying attention is that there is no more patient a country than Israel and that Hezbollah uses that to its advantage to kill Israelis.

13 posted on 08/01/2006 8:12:43 PM PDT by GBA
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To: Nachum

"Oops sorry..."

Worked for me. I feel fine about it!


14 posted on 08/01/2006 8:12:57 PM PDT by brothertrav
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To: Theo
likely because the Hezzies brought it down on the women and handicapped kids they brought in (and were they alive or dead when the Hezzy demons brought in the "victimes")?

Mr. Shatz, the LA Times and the MSM don't care.

It's Israel's fault!!!

Or, maybe, it's Bush's...

15 posted on 08/01/2006 8:13:49 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Nachum
Is Israel's "accidental" violence against civilians somehow better, or more morally acceptable, than that of a Hamas suicide bomber who steps into a pizzeria seeking to kill civilians? Yes, dumbasss. Israel is deliberately targeting terrorists and sometimes hitting the WILLING human shields they hide behind. Hezbollah is deliberately targeting civilians and sometimes hitting a military target. That you need help with such moral equivalence explains alot about why your rag of a newspaper is in decline.
16 posted on 08/01/2006 8:15:08 PM PDT by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: dennisw
"This clown Adam Shatz is Jewish. That's the sad part."

Another example of a Jew from the "Lost Tribe" of Israel - the STUPID TRIBE -- most of whom found their way to America...the only place on the planet where the stupid can thrive and multiply...

Semper Fi

17 posted on 08/01/2006 8:15:52 PM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Nachum

Hezbo made a mistake too ..they were trying to kill civilians,old men ,women,and children, and accidentally killed 2 soldiers


18 posted on 08/01/2006 8:18:31 PM PDT by woofie
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To: Theo
I guess this writer hasn't heard that there were only a few dozen killed, and that it's likely the building came down 7 hours after the Israeli airstrike, likely because the Hezzies brought it down on the women and handicapped kids they brought in (and were they alive or dead when the Hezzy demons brought in the "victimes")?

Too many people miss the point. Civilians die in war.

There are some obscure small towns that suffered mild damage from bombs and rockets. London, Berlin, Dresden, Hiroshima, Nagasaki, and a few others.

Estimated casualties were between 150 and 200 thousand.

19 posted on 08/01/2006 8:21:51 PM PDT by Cobra64 (All we get are lame ideas from Republicans and lame criticism from dems about those lame ideas.)
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To: Nachum

His namesake is very fitting.


20 posted on 08/01/2006 8:30:45 PM PDT by Killborn (Pres. Bush isn't Pres. Reagan. Then again, Pres. Regan isn't Pres. Washington. God bless them all.)
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To: Nachum

la timid times needs to get some email


21 posted on 08/01/2006 8:30:47 PM PDT by GeronL (http://www.mises.org/story/1975)
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To: Paleo Conservative
"Shatz should get the Noam Chomsky Award for the self-hating Jewish anti-Israeli rant of the day."

"This clown Adam Shatz is Jewish. That's the sad part."

"Oven Jews" like Adam Shatz are beyond contempt. I despise them more than the Islamofascists.

22 posted on 08/01/2006 8:32:17 PM PDT by 10mm
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To: Nachum

This author won't let Israel off the hook but turns a deaf ear to the suffering and murder perpetrated by terrorists like Hezbollah. Nice objective article! (sarc)


23 posted on 08/01/2006 8:37:33 PM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: Nachum

Why doesn't Hezbollah call an end to hostilities if it's all so terrible? If Hezbollah waled away today, the Israelis wouldn't take over Lebanon, they'd go home to their families. Even the fogged out left knows this, so they shout and wave their arms to distract us.


24 posted on 08/01/2006 8:39:09 PM PDT by claudiustg (dou•ble•think ('d&-b&l-"thi[ng]k), noun, 1949: a simultaneous belief in two contradictory ideas.)
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To: Nachum
In Lebanon and throughout the wider Arab and Muslim world, however, the village's name has for the last decade been synonymous with something else: the killing in April 1996 of more than 100 men, women and children who had taken refuge in a U.N. compound, hiding from Israeli shelling directed at Hezbollah. Over time, Qana has been sculpted by Hezbollah into a symbol of martyrdom, a Shiite version of Sabra and Shatila.

And what better place to stage a 'massacre'?

25 posted on 08/01/2006 8:41:34 PM PDT by CaptRon (Pedecaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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To: Paleo Conservative
Shatz should get the Noam Chomsky Award for the self-hating Jewish anti-Israeli rant of the day.

Believe it or not a sister in law of Chomsky was on a local talk show.  She was a hopeless peacenik which Noam Chomsky is not

26 posted on 08/01/2006 8:44:04 PM PDT by dennisw (Confucius say man who go through turnstile sideways going to Bangkok)
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To: Theo

Sorry ....that does'nt fit the MSM mantra.


27 posted on 08/01/2006 8:45:16 PM PDT by justkillingtime
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To: Jaded

If he's going to throw this in as "A FACT", tells you a whole lot about the rest of the 'story'. Plus as Rush says, people like this are LIBERALS FIRST, Jewish second

Shatz - "Let us assume, for the sake of argument, that Israel did, in fact, make the same mistake twice in Qana — or, to take another recent example, in Gaza, where a family of eight spending an afternoon on the beach was killed by an errant Israeli shell in June."

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/06/13/mideast.probe/

CNN - The explosion on a Gaza beach that killed seven people last Friday was caused by explosives planted there by Palestinian militants, not artillery fire from an Israeli navy gunboat, Israeli military sources said Tuesday.

An Israeli commando unit used the beach to enter Gaza for a mission in recent weeks, prompting the militants to place the mines, the sources said.

Intelligence information gathered by Israeli investigators showed that Hamas quickly removed the remaining mines from the beach after the blast, the sources said.


28 posted on 08/01/2006 8:50:26 PM PDT by cajun scpo ([facts matter])
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To: Nachum
An estimated 750 Lebanese, overwhelmingly civilians and many of them children, have died, a dozen times more than the 50-plus Israelis (more than half of them soldiers) killed by Hezbollah.

Hezbullah has the option of not firing from residential areas or surrendering.
In a war you can't complain that one side killed too many on the other side, it's war. Where was this guy when suicide bombers were killing women and children? Did he complain that Israel didn't kill enough of the bad guys?
The ironic part is that the terrorists would kill this guy without batting an eye simply because he is a Jew, if he survived a terrorist attack he'd probably die of guilt

29 posted on 08/01/2006 8:56:55 PM PDT by The Brush
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To: paul51

How about the fact that news reports today are saying that it is now believed that Hezbollah held the children there, launched a missle to Israel knowing there would be retaliation, to do an ugly PR job on Israel.

Hezbollah has alway been masterful at turning the tables on their enemies in the PR arena.


30 posted on 08/01/2006 8:58:46 PM PDT by no dems (www.4condi.com)
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To: Nachum

Just once, let's hear the the UN condemn Hezbollah or any other mass murdering group for purposely killing Israeli children at school, in buses, at home in their beds, at restaurants, at play? I don't buy it. Remember the big fake job the Palestinians pulled in Jenin 4 years ago. They claimed they had suffered a massacre - same words as now - turned out to be vastly exaggerated and the media with any integrity quietly admitted they backed a lie.


31 posted on 08/01/2006 9:04:21 PM PDT by Mack Truck
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To: Nachum

Guess the LA Slime did not get the updated information that Qana was another staged "Atrocity" like Jelin. It a lie put out by Hizbulla.


32 posted on 08/01/2006 9:10:05 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Fire Murtha Now! Spread the word. Support Diana Irey. http://www.irey.com/)
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To: 10mm; dennisw
"Oven Jews" like Adam Shatz are beyond contempt. I despise them more than the Islamofascists.


33 posted on 08/01/2006 9:33:08 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Fenris6

"Yes, dumbasss. Israel is deliberately targeting terrorists"


Plus, does Hezbollah drop leaflets or notify the villages in Israel that they are going to be bombed or targeted?

Bias is as bias does.


34 posted on 08/01/2006 9:34:18 PM PDT by austinaero
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To: Nachum
Is Israel's "accidental" violence against civilians somehow better, or more morally acceptable, than that of a Hamas suicide bomber who steps into a pizzeria seeking to kill civilians? Or a Hezbollah guerrilla firing a Katyusha in the direction of a Haifa residential neighborhood? In short, do Israel's declared intentions make a difference?

ummmm.. yes it is more acceptable. Its the difference btw accident and deliberate. If I punch you in the face on purpose is that worse than your 2 year old accidentally hitting your nose? this guy is an idiot. If you want to end civilian casualties try to resist using them as shields.

35 posted on 08/01/2006 10:01:06 PM PDT by thehumanlynx (“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.” -Edmund Burke)
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To: Nachum
Terrorists launch missiles at Israel intending to kill as many civilians as possible, and writers like this act like it is a natural thing, like the tide going in and out. Nothing to say about it, ho hum, that's just the way things are.

Israel responds with restraint, responding to an unprovoked attack, and inevitably there are some civilian casualties - this is war buddy, stuff happens - and suddenly "no apology is good enough."

Yes, this is assymetrical warfare, all right. It is assymetrical because the media and fools like this guy make it so. Give the terrorists a complete pass, and act as if Israel has to follow the laws as if it were a private citizen in the US. It's completely ridiculous. This author is a moron. The US faces the exact same problem when the terrorists attack it - we must be "so careful" not to hurt a single innocent fly overseas, whereas the terrorists not only have no such limitations, they don't even get criticized in the media. I just read stuff like this and can't believe it.

36 posted on 08/01/2006 10:18:34 PM PDT by KellyAdmirer
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To: river rat

They are not a "lost tribe" they are jews, that are not lost, they abandoned ship a long time ago during the battle.

JINO...


37 posted on 08/01/2006 11:25:58 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: All


http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=23655
"STAGE-MANAGED MASSACRE"
By Robert Spencer
FrontPageMagazine.com | August 2, 2006

===
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HOT AIR.com - VENT with Michelle Malkin: "WHAT HAPPENED IN QANA?" (Video)
August 1, 2006
http://hotair.com/archives/vent/2006/08/01/what-happened-in-qana/

===
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Note: See Map. See Video.

http://off-topic.internet-haganah.com/archives/000509.html
August 01, 2006

"ROCKET LAUNCHINGS FROM QANA"


38 posted on 08/02/2006 2:29:14 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: Nachum
I'd like to smack this guy with a wet fish.

A large one.

39 posted on 08/02/2006 2:32:53 AM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Nachum

btw, (for the "reporter") WRONG KANA, MORON! the biblical cana is in ISRAEL! been there.
should i warm up the flame deflector?


40 posted on 08/02/2006 6:47:10 AM PDT by wayne_b24 (every day in the Light is a good day...)
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