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Marine Names Murtha in Defamation Suit
Washington Post ^ | August 2, 2006 | Josh White

Posted on 08/01/2006 9:05:50 PM PDT by Velveeta

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To: UCANSEE2

I can see your point. However, I am inclined to think that someone of Murtha's caliber (choke) will connect him to the GOP anyway, accuse him of being a 'plant', etc., etc.

Politics, gotta love it.


51 posted on 08/01/2006 9:39:34 PM PDT by austinaero
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To: Velveeta

Amen, Vel.


52 posted on 08/01/2006 9:40:35 PM PDT by pissant
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To: LachlanMinnesota

It was said on TV in interviews. ;-)


53 posted on 08/01/2006 9:41:21 PM PDT by Velveeta
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To: Velveeta

Man, your name makes me hungry. Want a toasted cheese sandwich NOW!


54 posted on 08/01/2006 9:42:49 PM PDT by flaglady47
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To: pissant; jazusamo; smoothsailing; Coop; freema; W04Man; xpertskir; bert; chcknhawk; Old Sarge; ...
A Marine Corps staff sergeant who led the squad accused of killing two dozen civilians in Haditha, Iraq, will file a lawsuit today in federal court in Washington claiming that Rep. John P. Murtha (D-Pa.) defamed him

PING!!!

Anyone wishing to be added to the IREY/murtha ping list, let me know!

55 posted on 08/01/2006 9:44:32 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN..Supprt our Troops! www.irey.com and www.vets4Irey.com - Now more than Ever!)
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To: flaglady47

With tomatoes and bacon. ;-)


56 posted on 08/01/2006 9:44:40 PM PDT by Velveeta
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To: Velveeta
As I understand it, the debating protections are only applicable in the chamber while on debate, so if someone calls the other one a rat barstid, he can't bring the place down with endless litigation and tie up the process (yea, like that would make a difference!). It is to protect the legislative process, not to give carte blanc to our leadership to slander and libel their way through the day. The privilege is reserved for the press.
57 posted on 08/01/2006 9:46:49 PM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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To: Just A Nobody
 

58 posted on 08/01/2006 9:48:23 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Velveeta

59 posted on 08/01/2006 9:49:34 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: All; pissant

Reminder of a few of TRAITOR Murtha's comments:


Marines had “killed innocent civilians in cold blood”

“It’s much worse than was reported in Time magazine,”

“One man was killed with an [improvised explosive device] and after that they actually went into the houses and killed women and children.”

"There has to have been a coverup of this thing,"

"I will not excuse murder, and this is what has happened,"
"no question in my mind about it."

He reiterated a previous statement that shootings of women and children occurred "in cold blood" and that there was no firefight in which civilians were killed in a crossfire, as some Marines asserted after the event.

"This is worse than Abu Ghraib,"


60 posted on 08/01/2006 9:51:23 PM PDT by Velveeta
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To: Velveeta

Will someone (not me, I'm don't have the know-how) please follow this story and keep us updated!?!


61 posted on 08/01/2006 9:51:51 PM PDT by ArmyTeach (NOT ON MY WATCH!)
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To: kcmt01

Thank you for my nightmares from that visual!


62 posted on 08/01/2006 9:53:14 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Just A Nobody

Keep-me-posted PING


63 posted on 08/01/2006 9:53:44 PM PDT by ArmyTeach (NOT ON MY WATCH!)
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To: Velveeta

64 posted on 08/01/2006 9:54:56 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Just A Nobody; kellynla; river rat; usmcobra; Coop
The move by Wuterich is rare, as statements made by members of Congress generally are protected under the "speech or debate" clause in Article I, Section 6, of the Constitution. But legal experts said the clause grants immunity only for what lawmakers say in legislative proceedings and does not apply to news releases, speeches and other public comments.

In other words, Murtha is fair game! GET'R DONE MARINE! Send this EX-marine Murtha to the hell hole he deserves.

65 posted on 08/01/2006 9:56:32 PM PDT by smoothsailing (Support The Troops-Support The Mission--Please Visit http://www.irey.com--&--Vets4Irey.com)
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To: flaglady47
Here, on me! Let's party!


66 posted on 08/01/2006 9:57:11 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Velveeta

BTTT


67 posted on 08/01/2006 9:57:45 PM PDT by jazusamo (DIANA IREY for Congress, PA 12th District: Retire murtha.)
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To: SandRat

BTTT


68 posted on 08/01/2006 10:00:10 PM PDT by kattracks
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To: LachlanMinnesota
"Chilling effect on false free speech, maybe..."

A Congress Critter's Free speech rights are guaranteed on the House Floor.......where other Congress Critters can argue with him..

Congress Critters are subject to the "little man's" laws when OFF the floor......and the "injured" are allowed a remedy..

Make a false charge ...false accusation....Slander... Defame....Rape.....Murder ------ it's their ass on the line...Unless of course you're a Kennedy, Clinton or any other more equal entity....

I hope this Marine ruins Murtha's "golden years" and brings his true unsavory history and character into FULL FOCUS...

Fry Murtha.

Semper Fi

69 posted on 08/01/2006 10:00:22 PM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Velveeta

Get the rope. I'll tie the knot.


70 posted on 08/01/2006 10:01:12 PM PDT by pissant
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To: ArmyTeach

I think someone has a Haditha ping list, when I remember who it is, I'll ping you.

Either way, I'll try to keep you pinged myself.


71 posted on 08/01/2006 10:01:52 PM PDT by Velveeta
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To: Calpernia

Ok, that picture has now officially driven me into the kitchen. To toast or not to toast, that is the question. To toast, of course! Be back after the duration of making and eating samich. Am drooling at the thought.


72 posted on 08/01/2006 10:02:08 PM PDT by flaglady47
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To: Calpernia

Joining you in a happy dance. :-)


73 posted on 08/01/2006 10:02:59 PM PDT by Velveeta
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To: smoothsailing; All

MATTHEWS: Draw us a picture of what happened in Haditha.

MURTHA: Well I'll tell you exactly what happened. One Marine was killed and the Marines just said we're gonna take care...we don't know who the enemy is, the pressure was too much on them, so they went into houses and actually killed civilians and...I...

MATTHEWS: Was this My Lai? When you say cold blood Congressman, a lot of people think you're basically saying you've got some civilians sitting in a room or out in a field and they're executed on purpose...

MURTHA: That's exactly what happened.

MATTHEWS: ...not because any of the Marines are scared or anybody is scared...

MURTHA: ...this was not an action...this was not...first they tried to say it was an IED, there was no IED involved in this. This was troops, they were so stressed out, they went into houses and killed children, women and children. 24 people they killed. Now this is the kind of stress they are under. Listen, I don't excuse it, but I understand what's happening and the responsibility goes right to the top. This is something that should not have happened, that should have been investigated, they've already relieved three commanding officers...but this is the kind of stuff...stress is going to cause these kind of things. That's why I'm so upset about it.

MATTHEWS: Congressman, I just want to read something from the Marine Corps and then you can continue. The Marine Corps told us today that they're not going to comment today because the investigation is still ongoing. So they're investigating...

Don't believe the transcript? Watch the video here......
http://www.thepoliticalpitbull.com/2006/05/murtha_makes_an_outrageous_all.php


74 posted on 08/01/2006 10:04:20 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN..Supprt our Troops! www.irey.com and www.vets4Irey.com - Now more than Ever!)
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To: ArmyTeach

Would you like to be added to the IREY/murtha ping list?


75 posted on 08/01/2006 10:05:05 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN..Supprt our Troops! www.irey.com and www.vets4Irey.com - Now more than Ever!)
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To: Just A Nobody
Wow ...more great news! First the ACLU loses its fight to tear down the Soledad Cross in San Diego, and now this!

Thanks for the ping!

76 posted on 08/01/2006 10:05:24 PM PDT by jan in Colorado (http://www.bootmurtha.com -www.irey.com and www.vets4Irey.com)
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To: flaglady47

I hope you have a fresh tomato for that samich!

Yum!


77 posted on 08/01/2006 10:07:21 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: smoothsailing
But legal experts said the clause grants immunity only for what lawmakers say in legislative proceedings and does not apply to news releases, speeches and other public comments.

This is why Turban Dirtbin got away with calling our troops nazis, pol pot etc. He was smart...he did it from the well of the SINate!

78 posted on 08/01/2006 10:07:27 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN..Supprt our Troops! www.irey.com and www.vets4Irey.com - Now more than Ever!)
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To: pissant

Why waste a good piece of rope?
Send him to Abu Ghraib with his jihadi buddies.


79 posted on 08/01/2006 10:09:01 PM PDT by Velveeta
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To: jan in Colorado

Some days are better for smiles than others!!!


80 posted on 08/01/2006 10:11:09 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN..Supprt our Troops! www.irey.com and www.vets4Irey.com - Now more than Ever!)
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To: Velveeta

Along with a dull sword?


81 posted on 08/01/2006 10:11:31 PM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant

ROFL, no....along with pork chops. ~grin~


82 posted on 08/01/2006 10:15:26 PM PDT by Velveeta
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To: Velveeta

Spoil sport.


83 posted on 08/01/2006 10:16:15 PM PDT by pissant
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To: Just A Nobody
will file a lawsuit today in federal court in Washington claiming that Rep. John P. Murtha (D-Pa.) defamed him


Good news!
84 posted on 08/01/2006 10:17:42 PM PDT by Gucho
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To: Velveeta
Why waste a good piece of rope?
Send him to Abu Ghraib with his jihadi buddies.

Rope is cheaper than feeding and housing him for the rest of his disgusting life!

"Congressmen who willfully take actions during wartime that damage morale and undermine the military are saboteurs and should be arrested, exiled, or hanged."

-Abraham Lincoln-

85 posted on 08/01/2006 10:19:09 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN..Supprt our Troops! www.irey.com and www.vets4Irey.com - Now more than Ever!)
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To: Velveeta; Coop

Good for him! Murtha has it coming! I hope the voters in his
district are paying attention.


86 posted on 08/01/2006 10:19:25 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: pissant

Oh come on - go with it!
Can't you just see Murtha in a cell surrounded by jihadis with a porkchop in each hand?

He'd beg for panties...


87 posted on 08/01/2006 10:19:51 PM PDT by Velveeta
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To: Gucho
Good news! Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting
88 posted on 08/01/2006 10:21:04 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN..Supprt our Troops! www.irey.com and www.vets4Irey.com - Now more than Ever!)
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To: Just A Nobody
Some days are better for smiles than others!!!

:-)

89 posted on 08/01/2006 10:21:25 PM PDT by jazusamo (DIANA IREY for Congress, PA 12th District: Retire murtha.)
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To: george76

That cartoon would be funny if it wasn't so true!


90 posted on 08/01/2006 10:21:51 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN..Supprt our Troops! www.irey.com and www.vets4Irey.com - Now more than Ever!)
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To: SuziQ
Of course some will say that this kind of suit will have a 'chilling effect' on free speech.

The laws of defamation trump free speech where the speech purports to be a statement of fact rather than opinion. My money's on the Marines.

91 posted on 08/01/2006 10:22:08 PM PDT by hsalaw
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To: Just A Nobody

Well, can't really argue with Abe, can I?


92 posted on 08/01/2006 10:22:55 PM PDT by Velveeta
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To: jazusamo

So we are all doing the smiley happy dance!


93 posted on 08/01/2006 10:22:56 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN..Supprt our Troops! www.irey.com and www.vets4Irey.com - Now more than Ever!)
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To: Velveeta
Well, can't really argue with Abe, can I?

In a word...............................NO!!! ;*)

94 posted on 08/01/2006 10:24:26 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN..Supprt our Troops! www.irey.com and www.vets4Irey.com - Now more than Ever!)
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To: smoothsailing
Roger that!

I already responded at post #69 before seeing your ping...

But thanks for the ping anyway..
My old eyes are missing a lot lately...
Can't even consistently shoot 1 MOA with a scope at 100 yards -- any longer....

But I am still successful in teaching the younguns to do it -- CONSISTENTLY.

Within forty minutes last Thurday -- I had a small 13 year old Jewish girl tuned in to shoot one 6 round group into 0.8 MOA, with a 22/250 Remington eating handloads...NO Flyers. The Range Master and some of the old timers watching at our range went NUTS!

The little girl couldn't understand why everyone got so excited...she said it was EASY once I told her how!

Getting old is a bitch....but it sure as hell beats the alternative.
Semper Fi

95 posted on 08/01/2006 10:24:32 PM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Velveeta

Yes, I see your point. I'm hoping for a more abrupt depature though, after the trial of course.


96 posted on 08/01/2006 10:25:03 PM PDT by pissant
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To: Just A Nobody

Ain't it great????? I just got this up on the blog. It was really hard not to use four letter words when referring to murthawi but I still came up with some good descriptive adjectives.


97 posted on 08/01/2006 10:32:31 PM PDT by Flora McDonald (got teufelhunden?)
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To: SandRat; NormsRevenge; freema

Marine Bump!


98 posted on 08/01/2006 10:32:46 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: UCANSEE2; smoothsailing; Coop; Just A Nobody

Ya know!

It would be a bad idea for Irey to use this defamation suit politically.....

BUT

It would be an AWESOME propaganda tool for her to invoke Lincoln quotes like this one Just A Nobody posted:

"Congressmen who willfully take actions during wartime that damage morale and undermine the military are saboteurs and should be arrested, exiled, or hanged."

-Abraham Lincoln-

DUAL purpose.

- The Log Cabin Repubs claim to follow Lincoln.

- It is a dual purpose message that will send buzz phrases to Murtha

- She just sounds like she is quoting a former President to those not following this story :)

hee hee


99 posted on 08/01/2006 10:37:01 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Velveeta

More on Murtha

Profile In Treason: John Murtha
By Dave Gibson (06/23/2006)

"Though the left-leaning John F. Kennedy Library Foundation recently gave Congressman John Murtha (D-PA) their Profile In Courage Award, there is little doubt that the former president whose name adorns the award was spinning in his grave when the seditious John Murtha was named as a 2006 recipient. Murtha, who has been giving encouragement to the insurgents in Iraq since his call for U.S. withdrawal last November, chose the side of our enemy when he recently characterized U.S. Marines as murderers.

Last month, Congressman Murtha began to hold news conferences and make the talk show circuit in order to slander our Marines. In an appearance on MSNBC's Hardball, Murtha told host Chris Matthews: "Well, I'll tell you exactly what happened. One Marine was killed and the Marines just said we're going to take care -- we don't know who the enemy is, the pressure was too much on them, so they went into houses and they actually killed civilians." Murtha went on to liken the supposed Haditha incident to the My Lai massacre in Vietnam.

The Haditha incident was first reported by liberal TIME magazine. Reporter Tim McGirk based his article on hearsay from local Iraqis and in particular from someone TIME characterized as a "budding journalist," who was nothing of the sort. While, we have come to expect aid and comfort to be given to our enemies by leftist organizations such as TIME magazine...We do not expect it nor should we accept it from U.S. Congressmen.

Congressman Murtha went even further than TIME did by saying: "It's much worse than was reported by TIME magazine. There was no firefight. There was no (bomb) that killed those people. Murtha claimed that there were "about twice as many" Iraqi civilians killed than as previously reported.

The effects of Murtha's daily heckling of our troops along with his constant call for U.S. surrender have been twofold. His words have no doubt contributed to lower morale amongst U.S. forces serving in Iraq and the Muslim insurgents have been emboldened by the anti-U.S. rhetoric Murtha is spewing. Guerilla attacks on U.S. troops have greatly increased in the last month, culminating with the recent kidnapping, torture, and beheading of two U.S. Army privates.

While the enemy we face in Iraq is barbaric, they are certainly not unsophisticated or unintelligent. The Islamic terrorists have studied the lessons of Vietnam and know that the American people have little taste for war. They also read American newspapers and pay close attention to U.S. public opinion. The enemy believes that if they can keep the insurgency alive long enough, political pressures will eventually dictate the withdrawal of American forces before the job is finished. Congressman John Murtha is no doubt seen by the insurgency as a gift from Allah!

Murtha constantly holds up his service as a Vietnam veteran as a license to say anything against our troops, no matter how treasonous. He immediately dismisses all arguments for staying the course in Iraq if the words do not emanate from a combat veteran. He attacked President Bush and Vice President Cheney by saying: "I like guys who've never been there, who criticize us who've been there. I like that. I like guys who got five deferments and never been there and sent people to war and then don't like to hear suggestions that what may need to be done."

Murtha touts the fact that he has won two Purple Hearts and for many election seasons, subjected the voters of his Pennsylvania district to tales of his own heroism. However, Murtha's own accounts of the injuries he received in Vietnam contradict the U.S. Marines' versions.

The official Marine Corps casualty reports show that near Danang, Vietnam on March 22, 1967 and again on May 7, 1967 Murtha was injured. The report reads: "In the first incident, his right cheek was lacerated, and in the second, he was lacerated above his left eye. Neither injury required evacuation." However, in 1994 Murtha told the Herald-Standard: "I was wounded in the arm with shrapnel from a bullet that hit the motor mount of a helicopter. In the other, my knee was banged up and my arm was banged up when a helicopter was shot down from a very few feet." Still another version of the events were reported in 1967 by the Johnstown Tribune-Democrat, which were taken from a letter Murtha wrote to his wife.

Former Congressman Don Bailey (D-PA) has said many times that Murtha admitted to him in the 1980's that he did not really deserve his two Purple Hearts. In January, Bailey told Cybercast News Service: "(Murtha) is putting himself forward as some combat veteran with serious wounds and he's using that and it's dishonest and it's wrong." Bailey is a Vietnam veteran serving in the Army's 82nd and 101st Airborne Divisions. He was awarded three Bronze Stars and one Silver Star.

Congressman Murtha just as Sen. John Kerry has refused to sign form 180, which would release his military medical records. Apparently, Murtha has something to hide which may be the ultimate motivation behind his attack on American Marines in Iraq. Perhaps, in his persecution of current combat soldiers he is exorcising his own demons.

Whether the motivations behind Murtha's treasonous actions are political (He announced that he will seek the post of Majority Leader if the Democrats take the House in November.) or personal...His actions are treasonous nonetheless.

Can you imagine a U.S. Congressman calling for the immediate withdrawal of U.S. forces in Europe, before the Nazis were defeated? Or that same Congressman labeling U.S. Army Air Corps pilots as murderers for dropping bombs on Japanese cities?...Such a man would have found himself in a federal prison cell (If his fellow Americans did not lynch him first!).

The question we should be asking ourselves is why is the government allowing this traitor to enjoy freedom? Murtha should be arrested and tried for treason...not contemplating a run for a leadership position in the House of Representatives. "

Dave Gibson is a freelance writer and part-time political consultant living in Norfolk, Va.


100 posted on 08/01/2006 10:52:45 PM PDT by politicallyincarrect
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