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AIR AMERICA LOSES ITS NYC STATION 1190 WLIB
Radio trade industry news | 8/2/2006 | Paul Strater

Posted on 08/02/2006 3:09:42 PM PDT by VideoPaul

This just in!

Err America radio, who has been paying WLIB-AM for 100% of its airtime, has lost its home. They found a new station, WWRL, has a transmitter located in New Jersey and is a 25kW datytime, 5kW nighttime station. The directional antenna patterns are very tight to the Southeast to cover NYC, with a lobe to the NW towards Paterson, NJ during the day that is eliminated at night.

WLIB is 30 kW daytime and 10kW nighttime, its daytime pattern similar to WWRL's but not as tight and with a lobe to the east that gets it into Long Island. WLIB's nighttime pattern is extremely broad to the NE, E and SE.

This will mean a massive loss of listeners in the NYC area as its station is far less in power, even moreso at night, and the pattern much more restrictive.

One can only wonder how much Err America is now paying for a far weaker signal.

Any viable, self-respecting syndicated radio show does NOT pay for its carriage on local stations. Broadcasters who have to pay for thei air time are referred to derisively in the industry as "brokers". This translates into "Pay us '$xxxx' and we'll put you on the air. The fact that Err America has has to pay for its airtime in NYC is an industry laughingstock for 2 1/2 years now.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Unclassified
KEYWORDS: airamerica; franken; liberal; liberaltalkradio; radio; rhodes; talkradio; wlib; wlibam
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1 posted on 08/02/2006 3:09:43 PM PDT by VideoPaul
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To: VideoPaul

That's gotta hurt


2 posted on 08/02/2006 3:10:42 PM PDT by lormand (Kill every Islam-0-facist and supporter in the world, only then will we have peace. No Islamo POWs)
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To: VideoPaul

I'm pulling out the smallest violin in the world to play them a song.


3 posted on 08/02/2006 3:12:14 PM PDT by ritewingwarrior
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To: VideoPaul

4 posted on 08/02/2006 3:12:14 PM PDT by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 44-48)
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To: VideoPaul

Soon to be moving to the local cable public access channel.


5 posted on 08/02/2006 3:12:16 PM PDT by John Jorsett (scam never sleeps)
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To: VideoPaul

I've been waiting to bust out the trumpet and play them a rousing redition of TAPS.


6 posted on 08/02/2006 3:12:30 PM PDT by TheRobb7 (http://HeartofAmerica.bravehost.com....Interactive for Conservatives)
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To: VideoPaul

I'm finding it difficult to muster up any sympathy. ;-)


7 posted on 08/02/2006 3:12:31 PM PDT by Recovering Hermit (Apparently, most who protest for peace do so at the expense of hygiene.)
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To: VideoPaul

Thanks, I needed some good news to perk me up.


8 posted on 08/02/2006 3:12:50 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: VideoPaul

This will mean a massive loss of listeners in the NYC area

Prove it. Show me the massive number of listeners in the first place.


9 posted on 08/02/2006 3:12:57 PM PDT by calljack (Sometimes your worst nightmare is just a start.)
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To: VideoPaul

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


10 posted on 08/02/2006 3:13:02 PM PDT by gedeon3
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To: lormand

Life's a b*tch.......when you are liberal!


11 posted on 08/02/2006 3:13:27 PM PDT by newcthem (This is the final crusade, there are only two sides: pick one.(Brought to you by the Infidel Party))
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To: VideoPaul

Libs will claim it is unfair and try yet again to get the government to force radio stations to give equal time to both sides.


12 posted on 08/02/2006 3:14:01 PM PDT by Tai_Chung
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To: VideoPaul

Libs will claim it is unfair and try yet again to get the government to force radio stations to give equal time to both sides.


13 posted on 08/02/2006 3:14:02 PM PDT by Tai_Chung
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To: VideoPaul

14 posted on 08/02/2006 3:14:12 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: VideoPaul

If Air America falls and no one is around to listen, does it still make a sound.


15 posted on 08/02/2006 3:14:16 PM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: VideoPaul
WWRL daytime pattern
WWRL nighttime pattern
WLIB daytime pattern
WLIB nighttime pattern
16 posted on 08/02/2006 3:14:50 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Loose lips sink ships - and the New York Times really doesn't have a problem with sinking ships.)
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To: VideoPaul

NY is the nations largest liberal media market and they need to pay others to carry their BS?


17 posted on 08/02/2006 3:15:01 PM PDT by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans. We Vote.)
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To: lormand

"This will mean a massive loss of listeners in the NYC area as its station is far less in power, even moreso at night, and the pattern much more restrictive."

I guess when you go from 5 to 2 listeners and call that a 60% loss is massive.

You know it is bad when a Carribean station beats you out.


18 posted on 08/02/2006 3:15:02 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Democrats - The reason we need term limits)
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To: dead

19 posted on 08/02/2006 3:15:24 PM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: VideoPaul; potlatch; ntnychik; Smartass; Boazo; Alamo-Girl; PhilDragoo; The Spirit Of Allegiance; ..

good news ping.


20 posted on 08/02/2006 3:15:37 PM PDT by bitt ("And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm.")
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To: lormand

I wasn't aware that WWRL had moved its transmitter, which used to rise 150 feet over 58 street in Woodside.Another problem is that WWRL is as far down the dial as you can get and its quite difficult to acquire if you are not in line of sight of its transmitter. I'm sure we're all broken up over this development.


21 posted on 08/02/2006 3:15:41 PM PDT by xkaydet65 (Peace, Love, Brotherhood, and Firepower. And the greatest of these is Firepower!)
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To: Recovering Hermit

Yeah, you can turn on CNN, MSNBC, NYSlimes, WAPO, or any other mainstream network and be force-fed the same crap as Err America.


22 posted on 08/02/2006 3:15:53 PM PDT by proud_yank (Socialism - An Answer In Search Of A Question For Over 100 Years)
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To: VideoPaul

I guess all the limo liberals in NYC talk the talk but won't walk the walk(soros et al won't put their money where their mouth is and pick up the air america tab)


23 posted on 08/02/2006 3:15:56 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Recovering Hermit

Wait...wait...I think I'm shedding a tear...no...no...sorry, false alarm...was just something in my eye...it's gone now. ;)


24 posted on 08/02/2006 3:15:58 PM PDT by Dr Stormfist
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To: VideoPaul
AirAmerica = The BDS (Bush Delirium Syndrom) infommercial

We interrupt this Billy Mayes "Kaboom" Special to bring you the following program.

25 posted on 08/02/2006 3:16:02 PM PDT by N. Theknow ((Kennedys - Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat - But they know what's best.))
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To: John Jorsett

Cable public access or public radio is the only place these bolsheviks can survive...the market has voted and only the government monopoly of force can keep them alive.


26 posted on 08/02/2006 3:16:18 PM PDT by dogcaller
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To: VideoPaul

BWAHAHAHAHA

Al Franken is a Big Fat Nothing


27 posted on 08/02/2006 3:16:27 PM PDT by spanalot
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To: AmericanMade1776

... Air America's latest is to play the sound of recorded gunshots being "fired" at the President of the United States.

The host of something called "The Randi Rhodes Show" laughed after the gunshots ended http://www.drudgereport.com/mattabt.htm.


28 posted on 08/02/2006 3:16:46 PM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: VideoPaul

If they're paying for the time - is the show a political ad?


29 posted on 08/02/2006 3:17:01 PM PDT by GOPJ (Al Gore - the original "Millions Could Die" kind of guy....)
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To: VideoPaul

Is there no more money to steal from the widows and orphens?


30 posted on 08/02/2006 3:17:56 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: AmericanMade1776

sound clip did not work...pardon


31 posted on 08/02/2006 3:18:04 PM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: VideoPaul
I work about 1 hour south of NYC, and sometimes tune in WLIB on the way home just to hear what the libs are ranting about. Even though I'm just an hour away, the signal often cuts out, or there's so much static (in addition to that of the hosts') that it's difficult to hear what anyone is saying. Conversely, WABC, the NYC station that carries Rush and Sean Hannity has a signal so strong that you can drive down I-95 as far south as the Maryland border, and still get a good, clear signal.
33 posted on 08/02/2006 3:18:38 PM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: VideoPaul
zarqawi
is
deeply
saddened

"How will I get my talking points?"

34 posted on 08/02/2006 3:18:47 PM PDT by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans. We Vote.)
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To: VideoPaul
Any viable, self-respecting syndicated radio show does NOT pay for its carriage on local stations.

You better explain that to the programs carried on WMCA like Dobson's Focus on the Family and others.

35 posted on 08/02/2006 3:18:51 PM PDT by joesbucks
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To: KarlInOhio
And for comparison, WABC the home of Limbaugh and Hannity,

WABC daytime pattern
WABC nighttime pattern

36 posted on 08/02/2006 3:18:54 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Loose lips sink ships - and the New York Times really doesn't have a problem with sinking ships.)
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To: VideoPaul

Air America can't sustain "liberal domain" stations: An inconvenient truth.


37 posted on 08/02/2006 3:19:43 PM PDT by LurkedLongEnough
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To: VideoPaul

Right-wing Radio: Packleader of the Airwaves!


38 posted on 08/02/2006 3:20:08 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: VideoPaul

This is what the word "schadenfreude" was invented for.

Now to wait for the word that they are flipping burgers...


39 posted on 08/02/2006 3:20:26 PM PDT by dsc
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To: Tai_Chung

ah the good ole fairness doctrine. otherwise known as the commie doctrine.libs would just love to institute that again.hopefully they will never get the chance again.


40 posted on 08/02/2006 3:21:32 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: GreenHornet

I listened a couple of times, but they are UN-funny and UN-informative. It was just complaining and kevetching.


41 posted on 08/02/2006 3:21:34 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kaboom"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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To: VideoPaul

"Err America radio, who has been paying WLIB-AM for 100% of its airtime, has lost its home.

It sounds like a liberal radio station to me.

And, me thinks Err America is also liberal.

But what do I know about radio programs. I only used to listen to Bob Grant, a true conservative and American hero. I don't listen to the leftists now on WABC and WOR replacing the King of TalkRadio's hours.


42 posted on 08/02/2006 3:21:37 PM PDT by Marcaurelio
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To: AmericanMade1776

Oh Drats , I am going to miss the Randi Rhodes show today,where they still try to prove a Pentagon cover up regarding NORAD's actions on 9/11 (said with much sarcasm)


43 posted on 08/02/2006 3:21:37 PM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: VideoPaul
I heard somewhere that Soros is putting up the money to keep Air America on the air. Soros is paying for a radio network that no one listens to. Too funny.

What's next? Soros is going to start paying people to listen to Air America?
44 posted on 08/02/2006 3:23:07 PM PDT by Ticonderoga34
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To: bitt

The finest principle of the First Amendment demonstrated. They may have the right of free speech, but no one has to listen to them. And more importantly, no one wants to.


45 posted on 08/02/2006 3:23:16 PM PDT by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: bitt

Yes, it is.


46 posted on 08/02/2006 3:23:32 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Alouette

ululululululululululululululululululululululululul


47 posted on 08/02/2006 3:23:45 PM PDT by SmithL (The fact that they can't find Hoffa is proof that he never existed.)
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To: VideoPaul

Too Bad So Sad

I had Nov 12 2004 in the pool.


48 posted on 08/02/2006 3:24:40 PM PDT by CPT Clay (Drill ANWR, Personal Accounts NOW.)
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To: ritewingwarrior
I'm pulling out the smallest violin in the world to play them a song.

Take your pick...


49 posted on 08/02/2006 3:25:36 PM PDT by LayoutGuru2 (Know the difference between honoring diversity and honoring perversity? No? You must be a liberal!)
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To: VideoPaul

In their first year, there used to be nearly a dozen websites tracking and reporting specifically or mostly on Air America. As of last fall, there's only one left;

http://radioequalizer.blogspot.com/


50 posted on 08/02/2006 3:26:08 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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