Skip to comments.Many Hollywood Jewish leaders silent on Gibson
Posted on 08/03/2006 2:22:06 AM PDT by familyop
LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Superstar Mel Gibson goes on a drunken anti-Semitic tirade and Hollywood's powerful Jewish community finds itself under attack for not speaking up strongly enough in protest.
In the days since Gibson's arrest on suspicion of drunk driving after a wild ride down a Malibu highway, few of the leading Jewish figures in the film industry have publicly commented on Gibson's barrage of anti-Semitic comments.
The actor was formally charged with drunk driving on Wednesday, six days after his arrest and subsequent rant to a police officer about Jews causing all the wars.
On Tuesday, Gibson issued a statement that said in part, "I want to apologize specifically to everyone in the Jewish community for the vitriolic and harmful words that I said..."
Former AOL Time Warner Vice Chairman Merv Adelman was so incensed by the lack of outrage in an industry founded and led by many Jews that he bought a quarter-page ad in the Los Angeles Times to protest the lack of protest.
"Bigots have so often accused our community of being run by Jews that I think it has entered our psyche. We have become so defensive that when faced with a degrading and disgusting incident starring a movie star, we as individuals remain relatively silent," he said in the ad.
"What would this community have done if Mel Gibson had drunkenly ranted and raved about the dirty 'Mexicans' or for that matter used the 'N' words disparagingly as he used the word Jews...?" he asked.
Sounding a similar theme, the Times's film industry columnist Patrick Goldstein wondered aloud why the "Big Kahunas of Hollywood" -- men like director Steven Spielberg and studio bigwigs like Universal's Ron Meyer, DreamWorks' Jeffrey Katzenberg and Paramount's Brad Grey have been silent.
HOLLYWOOD AVOIDS CONFLICT
A spokesman for Spielberg said the director was on vacation and "uncontactable."
Goldstein saw the silence of today's Jewish leaders in Hollywood as continuing a long established pattern of avoiding trouble and trying not to offend -- a pattern that saw actors like Emmanuel Goldenberg and Muni Weisenfreund change their names to Edward G. Robinson and Paul Muni.
"They are all thinking, what happens if he comes out of this and I've said something? He won't work with me when I need him,"' Goldstein quoted producer Howard Rosenman as saying.
TV network ABC on Tuesday pulled a miniseries about the Holocaust that Gibson, a traditional Catholic who built his own church in Malibu, was producing, but refused to say that the cancellation was related to the controversy.
Filmmaker and Time magazine critic Richard Schickel said Hollywood's caution stems in part from that fear of speaking out against one of the most bankable stars in the industry.
"I don't think this is the only reason, but I think many feel he will weather this storm and retain his clout as a star and a director. And if this is what they are doing, that is deplorable," he said.
But Los Angeles Weekly film columnist Nikki Finke says that there are people in Hollywood who are speaking out and who are vowing they would not do business with Gibson in the future.
Among those who have spoken out are prominent agent Ari Emanuel, who called for a boycott of Gibson, and Sony Pictures Chairwoman Amy Pascal who called the actor's comments "incredibly disappointing."
Finke said some of Gibson's critics are people "who have issues of their own" and might have been expected to show some sympathy with a person with an admitted alcoholism problem.
"The problem with Hollywood is that it is one of the most transparent of glass houses and usually the stones are coming from outside in. You have to be careful when you are throwing rocks from the inside because the whole place shatters," she said.
And here's more information.
Posted on 07/31/2006 12:00:03 PM PDT by MikeA
Film star and director Mel Gibson has launched a scathing attack on US President George W Bush, comparing his leadership to the barbaric rulers of the Mayan civilisation in his new film Apocalypto.
The epic, due for release later this year, captures the decline of the Maya kingdom and the slaughter of thousands of inhabitants as human sacrifices in a bid to save the nation from collapsing.
Gibson reveals he used present day American politics as an inspiration, claiming the government callously plays on the nation's insecurities to maintain power.
He tells British film magazine Hotdog, "The fear-mongering we depict in the film reminds me of President Bush and his guys".
(In that incredibly annoying little girls voice of hers) "Waaaaaaah...Whyyyy aren`t yoooou massaging my feet faaaasterrr? Whyyyyyy?? Waaaaaah"
The ADL accepted his apology.
The media sucks. Maybe Mel Gibson is just a total jerk who got busted saying what he really thinks. He'll have to live with that and we all know his game now. Move on to more important issues, like the survival of our nation and our allies in the ME.
Good post, it emphasizes the rant that's been brewing in my mind the past few days. : )
I don`t know, I think all these guys are over-reacting. The guy didn`t say kill all Jews like the Muslims Hollywood cheers for day in day out. What he said was "Jews are the cause for all the wars today" then asked the cop if he was a Jew. This is the same as liberals saying "The US is the cause for all the wars today" and badmouthing Americans like they do while vacationing in the South of France.
I guess all those years of hard drinking and hanging around all those liberals in Hollywood has finally fried his brain, he can`t think for himself anymore.
...well said, Caipirabob. IMO, most readers are more interested in the lives of famous/infamous individuals (as sometimes seen even in the FR sidebar) than our national security, and the popular media feeds them what they want. Also, IMO, the really tough part of the War on Terror is that it will soon intensify enough to get more of our attention soon, or Islamo-fascism (given its tactics) would otherwise seep slowly into our spoiled populations and take us more by surprise in the near future.
As for Mel, BTW, I can't help but suspect that the main issue in his opposition against our President "and his guys" (us "neocons") might be our efforts in the War on Terror. ...which goes back to his comments.
This helps explain Mel. Here is an interview that was done in 2004 with Hutton Gibson, Mel's Dad:
Partial Transcript Of The Steve Feuerstein
Radio Interview With Hutton Gibson
I. The Holocaust
What was this event called the Holocaust?
In the first place the Holocaust is a terrible misnomer. First of all a Holocaust is a burnt offering to G-d. Now these people were not offering themselves up to G-d. If these people were being killed they were being taken there screaming howling and yelling for they were being persecuted and murdered. That is not a Holocaust.
Secondly there were not that many Jews under Hitler's power under his sway. They claimed that there were 6.2 million in Poland before the war and after the war there were 200,000 therefore he (Hitler) must have killed six million of them. They simply got up and left! They were all over the Bronx and Brooklyn and Sydney and Los Angeles.
Everybody was out to get Hitler but you know he was not that efficient. I've known a lot of Germans. The society I went to school to were Germans and they were thorough they were good teachers. They were efficient and they know how to do things. If they had set out to kill six million Jews they would have done it. But all we hear about is Holocaust survivors. "Oh, we know it happened, cause over there is a survivor. Oh, my mother and father were survivors," they say.
This is absolutely ridiculous. And (the Holocaust) it's all - maybe not all fiction - but most of it is. For instance the gas chambers and crematoria at Auschwitz would not do the job. Do you know what it takes to get rid of a dead body? To cremate it? It takes a liter of petrol and 20 minutes - now six million of them? They (the Germans) did not have the gas to do it. That's why they lost the war.
Regarding the gas chamber, the gas was going the wrong way. You see it was going down instead of up .
II. The Concentration Camps
Why didn't FDR bomb the tracks?
You see the concentration camps were filled with people who had to be fed. And when they did bomb the tracks they could not see them any more. And that's where you're supposed Holocaust came in. You see these were work camps. Guess who owned the railroads? The Jews IG Farbin Industries was never touched it was making munitions and doing all things to keep them in the war . The Group Works they also weren't bombed. All they had to do was bomb the group works but they were owned by the Jews. They owned the tracks and the banks so you don't bomb your own stuff. They owned the banking the banking system. Hitler's big crime was operating without the big banks (and the Jews). Just like Russia it had to go since it had no debt.
III. World War II
Why did you enlist if you were against US involvement in WWII?
Came the war (WWII) and I knew my Roosevelt. I knew he would get us into it. So I volunteered. My combat time consisted of four months in Guadalcanal. We all ended up with Malaria, it never goes away. I was with the 132nd infantry. They were holding a perimeter of an airstrip. The marines came in and mowed the place, flattened it out. We flattened out the area before the Japs came in. The Japs you know can't adapt. They come into a situation and they don't change their orders they simply continue and do what their told. An officer (Japanese) stands there and he points two this way and two that way.
Anyway, the marines in the area never heard so much fire in their life rifle fire or whatever type of fire. In the morning there were 800 dead Japs in the open field that they hoped to sneak through. And the next night the fools didn't do any better the fools came back and lost 700 and the third night after they lost 600. We had to clean up the bodies each morning so they could have room to move in the next day.
During WWII they were giving us this jazz. They said we were attacked. Well alright but we didn't realize that at that time the attack was a put up job by "the man" - I am talking about our beloved FDR who had practically forced the Japanese to attack and destroy the entire Pacific Fleet. They knew they were coming in Washington. FDR pushed us into the war.
It was FDRs own private war. He went there for money. The money power that runs this country. The Fed Reserve and those foreign bankers who own our currency and charge us for it. The foreign bankers who run the international reserve like the Rothchilds and their allies in this country like the Rockerfellers who were Jews and others who own the money.
We have given the whole control to the Fed Reserve. Greenspan tells us what to do. Someone should take him out and hang him. The Ford Foundation, Rockefeller Foundation, the Carnegies are all communists. They are enemies of the country. When they want to pull the plug on us we're going down the drain.
There is a book out not too long ago listing the big Jewish families in the country which lists the Rockefellers as Jewish and there was no protest.
IV. The Jews & Money
Why Do the Jews construct Holocaust Museums?
There are too many survivors. It's just a gimmick to collect money. They have to go where there is money. There is no way they would come to West Virginia. They have to have some place to go that has money. They didn't work in the mines you can bet your boots no they don't work anywhere where they can get out of it. They're great pencil pushers they are the superior people and therefore they are entitled to the top jobs supervisory stuff and so on because they hire each other They have so much influence in the banks for instance They all look out for one another you got to give them that. They are at the same time willing to sacrifice a few of theirs if it helps
And the demand for reparations?
Why all the reparations? It's an irresistible chance to make money. All those Holocaust museums put up at our expense with our tax payer dollars.
VI. Jewish World Domination
What do the Jews aim to achieve?
I don't know what their (the Jews) agenda is except that it's all about control. They're after one world religion and one world government. That's why they've attacked the Catholic Church so strongly, to ultimately take control over it by their doctrine and make one world religion and one world government.
VII. Rabbi Marvin Heir
Your concerned about Mel's health?
"The rabbi for hire" that's even what the Jews refer to him as. He had one of these snarley voices. These people are vengeance bound. They will chase down people like Demjanjuk they almost got him killed and eventually it was proved innocent of all charges. Yeah, Ivan the Terrible, they said.
VIII. The Anti-Defamation League
Why did the ADL oppose the film?
This is part of their deal they don't want this movie shown they don't care if the movie is anti-Semitic or not, or if it is straight history. Mel says he absolutely couldn't buy PR like this. And (thanks to the ADL) everybody knows the line now: Let the blood be upon us and our children.
IX. The Pope & The Vatican
What do you aim to achieve by screening the film before the vatican - Why did you need the Pope's Approval?
And anyway somebody said why do you suppose he (the Pope) approved the movie? I said what do you think he would say when it comes out and he disapproved it. The ones that we have there (in the Vatican) are all involved in the (Jewish) plot. The need of the Vatican endorsement wasn't, it just wasn't needed at all. The only reason they went over is that the ADL had threatened to take the film over and show it to them.
They would have to steal it to do so they did already. One of the guys in the office said why don't we take it over to the Vatican and show it to them anyway cause they wanted to see it and they did want to see it. And Mel said "OK lets take it over and show it to them." They were not after any accolade. They just wanted to take it away from the ADL who was going to go in there and put some pressure on like they can and get a condemnation of it.
No, no we had no idea of helping out the Vatican in any way. You see here we have what we call a hostile witness. As Mel said while they were on the way over, "What is he going to say is he going to condemn it because when it comes out he'll show what a big ass he is." What the heck could he say? The Jews were going to take it to the Vatican this was the argument from one his producers there, Steve McEveety. Mel said "Go ahead. Let us do it." The ADL might have even taken a few shots themselves and shown the Pope something that was not in the film. There is nothing these guys would not do
What is the plot that you keep referring to?
They (the Sanhedrin) had a good thing going in the temple they were selling the victims to be sacrificed. And he went in and overturned their tables he tried once before but this they had enough reason to get rid of him. That's one of the charges they put against him that he put himself equal to G-d. And this is blasphemy and therefore it deserves death. They knew what he was after and they were killing him just for that. They cannot admit that they were wrong. They have been at it for all of history. Is the Jew still actively anti-Christian - He is, for by being a Jew, he is anti everyone else.
XI. Eye For An Eye
Hutton Gibson Continues
They are the people with an eye for eye and tooth for a tooth. They must have revenge. You know they (the Jews) caused the Roman persecutions too. They called attention to the fact that the Christians were refusing to offer incense to the emperors when the
emperors became gods. The Jews were notable for getting the wood to burn the Christians a labor of love you could say.
To a Jew a Christian commits idolatry every time a he looks at a crucifix and says a prayer.
You know there in control and they're going to get in control the way things are going.
Because they get all of our people They killed several generations of us Americans (referring to WWI, WWII) The Jews weren't in the army much in WWI that because they were fomenting a revolt in Russia. America had no right to fight in foreign wars (in reference to WWI and WWII).
XII. Revolution in America: Bloodless or Violent
What is going to become of our country here in america?
We're going to have to do something now in this country because that government is useless.
There's a line the Declaration of Independence where somebody abolishes or sets aside or misgoverns it is our privilege the constitution it is the peoples obligation to abolish that government. I think there is a way There is a bloodless way to do it if we can swing it: secession. Just get all states to secede from the government and leave it there high and dry.
The alternative is eventually they are going to clamp down on us and we are going to have the same terror and we are going to have to revolt with a gun or we are going to face the same (governmental) terror Were going to have to do something fairly soon because the longer it goes the more power they get and the less we have.
But let a pro-Jesus, drunk actor make some comments and Tinsel Town decides it had better "do something"!
This whole Mel Gibson thing is a hoot in a handbag, to me. The left is trying to pull another Trent Lott here -- "Apologies don't matter" "We demand you be SHUNNED, HALTED, PREVENTED, OBLITERATED, CASTRATED, IN JAIL, DEAD, MAIMED, CONDEMNED BY THE UN, HUGGED BY HELEN THOMAS..." etc.
For add on purposes.. (chuckling), I wanna hear what Danny Glover has to say about Mel's verbiage and behavior. How come no one's rushing the microphone in Danny Glover's face, eh?
Besides, Hollyweird tends to adore "suicide bombers". In a metaphysic way, Mel Just did a career "Suicide Dance". Where's the love?
Michael Savage is sounding looney these days, however he is right about this thing with Mel Gibson. The ADL and other Jewish organizations are going after Gibson for a nice big donation. They're shaking him down. You don't see them going after Farakahn or a host of others who bash the Jews daily.
And what did Gibson say? That the jews are responsible for all the wars in world? Maybe it's true, who knows. I do know this, I feel good for the first time, knowing that this president is totally behind Israel.
Gibson also lays his lash on New York Times columnist Frank Rich. Responding to remarks about the Holocaust made in The Times by Gibson's father, Hutton Gibson, Rich accused the actor's camp of using "PR spin to defend a Holocaust denier."
Mel Gibson says of Rich, "I want to kill him. I want his intestines on a stick. ... I want to kill his dog." (Rich told us, through a Times spokeswoman, "I don't have a dog.")
The article says Gibson reluctantly took out a scene in which Caiaphas, a Jewish high priest, says of Christ, "His blood be on us, and on our children." The passage, from the Gospel of Matthew, has been interpreted by some as implicating the Jewish people in Jesus' Crucifixion.
"I wanted it in," Gibson tells Boyer. "But, man, if I included that in there, they'd be coming after me at my house, they'd come kill me."
My thoughts exactly.
If Mel had Teed off on JESUS the Hollywood gang would embrace him .
"Superstar Mel Gibson goes on a drunken anti-Semitic tirade and Hollywood's powerful Jewish community finds itself under attack for not speaking up strongly enough in protest."
Why would they if they stand a chance to make money off of him in the future?
Are you sure his name is Hutton and not Hitler Gibson? No wonder Mel is an alcoholic and supposedly suicidal. Can you imagine the confusion going on in this guys head?
There are no "Jewish Leaders".
Love your movies. Hope you feel better about Jews some day.
FrPR (an observant Jew.)
I don't much like the ADLm but I've read the ADL's acceptance of his apology, checked their website and have seen absolutely nothing that would indicate this has anything to do with fundraising.
They're Jews, after all, and Jews hunger for money, so it's possible.
They're crafty too, I've read implications on other threads this might have been a set up. The cop was a Jew, after all.
As as you note. the Jews might be responsible for all wars.
In which case Mel's apology is a steaming pile of horse *rap.
Under the circumstances, silence would be best.
If you want to see what got me going on the Mel issue, the following is one of many items of a growing trend over the past 2 1/2 years or so. It's nothing new and has repeatedly been issued for about a couple of thousand years. It will eventually be stopped, one way or another.
Israel, Palastine, and the Middle East
The thread you referenced has been pulled.