Posted on 08/03/2006 7:42:40 PM PDT by Marius3188
Ancient Hawaiians started building their monumental temples at least three centuries earlier than previously thought, a new study suggests.
They also spent more time building them, renovating and constructing new temples in waves depending on the island's political situation.
"This research provides conclusive evidence that the Maui temple network grew and expanded over a period at least five centuries," said Michael Kolb, an anthropologist at Northern Illinois University and author of the study. "It's clear that the temple system evolved as part of a long trajectory of social and political change that also saw a shift from ancestral to sacrificial worship."
Kolb spent more than a decade on the island of Maui gathering samples from the ruins of 40 separate temples, which Hawaiians call heiau. Because the land under each temple was scorched to make way for building, Kolb was able to use radiocarbon dating to assert that the first stones were laid on the earliest around the beginning of the 13th century.
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"Can I change my screen name to "Big Kahuna"?"
Better not.
You'll get angry radical Native Hawaiians saying they are outraged at your disrespect.
http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2004/Feb/05/ln/ln24a.html
From one who knows.
Whoops! Sorry.
Thanks Marius3188!
Deja Vu
"Hawaiian Temples Much Older Than Thought"
How did they create temples without thinking about them?
Whoops.
Yes. I figured that out the first time I went there. :D
Who knew Hawaiians were Jewish? And why do I suddenly crave Orange Crush? "When Johnny comes marching home again, oi, veh!"
I just hope you have really good luggage... and no brain fog.
The creation of the temples would be constitutional to their Being. Thought may follow although not necessarily.
So I wasn't the only person who saw that movie. The only person who LIKED it, maybe... but not the only person who saw it.
(Meg Ryan times three, and people hated it?)
I liked it when I saw it in a theater (was that you?). Rented it for my wife; she thought it was a bit quirky, but liked it, too.
I've been wanting a set of trunks like that ever since, though.
How about King Kamehameha instead???
I thought they were Druish. May the Schwartz be with you!
"How about King Kamehameha instead???"
That's even worse! Last year they were going to make a movie about Kamehameha starring Dwayne Johnson (aka the wrestler "The Rock"). The Hawaiian activists shot that down pretty quickly as disrespectful and racially insensitive to not consider using one of them as the lead (even though The Rock is half-Samoan).
Had they succeeded in getting "their guy" into the role, the next step would have been gaining artistic control over the script and story line. And then, a cut of the profits to support pet "heritage" projects.
btt
The latest scheme is they want to develop a "Native copyright," protected by law, that means only those with Hawaiian blood can make what they deem "native products," or incorporate native elements or themes.
This is a scarey, if not racially predjudical, idea. Not to beat a dead horse but this smacks of limits on freedom of speech and expression by non-natives. Liberals will love the concept.
You can read about it here:
http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060730/NEWS23/607300356/1173/NEWS
I agree with you, it seems to me there are some real problems with this concept.
well, if you ARE curious the 'science' had been saying that the temples started at a period much later than the Hawaiian oral histories said when they were built..ie, when the preist Paoa brought the cut people up cult and heavy social stratification to the islands...but 'official' archaeology is now discovering what many archs believed all along..that the Hawaiians knew what they were talking about..and the movie included wars between the Hawaiians and Samoans..even Hawaiians don't like to paddle THAT much..do you really blame the native people for being paranoid about outsiders ideas? after all they didn't even get barren reservations from stealing unca' sam.
Darrel
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