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Dehumanizing others is no virtue (WEEKLY GREELEY ALERT)
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | August 4, 2006 | ANDREW GREELEY

Posted on 08/04/2006 10:25:31 AM PDT by Chi-townChief

To hate other humans or to feel no pain at their suffering, it is necessary to dehumanize them, to write them off as less than human. The Nazis are the classic example of this dehumanization. Germans were the obermensch, the master race. Jews, Slavs, Gypsies were the untermensch, the inferior peoples who barely had the right to exist.

The Puritans dehumanized Native Americans, white Americans dehumanized African Americans, Irish Protestants and Catholics in Northern Ireland dehumanized one another, as do Jews and Arabs in the Mideast, and Shiite and Sunni Muslims. In every case, one attributes to the "other" characteristics that prove that they are not fully human by the use of stereotypes -- "illegals," for example. The American soldiers who tortured, beat, raped and murdered Iraqis dismiss their victims as "rag heads." The rest of us are able to ignore the pain and the grief of ordinary Iraqis, as I learned from responses to my last column, by arguing that Iraq was involved in the Sept. 11 attack or that Saddam Hussein killed far more than have died under our inept and unplanned "occupation."

The first argument is ignorant. Bush administration officials have admitted in whispers that no evidence has been found of a link between al-Qaida and Iraq. It is also immoral because it assumes that revenge is appropriate. The second argument reveals twisted immorality. Because Saddam was a mass murderer, Americans are not responsible for our failure to protect Iraqis when we have taken charge of their country. He was worse than we are, he killed through commission, we kill (for the most part) through omission. Our only sins were to make war on the basis of false arguments with little understanding of the people whose social system we destroyed and to establish an occupation of arrogant incompetence. Thus the ineffable Paul Wolfowitz, the intellectual architect of the Iraq war, could say, "I think that there are ethnic differences in Iraq, but they are exaggerated."

Right! The Kurds, Sunnis and Shiites will be too busy celebrating our liberation to kill one another. It is unlikely that Wolfowitz assumes any responsibility for what went wrong.

So you see, the e-mail that makes this argument implies, why should we feel any guilt because Saddam was much worse than we are? Baldly stated, that argument is nonsense and immoral nonsense at that. Yet many Americans are still ready to use it to wash their hands of the pain and suffering, the fear and the horror of innocent Iraqis we have betrayed.

Joel Preston Smith, one of my e-mail commentators, writes he was in Iraq before the war and after it began. "If I hadn't been treated so well, maybe I wouldn't feel so connected to the families and friends who sheltered me, fed me, helped me do my work. But I see the vast majority of Iraqis as incredibly kind, thoughtful people. And it is a knife in my heart, every day, to see them suffer." Many Americans do feel a similar knife, but many others dispense themselves from any feelings of grief or responsibility.

Moreover, when Americans finally "cut and run" -- as Ronald Reagan did in Lebanon -- there is no reason to think that Baathist leaders of the insurgency (from the safe haven of Syria) will not re-install Saddam or someone as bad as he was.

The man who was to lead the military police contingent into Iraq was promised 20 battalions of MPs. At the last minute, to prove Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld's point that not many troops would be needed to dispose of Saddam, his contingent was cut to three battalions. If he had his full complement, he might have been able to prevent the looting that provided weapons for the insurgency. Rumsfeld dismissed the looting as something that was inevitable and not important. "Stuff happens."

Are all Americans responsible for the administration's ignorance and arrogance in Iraq? Surely not. Yet those who still defend the war with clichés and phony arguments despite all the published evidence to the contrary are whistling in the dark as they pass the graveyard.

mailto:agreel@aol.com


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Illinois; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: andrewgreeley; antiamericanism; blameamericafirst; deadwhitemales; greeley; iraqwar; liberalbigot; saddamhussein; saddamite
On the other hand, Greeley seems just fine with 100 million killed by his commie buds.
1 posted on 08/04/2006 10:25:33 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: Chi-townChief

white trash, crackers, rednecks, trailer trash, lily white.


2 posted on 08/04/2006 10:28:13 AM PDT by ansel12 (Life is exquisite... of great beauty, keenly felt.)
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To: Chi-townChief
Dehumanizing others is no virtue

Which is the essence of islam - those who are not muslim are non-islamic scum - worth of only rape, murdered and slavery.

3 posted on 08/04/2006 10:29:26 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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To: Chi-townChief
Bush administration officials have admitted in whispers that no evidence has been found of a link between al-Qaida and Iraq.

An absolute bald faced lie.

4 posted on 08/04/2006 10:29:45 AM PDT by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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To: Chi-townChief

I remember seeing this grinning fool Greely on the Katie Couric show a year or two ago ... and this fellow calls himself a Roman Catholic priest??


5 posted on 08/04/2006 10:30:04 AM PDT by Ken522
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To: Chi-townChief
Are all Americans responsible for the administration's Andrew Greeley's ignorance and arrogance?
6 posted on 08/04/2006 10:31:38 AM PDT by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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To: Chi-townChief

"Grog no like people that dehumanize".
7 posted on 08/04/2006 10:32:17 AM PDT by DoctorMichael (A wall first. A wall now.)
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To: Chi-townChief

I guess Greeley's judgementalism is a virtue?Greeley is a Pharisee.


8 posted on 08/04/2006 10:32:40 AM PDT by keithtoo (Israeli defense strategy "Cogito Ergo Boom!")
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To: Chi-townChief

"or that Saddam Hussein killed far more than have died under our inept and unplanned "occupation."

The Left keeps insisting that Iraqis were better off under Saddam Hussein. Fat Ted Kennedy said that Abu Ghraib had just reopened under new management. How many hands have we chopped off? How many women have been taken to rape rooms? How many wives have been disemboweled in front of prisoners at Abu Ghraib?

The left is sick.


9 posted on 08/04/2006 10:34:18 AM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: Chi-townChief

It's a little hard to dehumanize some people any more than than they do to themselves.

Sawing heads off innocent unarmed people, killing women over honor just because they went out in public without a man, hiding and firing rockets from civilian areas to draw return fire and have the civilians killed, using ambulances to transport terrorists and weapons. I could go on but everybody gets the point.


10 posted on 08/04/2006 10:34:26 AM PDT by PeteB570 (Sharia. Coming to a town near you.)
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To: 2banana

Don't forget Sunni dogs and Shiite pigs, or is it the other way around?


11 posted on 08/04/2006 10:34:26 AM PDT by magslinger (Without Freedom, Utopia isn't paradise after all. It's just hell in a fancy prom dress. Steven James)
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To: Chi-townChief
Bush administration officials have admitted in whispers that no evidence has been found of a link between al-Qaida and Iraq.

Allow me to translate:

"Greely cannot find any assertions by Bush administration officials that no evidence has been found of a link between al-Qaida and Iraq, so he'll simply make it up."

12 posted on 08/04/2006 10:35:04 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Islam is a perversion of faith, a lie against human spirit, an obscenity shouted in the face of G_d)
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To: Chi-townChief
"Saddam has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Queda members."

Hillary Clinton - October 2002

13 posted on 08/04/2006 10:35:31 AM PDT by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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To: Chi-townChief

Oh, right ... I get it.

Kinda like the way the Left says babies aren't babies, merely non-viable cell masses.

They make it easy to hate the President by calling him Hitler.

The MSM does it when they focus on the 'civilian' deaths in Lebanon, yet pay scant attention to the Jewish civilians slaughtered in their beds by the jihadis all these past years.


14 posted on 08/04/2006 10:36:06 AM PDT by jwfiv
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To: keithtoo

And a Philistine as well.


15 posted on 08/04/2006 10:36:39 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: Chi-townChief
"Yet those who still defend the war with clichés and phony arguments despite all the published evidence to the contrary are whistling in the dark as they pass the graveyard. "

Father you stupid dupe. We have spent our blood and treasure to bring freedom, democracy and prosperity to Iraq. We have built schools, roads and hospitals. We have done all we can to free those people from a dictator who was dangerous to them and to us...to you. So don't get all holy with me. I don't want to hear the lectures that you should be giving to the murdering terrorists who are killing innocent civilians in droves. I stand proudly by the president of the US and I say we should fight the terrorist to our last breath. Stiffen your spine. It's going to be ugly. Now go back to writing your silly novels.

Signed,

A fellow Catholic. ailto:agreel@aol.com

16 posted on 08/04/2006 10:42:02 AM PDT by Hound of the Baskervilles ("Well, Watson, we seem to have fallen upon evil days.")
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To: Chi-townChief
Bush administration officials have admitted in whispers that no evidence has been found of a link between al-Qaida and Iraq.

Horsecrap.

17 posted on 08/04/2006 10:42:58 AM PDT by dirtboy (Why does Israel take border security seriously but we do not, when Islamists wish us both harm?)
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To: Chi-townChief
Joel Preston Smith, one of my e-mail commentators, writes he was in Iraq before the war and after it began. "If I hadn't been treated so well, maybe I wouldn't feel so connected to the families and friends who sheltered me, fed me, helped me do my work. But I see the vast majority of Iraqis as incredibly kind, thoughtful people. And it is a knife in my heart, every day, to see them suffer." Many Americans do feel a similar knife, but many others dispense themselves from any feelings of grief or responsibility.

What kind of work was that? Human shield? The contractors didn't go in until after the war (in which Saddam was toppled). Doesn't sound like he was with the army either. Even a journalist would have a hotel room. So what kind of sympathizer was this and why should we take his word without hearing who his side is?

A google search of his name and Iraq identifies him as a "Peacemaking delegate" (of the “Iraq Peace Team” www.iraqpeaceteam.org) and a photojournalist. He webpublished a series of photos titled ""Living With the Enemy" - January 14-24, 2003 in Baghdad, Iraq."

Iraq Peace Team is not affiliated with Human Shield projects. Though we hope to remain in Iraq in the event of an attack, we don't consider ourselves “human shields." IPT exists to stand in solidarity with the peoples of Iraq. Voices in the Wilderness refuses to incorporate military language or ideas to describe the peace witness of IPT members.

18 posted on 08/04/2006 10:43:12 AM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: Hound of the Baskervilles

Oh darn it. I don't know how that signature agreel@aol.com got left in my post 16. It was my post. Sorry about that.


19 posted on 08/04/2006 10:45:30 AM PDT by Hound of the Baskervilles ("Well, Watson, we seem to have fallen upon evil days.")
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To: Chi-townChief
If we didn't care about the people of Iraq, we would have destroyed their country and left. Instead, we've spent billions and lost troops giving them a chance to establish a civil society.

Greeley, on the other hand, seems to be celebrating, in advance, the day that a new thug comes to power. Whatever is bad for the United States puts a smile in Greeley's shriveled little heart, and just screw the people who will be forced back to a life under tyranny.

It is embarrassing that this creature is a Catholic priest.
20 posted on 08/04/2006 10:46:38 AM PDT by stop_fascism
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Bush administration officials have admitted in whispers that no evidence has been found of a link between al-Qaida and Iraq.

Whispers? I've never heard the Administration say that the two groups were ever linked, so why would they have to whisper any sort of denial.

Evidence of just such a link has been found, however, in the millions of documents captured at the beginning of the war in 2003. Perhaps Fr. Greeley is simply ingnoring that; I'd call that willful ignorance.

21 posted on 08/04/2006 11:05:50 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: keithtoo

This guy has what I call the Jimmuh ibn Qarter Syndrome. This malady manifests itself in a number of ways: (1) self-righteousness, (2) identification with America-hater thugs and dictators, (3) failure to note vast moral distinctions between democracies and despotisms, (4) belief the sufferer walks on water, (5) irrational belief that thugs can be trusted implicitly in negotiation, (6) belief that peace, rather than liberty, is the highest virtue, (7) irrational belief that that one ought to negotiate with enemies on the basis of weakness, rather than strength, (8) abject failure to recognize that truly evil individuals actually exist in the world.


22 posted on 08/04/2006 11:54:29 AM PDT by attiladhun2 (evolution has both deified and degraded humanity)
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To: Chi-townChief

The left is going to try and dehumanize conservatives as they have done with 'fetuses'


23 posted on 08/04/2006 11:54:55 AM PDT by GeronL (http://www.mises.org/story/1975 <--no such thing as a fairtax)
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To: Chi-townChief

I'm so sure Greeley would have had no problem with American soldiers killing hundreds of Iraqi looters in those days.

/sarcasm


24 posted on 08/04/2006 12:01:54 PM PDT by Democratshavenobrains
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To: Chi-townChief; aculeus; Senator Bedfellow; Billthedrill; AnAmericanMother; dead; Xenalyte; ...
Something wrong here.

Yet those who still defend the war with clichés and phony arguments despite all the published evidence to the contrary are whistling in the dark as they pass the graveyard.

25 posted on 08/04/2006 12:02:03 PM PDT by dighton
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To: Chi-townChief


Bin Laden:

My what a good little Dhimmi. When we conquer Chicago in the Jihad be sure to let this one live Al Wackjob.


26 posted on 08/04/2006 1:01:43 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Fire Murtha Now! Spread the word. Support Diana Irey. http://www.irey.com/)
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To: Chi-townChief

I, for one, support the demonization and dehumanizing of our enemies.

Dehumanizing others IS a virtue if you're at war with 'em: Huns, Nips, Krauts, Wops, Gooks, etc., were all enemies at some point.

If you DON'T demonize and dehumanize 'em you get bleeding hearts weeping over every civilian casualty inflicted (and the treasonous media encouraging them...). You're unable to prosecute the war because you might hurt a civilian and offend a whiny constituent. Never mind that those same civilians (or their parents) are the ones who fund and equip the enemy troops or send their children to blow themselves and others up.

Not for nothing did Homer sing of "Strong Hate, Savior of Nations..."


27 posted on 08/04/2006 1:13:39 PM PDT by Little Ray (If you want to be a martyr, we want to martyr you.)
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