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Boy, 8, accused of playground sex assault
Pioneer Press ^ | August 4 2006 | DOUG BELDEN

Posted on 08/04/2006 4:05:47 PM PDT by jmc1969

An 8-year-old boy accused of sexually assaulting a second-grade classmate last week at a St. Paul elementary school now faces expulsion.

The incident happened on the playground at Four Seasons A+ Elementary, which holds classes year round, as students waited for buses just before the end of the day July 24.

The boy is believed to have approached an 8-year-old girl on a slide, forced her to kiss his private parts and then simulated sex on her, according to school district officials and members of the girl's family.

The slide was enclosed by a tube, making it impossible for the teacher on duty to see what was happening, said Marilyn Baeker, acting area superintendent who oversees Four Seasons.

St. Paul police spokesman Tom Walsh confirmed that police received a report alleging sexual contact between two juveniles, both age 8, had occurred at Four Seasons.

A sex crimes investigator looked at the case, but because of the suspect's age, it went no further with police, Walsh said. Under Minnesota law, children under age 10 cannot be charged with criminal offenses.

Police referred the case to a Ramsey County program for young offenders, All Children Excel. The program aims to identify children age 9 and under who are at high risk of becoming what is known as serious, violent and chronic offenders.

The boy was suspended and has been recommended for expulsion, said district spokesman Rich Goldsmith.

Another second-grade boy who was present during the incident was suspended for a week, Baeker said. She said that boy is not believed to have participated directly in the alleged assault but also did not intervene to help.

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1 posted on 08/04/2006 4:05:48 PM PDT by jmc1969
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To: jmc1969

One of Klinton's illegitimate progeny, perhaps?


2 posted on 08/04/2006 4:07:07 PM PDT by MarineDad (Whenever mosques and JDAM's meet, civilization benefits.)
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To: jmc1969

well, they probably started sex-ed in Kindergarten in that state


3 posted on 08/04/2006 4:08:15 PM PDT by GeronL (http://www.mises.org/story/1975 <--no such thing as a fairtax)
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To: jmc1969

Bizarre. This would make me want to look into the home life of this child. I'm trying hard not to make assumptions, but it is so strange.


4 posted on 08/04/2006 4:09:08 PM PDT by Kaylee Frye
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To: jmc1969

The kid must have just hearing the unfiltered history of the Clinton presidency.


5 posted on 08/04/2006 4:09:14 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Free Republic is Currently Suffering a Pandemic of “Bush Derangement Syndrome.”)
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To: jmc1969
Maybe it's the TV channels that are on in the living room. How many Viagra and Cialis commercials has this child heard?

-PJ

6 posted on 08/04/2006 4:10:18 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: jmc1969

The more that our pop culture sexualizes children, the more this kind of thing will happen.


7 posted on 08/04/2006 4:10:48 PM PDT by Continental Soldier
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To: jmc1969

movies/TV mimic reality or child mimics movies/TV?


8 posted on 08/04/2006 4:11:41 PM PDT by t1b8zs
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To: COEXERJ145

***"The Clinton Legacy" ping***


9 posted on 08/04/2006 4:12:10 PM PDT by My2Cents (A pirate's life for me.)
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To: MarineDad

No question, where these kids got the idea from....

And in the peculiar underground world in which school children dwell in, these sorts of ideas have WIDE currency. No matter HOW much their parents show concern and try to keep them protected.

Another strong argument for home-schooling.


10 posted on 08/04/2006 4:12:24 PM PDT by alloysteel (My spelling is Wobbly. It's good spelling, but it Wobbles, and the letters get in the wrong places.)
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To: jmc1969

When I was 8 years old, I didn't know what sex was.


11 posted on 08/04/2006 4:12:35 PM PDT by My2Cents (A pirate's life for me.)
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To: alloysteel

good .


12 posted on 08/04/2006 4:12:56 PM PDT by t1b8zs
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To: alloysteel
Another strong argument for home-schooling.

BTTT

13 posted on 08/04/2006 4:13:16 PM PDT by My2Cents (A pirate's life for me.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

a boy of 8 does not know about pelvic thrusts or oral sex unless he's seen hard core pornography, or been abused himself. I agree, look into the home life of that boy. This doesn't pass the smell test.


14 posted on 08/04/2006 4:13:39 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: My2Cents

Iam mid 50's single,well off in rural CT.neither do I


15 posted on 08/04/2006 4:14:49 PM PDT by t1b8zs
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To: t1b8zs

Lol


16 posted on 08/04/2006 4:18:05 PM PDT by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: jmc1969
My first thought was, "Where does an 8 year old learn about these things"?

Then I realized he probably learned about it from TV News during the rein of our previous President, Bill Clinton, who made oral sex an acceptable topic of discussion.

17 posted on 08/04/2006 4:18:12 PM PDT by CometBaby (You can twist perceptions .. reality won't budge!)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
pelvic thrusts,oral sex?
Where did you read that?
18 posted on 08/04/2006 4:19:27 PM PDT by t1b8zs
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To: t1b8zs

Clinton's memoirs.


19 posted on 08/04/2006 4:20:18 PM PDT by MarineDad (Whenever mosques and JDAM's meet, civilization benefits.)
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To: Kaylee Frye

Kind of makes one wonder if one or both of the parents are into pornography.


20 posted on 08/04/2006 4:21:13 PM PDT by exzoomie
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To: jmc1969
Why do liberals get so upset? Its not sex. "I did not have sexual relations with that little girl."

(Go Israel, Go! Slap 'Em Down Hezbullies.)

21 posted on 08/04/2006 4:21:14 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: jmc1969

I for one think it's disgusting for anyone to behave this way, let alone an 8 year old boy. Something is NOT right, and whether it's the home life, parenting, what he's seen on tv or (real life for that matter) and/or what he's being taught in school, sadly, everything could come into play in today's world.

But I haven't seen anyone look at the other side of the coin here, and ask if what the girl and her family have said could be "false" in any way or made up? Who is to say this little girl isn't abused and/or is looking for attention or something?

In today's world anything is possible. I pray not, but wow... They say there are 3 sides to a story, hers, his and the truth, and I can only imagine the truth behind this story.


22 posted on 08/04/2006 4:23:06 PM PDT by Lucky9teen (Ask not what the government can do for you. Ask why it doesn't.)
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To: CometBaby
Then I realized he probably learned about it from TV News during the rein of our previous President, Bill Clinton, who made oral sex an acceptable topic of discussion.

Given that Clinton left office five and a half years ago, and this child is eight, I doubt that a two and a half-year old was watching much TV News at the time.

23 posted on 08/04/2006 4:23:13 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Political Junkie Too
Maybe it's the TV channels that are on in the living room. How many Viagra and Cialis commercials has this child heard?

Amen! Getting to be annoying to try to watch something with my son only to see 10 or 20 commercials of "Bob and his 48 hour boner" being run ad-nausium. Not to mention the underware commmercials are getting out of control as well.

24 posted on 08/04/2006 4:24:13 PM PDT by Bommer
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To: CometBaby
Let's get real. The kid was not even born for most of the Clinton coverage, and couldn't have even begun talking at the time of the impeachment.

The odds are far more likely that he himself is the victim of abuse, or has seen this sort of activity at home, which is a form of abuse itself. This is one situation that I hope child protective services is really examining hard.

And I pray that the girl is getting some guidance and help. Something like that can make a child feel dirty and defiled for decades.

26 posted on 08/04/2006 4:32:35 PM PDT by worst-case scenario (Striving to reach the light)
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To: jmc1969

I have to wonder what this child has been exposed to. I am not saying the boy was or is abused but maybe mom and dad watch porn or forget to lock the bedroom door. Children do not come up with this behavior on their own.


27 posted on 08/04/2006 4:34:32 PM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: jmc1969

I'm watching the local coverage on this right now. Because the alleged assault occured in an enclosed tube slide, hiding the incident........you guess it!!

They're dismantling and/or capping off all of the tube slides on the playground!!!!

Watch for legislative action banning any sort of tube slides in the "State Where Nothing Is Allowed".


28 posted on 08/04/2006 4:36:32 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Jack Murtha. BAH!)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
WE NEED SLIDE CONTROL:

Registration of slides, restrictions on high-capacity slides, prohibition on "junk slides", no "kid-killer" slides, amor-piercing slides...

29 posted on 08/04/2006 4:43:01 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: gaijin
Where was Barbara Fienstein when we were ENCOURAGING kids to use slides? You know what? I think there are *slides* in INNER-CITY NEIGHBORHOODS...!

If it saves so much as ONE CHILD from intra-slide abuse, then it's worth it!

30 posted on 08/04/2006 4:44:40 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: t1b8zs

it said he "forced her to kiss his private parts" and then said that he "simulated sex" on her. So I interpret that he was trying for her to do oral sex, and then thrusted up against her.


31 posted on 08/04/2006 4:45:05 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: lastchance
They get it from the "Air Waves"
aka public TV
32 posted on 08/04/2006 4:46:49 PM PDT by t1b8zs
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To: jmc1969

8 years old!

I had no idea what my weenie was for at that age!


33 posted on 08/04/2006 4:48:43 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in RVN meant never having to say I was sorry....)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

ok fine


34 posted on 08/04/2006 4:49:41 PM PDT by t1b8zs
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To: gaijin

I recognize your sarcasm.

But I'm tellin' ya..........

We used to have a state legislator by the name of Wes Skoglund. He had a thing about "window peekers". Everything that Republicans supported and he opposed, he claimed would be beneficial, in some way to perverts and window peekers.

In 2003, when we finally got the "Minnesota Citizens Personal Protection Act" (CCW Shall Issue) passed into law, over Wes's filibusters, he claimed that the state would be overrun with permitted window peekers carrying concealed weapons.

I'm not kidding.


35 posted on 08/04/2006 4:51:19 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Jack Murtha. BAH!)
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To: MindBender26
thats why they called it a "weenie ".....
Now, hopefully its yer "Johnson" or something other than a"weenie " . http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/weenie%20
36 posted on 08/04/2006 4:56:01 PM PDT by t1b8zs
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To: Kaylee Frye
This would make me want to look into the home life of this child. I'm trying hard not to make assumptions, but it is so strange.

The boy has either been abused himself, or (more likely) has easy access to pornography at home, either on cable or on the Internet.

37 posted on 08/04/2006 4:58:05 PM PDT by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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To: Kaylee Frye

Unfortunately stuff like this is happening ever more frequently at school. At my local primary school a young teacher was asked on the first day of school what color her panties were (this was asked by a 7 year old boy).


38 posted on 08/04/2006 4:58:32 PM PDT by MissEdie
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To: worst-case scenario

Your points are all well taken and logical. I stand corrected. Thanks.

Comet


39 posted on 08/04/2006 5:11:51 PM PDT by CometBaby (You can twist perceptions .. reality won't budge!)
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To: GeronL

Brave New World?


40 posted on 08/04/2006 5:13:51 PM PDT by Chanticleer (Courage is not simply one of the virtues but the form of every virtue at the testing point. Lewis)
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To: jmc1969

Probably perfectly normal home: No TV screening. Kids get to stay up late. View the PlayBoy channel. Wouldn't want to inhibit their creativity or freedom of expression. (sarcasm intended)


41 posted on 08/04/2006 5:15:31 PM PDT by Integrityrocks
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To: Chanticleer
More like Limp-wristed New World.

I know, like the book...

42 posted on 08/04/2006 5:17:50 PM PDT by GeronL (http://www.mises.org/story/1975 <--no such thing as a fairtax)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
"look into the home life of that boy"

You would be amazed how often this sort of thing happens, and at what early ages. Very few actually make the news. I deal with it regularly. Usually the parents are either druggies who have exposed the kids to pornography, either deliberately or inadvertently, or they're just completely oblivious to the effect that their own behavior, words, "entertainment", etc. has on their children. I have run across situations in which I believed that parents were actually promoting sexualized behavior in their children for profit. Darn hard to prove though.

43 posted on 08/04/2006 6:02:33 PM PDT by sweetliberty (Stupidity should make you sterile!)
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To: exzoomie
"Kind of makes one wonder if one or both of the parents are into pornography."

Sometimes the kids see the parents (or mom and boyfriend, more often than not) engaged in sexual activity. Way too many parents, have very little, if any, sense of decency, self-respect or responsibility for their children any more.

44 posted on 08/04/2006 6:07:07 PM PDT by sweetliberty (Stupidity should make you sterile!)
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To: All

Did any of you stop to think that maybe the kid has been sexualized by a pedophile?

No, it's Clinton's fault.


45 posted on 08/04/2006 6:10:34 PM PDT by stands2reason (ANAGRAM for the day: Socialist twaddle == Tact is disallowed)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Naw, he should be home-schooled! (/sarc)


46 posted on 08/04/2006 6:11:11 PM PDT by stands2reason (ANAGRAM for the day: Socialist twaddle == Tact is disallowed)
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To: Bommer
Getting to be annoying to try to watch something with my son only to see 10 or 20 commercials of "Bob and his 48 hour boner" being run ad-nausium.

LOL! But, Bob isn't the 48-hour boner guy. He's the "take a magic pill and watch your penis grow" guy.

47 posted on 08/04/2006 6:14:32 PM PDT by TontoKowalski
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To: Lucky9teen
"what the girl and her family have said could be "false" in any way or made up?"

I expect that has been looked at. Typically, there is enough information gleaned from this type of investigation to determine whether or not to substantiate the allegations, and if they hadn't been substantiated, it is highly unlikely that we would be reading about it in a public forum. In my experience, it isn't usually that difficult to figure out who's telling the truth between a couple of 8 year olds. Often, the offender will admit to it.

48 posted on 08/04/2006 6:27:10 PM PDT by sweetliberty (Stupidity should make you sterile!)
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To: wagglebee

Whoever gets to it first.


49 posted on 08/04/2006 9:04:35 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: My2Cents
When I was 8 years old, I didn't know what sex was.

And now that you're older?

50 posted on 08/04/2006 10:00:43 PM PDT by TightyRighty
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