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More Inconsistencies In Qana
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Posted on 08/05/2006 6:34:06 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch

More Inconsistencies In Qana As the plot thickens, the waters are getting muddier:

1. A French-language Lebanese magazine, Libanoscopie, is now reporting a new wrinkle based upon a source they have inside Hezbollah:

¡°We have it from a credible source that Hezbollah, alarmed by Siniora¡¯s plan, has concocted an incident that would help thwart the negotiations¡­. Hezbollah gunmen placed a rocket launcher on the roof in Qana and brought disabled children inside, in a bid to provoke a response by the Israeli Air Force. In this way, they were planning to take advantage of the death of innocents and curtail the diplomatic initiative,¡± the site stated.

The site¡¯s editors claimed that Hezbollah staged the event because of Qana¡¯s symbolic significance: ¡°They used Qana because the village had already turned into a symbol for massacring innocent civilians, and so they set up ¡®Qana 2¡ä.¡± The incident has indeed been dubbed ¡°The second Qana massacre¡± by the Arab media.

H/T: IsraelInsider

2. The media is consistently reporting that 60 dead bodies have been pulled from the rubble. But in fact, the Lebanese Red Cross says that only 28 bodies were recovered.

3. Where were all the men? NBC¡¯s Richard Engel says,

¡°We were trying to figure out today where all the men were in this village. If you noticed, all the people in the basement of this three-story building that was hit yesterday by two Israeli airstrikes were women and children, a lot of them young boys. So we went house to house in trying to figure out where all the young men were.

It seems that some of them were fighters, some of them were Hezbollah members that were out ¡ª this according to Hezbollah people who didn¡¯t want to be interviewed but we convinced them to talk to us.¡±

Video of Engel here.

4. The Dead Baby Handler, aka Green Helmet Guy, has made yet another PR appearance, accompanied by his ever-present sidekick, White TShirt Guy, this time on Al Jazeera TV! He¡¯s breathing heavy as if just completeing a fast run, but his clothing is nice and clean, and his girly voice is all squeaky from his emoting. Check out all the cameras in the area, and how the rescue workers place the gurney on the ground so eveyrone can get their photo-op.

click here to see video

Ok, so I guess he goes by the name Abdel Qader, which apparently can be a first or last name, or both, or hyphenated, so for now, I¡¯ll just keep calling him the Dead Baby Handler.

5. A new incredibly contradictory and sloppy article in Haaretz claims that the reason rescue teams couldn¡¯t make it to Qana is because night conditions made the rescue mission difficult, indicating that they were indeed called at night. But that same article claims that the phones were down, and that¡¯s why rescue teams weren¡¯t called until morning. If phones were down, how was the call placed?! Answer: the phones weren¡¯t down. The call was placed in the morning. When they were ready.

Why do so many in the West mindlessly slurp up the propaganda?

Another tactic in this ¡°asymmetric¡± war is to make the Israelis the bad guys for resisting terrorism. Jews have a well-cultivated sense of guilt (take my word for it). And, for obvious reasons, no insult could hurt more than depicting Jews as Nazis. Hence, the nigh-upon global campaign to depict Israelis as the heirs to Hitler. Of course, ad hitlerum argumentation is just the tip of the propaganda spear. ¡°Aggression,¡± ¡°apartheid,¡± ¡°racist¡±: No insult is barred from the anti-Israel script.

Terrorize your enemy and make them feel like villains in the process ¡ª that¡¯s a powerful strategy. This strategy depends on the willing support of what Lenin called ¡°useful idiots.¡± These are the accommodating Westerners ¡ª many of them intellectuals ¡ª all too willing to take the word of totalitarians and even more eager to believe that the champions of democracy are in the wrong.

All in all, Qana has proven to be a PR bonanza for Hezbollah at a time when they¡¯er on the ropes and needed it most. The dramatically-dubbed ¡°Qana massacre¡± was very convenient for Hezbollah politically. As Goldberg noted, ¡°It stymied Condoleezza Rice¡¯s visit to Beirut, forestalled talk of disarming Hezbollah, and rallied international opinion around the terrorist group.¡± Not bad¡­not bad at all. And all for the cost of a couple dozen dead children. We¡¯ll no doubt see sequels to this summer blockbuster, coming soon to a media outlet near you. Stay tuned¡­


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: hezbollah; islamoganda; qana
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thank you tube

1 posted on 08/05/2006 6:34:07 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch
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To: InvisibleChurch

Another source: Is it more credible than the "well-researched" MSM that DEMAMDS we respect them?


2 posted on 08/05/2006 6:37:00 AM PDT by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: InvisibleChurch

I am certain that none of us is surprised.

Don't hold your breath waiting for the pro-Islamofascist media to broadcast it though.

After all, they don't report rumors. /sarc

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3 posted on 08/05/2006 6:40:54 AM PDT by Westbrook (Having more children does not divide your love, it multiplies it!)
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To: Westbrook

A day or two after the IDF blew up the building, Ollie North made a comment on Fox News, wondering why there were only women and children killed. No men.


4 posted on 08/05/2006 6:47:20 AM PDT by skimask (People who care what you do don't matter.......People who matter don't care what you do.)
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To: InvisibleChurch
More of interest from that same site... Intel Community Weighs In On Qana

Here's another...

When A "Myth" Is Not A Myth The Left would have us believe that Hezbollah hiding among civilians is a “myth”... Looks like Hezbollah doesn't agree.

5 posted on 08/05/2006 7:02:53 AM PDT by American Cabalist (Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Those Who Threaten It)
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To: InvisibleChurch
Made for TV - as ususal...

Pallywood depicts the perfected arabic weapon of staging television casualties.

6 posted on 08/05/2006 7:04:47 AM PDT by Nomorjer Kinov (If the opposite of "pro" is "con" , what is the opposite of progress?)
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To: InvisibleChurch
A French-language Lebanese magazine states, "We have it from a credible source ..."

Say no more. It must be true.

7 posted on 08/05/2006 7:20:08 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: InvisibleChurch

Why is no-one commenting upon the total lack of morality? Deliberately setting up the helpless to die for Allah kinda proves the nature of Allah does it not.

I just came from a place called SavageLove and feel the need of a shower. There too, an innocent captive is being used for propaganda, and that is right here in (Our own?) the USA. Allah for World Domination and filth for filth, which is morally superior? Down with all tyranny!


8 posted on 08/05/2006 7:34:00 AM PDT by Medicine Warrior (There are a thousand hacking at the branches of Evil, to one who is striking at the root)
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To: robertpaulsen

I agree. This source is no more or less credible than the MSM sources.


9 posted on 08/05/2006 8:56:20 AM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: Parley Baer; robertpaulsen

A French-language Lebanese magazine states, "We have it from a credible source ..."

Say no more. It must be true.

I agree. This source is no more or less credible than the MSM sources.

Allow me to present a duly authorized MSM source - “a budding journalism student” - who helped create MSM's Haditha hoax:

IMHO Ace of Spades nails it:

The whole MSM has some explaining to do. But they will do no explaining, and ask no questions, and embargo the story, because they cannot admit that they have cut foreign budgets to such a degree [that] they now rely almost entirely on local stringers of questionable objectivity and integrity for the bulk of their foreign reportage.

10 posted on 08/05/2006 9:00:23 PM PDT by Milhous (Twixt truth and madness lies but a sliver of a stream.)
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To: InvisibleChurch

Definition of islamofascists terrorists:

1. Hates anyone outside there religion, period. will kill anyone outside there religion just for kicks. Ultra Hatred for Jewish and Christian peoples. No tolerance of other peoples religions, period. Will and have commited acts of mass murder.

2. No conscience of killing women, children, older people, those that cannot defend themselves against any acts of islamofascists terrorists. Numerous acts of this is in history and need not be repeated here. As a matter of fact,
islamofascists terrorists hide among the normal civilian populace to conceal their identity and try to give themselves safe harbor while committing their acts of terrorism. islamofascists terrorists Will commit their acts of terrorism from your own back yard of your house(such as setting up and firing rockets from civilian poplace homes and aiming them into another country)to conceal their location and try to give themselves safe harbor from retaliatory action.

3. Any concessions granted to them(islamofascists terrorists) is never enough for them! They always start their demands for whatever it is they want with bloody acts of terrorism. They never ask first, they commit their bloody acts of terrorism then make their demands.

4. Hold out an olive branch of peace to them and they cut your head off! islamofascists terrorists are medeival barbaristic butchers, sick animals that are sub-human, they have no respect for life other than their own and not much of that either! As they are willing to commit suicide, infantacide, patracide to achieve their terrorism.
islamofascists terrorists have no respect for life, period.

5. islamofascists terrorists expect God to reward them for their numerous acts of violence that brings misery and suffering to others including their own brothers and sisters.

6. islamofascists terrorists do not want to make a master race, they want to eliminate the Human Race!


11 posted on 08/05/2006 9:02:40 PM PDT by Defender2 (Defending Our Bill of Rights, Our Constitution, Our Country and Our Freedom!!!!)
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To: skimask

RE: Where are all the men -- I saw a picture today (not sure when it was shot) of a funeral in Lebanon -- no crying widows or children to be found among the estimated 25-40 people in the pic... ALL at the gravesite were Men between say 17 and 50.


12 posted on 08/05/2006 9:11:48 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (MY BLOG: http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com)
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To: InvisibleChurch

The call came in the morning to allow the hezzi liar/murderers time to remove all traces of the Syrian missile launcher under the building rubble. Likely also is that the delay allowed them time to truck in the photo op victims ... from local graves perhaps?


13 posted on 08/05/2006 9:18:03 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: InvisibleChurch

something else that's missing from the pictures: blood on the "victims".

probably because my backround is combat med. i always look at injuries in these pics. anyone with trauma medicine back round looks to see if the injury and mechanism of injury, match. in this case....at least from pictures i have been able to find. they do not.

compare these pictures with the pictures of injuries from any other bombed building. blood everywhere.

it is true that crush and blast trauma do not always make visible injuries. however, collateral injuries from falling bricks, etc. are very visible. especially those to the head which tend to bleed copiously. even the guy interviewed, who had supposedly been blown out of the building, showed none of the symptoms of blast injury.

pull up the '96 quana pics and those of the embassy bombings, ok city, or any others you can think of. these qana pics do not match.


14 posted on 08/06/2006 9:24:30 AM PDT by rider237
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To: InvisibleChurch
I'm wondering about this pic here. The pants look dirty and bloodstained, which would make sense. But the kid's hair, T-shirt, and skin look pretty darn clean for somebody who was pulled out from under building rubble, especially when you compare it to other victim pics. I'm supposed to believe that this kid wouldn't have concrete dust in her hair and skin that has a shine like she's just out of the bathtub? If I'm wrong here, talk to me.


Photo caption reads: A Lebanese rescuer carries the body of a young girl recovered from under the rubble of a demolished building that was struck by Israeli warplane missiles at the village of Qana, near the southern city of Tyre, Lebanon, Sunday, July 30, 2006. The Associated Press and two other news agencies on Tuesday, Aug. 1, 2006,rejected challenges to the veracity of photographs of bodies taken in the aftermath of an Israeli airstrike in Lebanon, strongly denying that the images were staged. (AP Photo/Mohammed Zaatari)

Yahoo!/AP link: http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/060801/481/a2b0c08be4784a4c90cbfe4decfa8266

15 posted on 08/06/2006 2:49:37 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity ("Sharpei diem - Seize the wrinkled dog.")
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

wander over to lgf and powerline. they have some great photo analysis and links to other sites that have done time lines on the photos. multiple pics of same body, being carried by same man, over long period of time (for pics?).

also, do a google image search on qana. compare the '96 death pics to the 2006 pics. blood in the first. no blood in the second.


16 posted on 08/07/2006 10:24:58 AM PDT by rider237
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Is the girl supposed to be dead? She seems to have a nice healthy skin tone to me. You'd have to look at the camera raw file to know for certain, but I'm suspicious.


17 posted on 08/07/2006 10:38:07 AM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: InvisibleChurch

bump


18 posted on 08/07/2006 10:41:54 AM PDT by VOA
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

I think the red on her pants are part of the design in her pants


19 posted on 08/07/2006 12:53:28 PM PDT by sasha123 (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem)
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To: savedbygrace

She does have a health glow, (after spending a week in hospice with a family member), the nurses seem to constantly remind and teach visitors about skin color changes (which I found the discussion be upsetting after a period of days).

So, you are right - she does not have any sign of motteling (sp?) as I was taught.


20 posted on 08/07/2006 12:57:38 PM PDT by sasha123 (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem)
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To: savedbygrace

Yep, the photo caption says she's dead. Aside from the other photos of her that I've compared, she looks way too clean. The caption also says that they pulled her out from under rubble of a collapsed building. Funny, I don't see a speck of concrete dust in her hair or dirt on her skin.

Web link here: http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/060801/481/a2b0c08be4784a4c90cbfe4decfa8266


21 posted on 08/07/2006 2:23:12 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity ("Sharpei diem - Seize the wrinkled dog.")
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To: rider237
probably because my backround is combat med. i always look at injuries in these pics.

rider237
Failing to capitalize since Jun 27, 2006

Zot this troll, enter name:

I think you are a school kid in a library.

Shouldn't you be surfing porn or something?

Learn about that shift key and get back to me on that.

22 posted on 08/09/2006 6:03:08 PM PDT by humblegunner (If you're gonna die, die with your boots on.)
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To: humblegunner

don't you have anything better to do than chase me around complaining about my writing style?



23 posted on 08/09/2006 6:08:10 PM PDT by rider237
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To: rider237
don't you have anything better to do than chase me around complaining about my writing style?

Can't you manage to write like an adult?

I'll knock off the crap if you will.

24 posted on 08/09/2006 6:12:12 PM PDT by humblegunner (If you're gonna die, die with your boots on.)
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