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Ex-agent says U.S. ignored WMD sites (politics, fear got in way)
WorldNetDaily ^ | 8/5/06 | WorldNetDaily

Posted on 08/05/2006 9:18:13 AM PDT by wagglebee

 


Dave Gaubatz
A former U.S. federal agent and counter-terrorism specialist deployed to Iraq before the war says he waged a three-year, unsuccessful battle to get officials to search four sites where he believes the former Saddam regime buried weapons of mass destruction.

Dave Gaubatz, an Arabic linguist who now serves as chief investigator with the Dallas County Medical Examiner, told his story to Ryan Mauro of WorldThreats.com.

Gaubatz said the suspected sites have never been searched by the Iraq Survey Group, the fact-finding mission dispatched by the U.S.-led multinational force. Two sites are within the city limits of Nasariyah, another about 20 miles south and the fourth in Umm Qasr, near Basra.

Emphasizing these are sites established by the Saddam regime after the first Gulf War, Gaubatz said he believes they contain chemical and/or biological weapons.

The former federal agent said the WMD were buried under riverbeds, and one site has a sewage pipe system. Before the war, he said, he had been briefed to search oil, gas, water and sewage pipes.

"Saddam was very good about hiding and moving WMD," Gaubatz told Mauro. "People need to research how easy it is to do using a gas-oil pipeline."

Providing more details, Gaubatz said the first site is within a couple of miles of several thousand U.S. military personnel at Ali Air Base, previously called Talil Air Base. The WMD are inside concrete bunkers buried under the riverbed of the Euphrates, he said.

The second site is in the sewage pipe system near the Saddam Hospital, where Pvt. Jessica Lynch was held hostage. There are pipes within the pipes, he noted.

The third site has WMD buried in canals, Gaubatz said, pointing out missile imprints were seen nearby.

The fourth site is at Umm Qasr, hidden in the channel. An Iraqi police captain assigned to both Nasariyah and Basra had information on this site, he said, and other Iraqis identified it as well.

Arguing for the validity of the sites, Gaubatz emphasized that many Iraqis risked their lives to identify them to his team.

Illustrating the danger, he told of receiving an e-mail June 23 from a special agent for the Air Force Office of Special Investigations in Nasariyah informing him that many of the Iraqi sources who came forward to help him and other OSI agents had been assassinated by insurgents since 2003.

"All they ever asked is that we, the U.S. government, inspect the sites they were risking their lives to show us," Gaubatz said. "They had heard President Bush say Saddam Hussein had WMD, and they wanted to help America. Now they are dead and the sites remain unsearched."

The Iraqis he interviewed provided many details about the suspected sites, he said. Many of the areas around the sites had been closed for several months while it was excavated to bury the weapons, causing severe hardship to the Iraqis nearby.

High-ranking Iraqi personnel and military trucks come into the area, according to the informants.

"Low-ranking soldiers often talked to the locals about the WMD being buried," Gaubatz explained. "Most people don't realize that alcohol and narcotics were often used excessively by Iraqi civilians, Fedayeen and military personnel. People talk when they are under the influence of drugs and alcohol."

Asked why the Iraq Survey Group and the Bush administration didn't rush to have the sites checked, Gaubatz replied: "Our president only gets filtered information provided to him. Charles Duelfer, the former director of the ISG, provided the information he wanted President Bush to obtain. He never informed President Bush that the ISG was negligent by only searching less than 10 percent of all sites identified."

Duelfer, Gaubatz noted, said at the beginning of the war and in an interview recently that "it was dangerous to go to suspected sites, and is still dangerous; the area is a war zone."

"This is what we were up against," Gaubatz commented. "I have never known of any war that was not dangerous. He should have taken this into consideration before accepting the director position."

Gaubatz touched on the announcement in June by Sen. Rick Santorum, R-Pa., and Rep. Pete Hoekstra, R-Mich., of some 500 chemical weapons discovered in Iraq since 2003, calling it "politics for personal gain and personal reaons."

Hoekstra and Rep. Curt Weldon wanted to locate WMD for their own political ambitions, Gaubatz charged.

"The release of the 'breaking news' of 500 WMD shells being found was purely Hoekstra in damage-control mode and old news to anyone who has worked intelligence," he maintained.

Gaubatz claimed the administration does not want to find out the truth because it could jeopardize the Republican Party.

"The sites I identified in 2003 were never searched; there is now a possibility the sites were looted and WMD is in the hands of terrorists," he said.

"Our administration, Weldon and Hoekstra can give 100 speeches about how much we are doing to fight the war on terrorism and how much they support our troops, but until they search the suspected WMD sites only two miles from our troops, they are feeding the American people B.S," he continued.

Gaubatz said he supports Bush, but the president's "advisers prevent the truth and the real intelligence from ever reaching him."



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Gaubatz claimed the administration does not want to find out the truth because it could jeopardize the Republican Party.

I fail to see how.

1 posted on 08/05/2006 9:18:16 AM PDT by wagglebee
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To: ikez78

Ping


2 posted on 08/05/2006 9:24:33 AM PDT by Peach (Prayers for Israel and all who love her.)
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To: wagglebee

As you said, that statement makes zero sense at all. If the administration knows about WMD, it would go a long way to ensuring that Democrats are kept out of power for decades.


3 posted on 08/05/2006 9:25:22 AM PDT by Peach (Prayers for Israel and all who love her.)
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To: wagglebee

Harris poll comes out saying that over 50% of Americans NOW believe Iraq had WMD when we attacked. MSM response? Find someone to agree but have them say "WE KNEW" they were there and did nothing because we are incompetent.

See, it's ALL Bush's fault.


4 posted on 08/05/2006 9:27:32 AM PDT by Eagles Talon IV
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To: wagglebee

By failing to find the WMD's, they allowed them to return to the hands of those wishing harm on the US forces. By not ferretting out these weapons, the reason we went into Iraq, was to SAVE us from these weapons, the Republicans lose if the weapons surface in the hands of "insurgents". The argument switches from "Bush lied" to Bush was incompetent from start to finish. Which if this story holds water, would be probably true.


5 posted on 08/05/2006 9:32:43 AM PDT by jeremiah (How much did we get for that rope?)
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To: jeremiah

See my signature


6 posted on 08/05/2006 9:36:05 AM PDT by observer5 (It's not a War on Terror - it's a WAR ON STUPIDITY)
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To: wagglebee

"All they ever asked is that we, the U.S. government, inspect the sites they were risking their lives to show us," Gaubatz said. "They had heard President Bush say Saddam Hussein had WMD, and they wanted to help America. Now they are dead and the sites remain unsearched."

Truely sad...if not criminal


7 posted on 08/05/2006 9:37:19 AM PDT by observer5 (It's not a War on Terror - it's a WAR ON STUPIDITY)
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To: wagglebee
Baloney
8 posted on 08/05/2006 9:37:55 AM PDT by badpacifist ( I drive super slow in the ultra fast lane .....................yo deo oh ...oh de oh)
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To: Peach

"As you said, that statement makes zero sense at all. If the administration knows about WMD, it would go a long way to ensuring that Democrats are kept out of power for decades."

Sorry Peach, gotta disagree here. Hiding the WMD was the only way that the RATS wouldn't create a global scare and blame it on Bush.

Let's say there were WMD and Bush in 2004 came out with "we found warehouses filled with the stuff." The RATS then come out and say, "how do we know we got them all? Maybe the terrorists got some and we cannot account for it." That would cause a scare and the RATS talking point would be that if we kept Saddam in check rther than attacked, terrorists wouldn't now have WMD.

I believe that the US and Russia had the stuff crated and sent back to Russia for destruction, using Syria as a storage facility. This way, the Israelis could monitor it. Bush knew he was going to win Ohio so taking the hit about "No WMD" wouldn't matter. Especially now since it wa recently reported that there were WMD, this takes the 2006-2008 "Bush Lied" talking point away.


9 posted on 08/05/2006 9:41:20 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Democrats - The reason we need term limits)
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To: wagglebee

BUMP


10 posted on 08/05/2006 9:41:31 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: wagglebee

Just sent email to certain member of the armed services committee asking that they push an investigation of these potential WMD sites.


11 posted on 08/05/2006 9:45:49 AM PDT by RAY
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To: Peach

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12 posted on 08/05/2006 9:53:43 AM PDT by griswold3 (Ken Blackwell, Ohio Governor in 2006- No!! You cannot have my governor in 2008.)
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To: All

Thanks for the PING. I actually think Bush's staff sees that over 50% believe that Saddam had WMD and bringing it up again will only bring more dishonestlly from the press/left which may drive it back down. Their ability to create and repeat soundbytes has proven pretty effective in the past and the calculation may be just to avoid it.
That certainly doesn't mean we shoudl though....


13 posted on 08/05/2006 9:57:33 AM PDT by ikez78 (www.regimeofterror.com)
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To: wagglebee

@


14 posted on 08/05/2006 10:11:31 AM PDT by dingoMcgill
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Especially now since it wa recently reported that there were WMD, this takes the 2006-2008 "Bush Lied" talking point away.

You would think but most Democrats don't keep up. I argue this on the AARP forums. There is a thread over there on "Americans: Dumbest People on the Planet" because of that poll. I've done everything but provided serial numbers on the shells but you can't tell them anything. When you finally pin them down they come up with four or five more points.


15 posted on 08/05/2006 11:40:50 AM PDT by Belasarius (Yet man is born unto trouble, as the sparks fly upward. Job 5:2-7)
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To: Peach
an Arabic linguist who now serves as chief investigator with the Dallas County Medical Examiner

Dallas County, Texas? This guy doesn't know Mary Mapes, does he?

16 posted on 08/05/2006 11:47:30 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: wagglebee

I'm not buying it.


17 posted on 08/05/2006 11:53:41 AM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: wagglebee

Filing this guy's story under "fiction."


18 posted on 08/05/2006 11:57:33 AM PDT by EverOnward
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To: All

Anyone know if there's confirmation from real sources, or just WND?


19 posted on 08/05/2006 12:02:10 PM PDT by Gondring (If "Conservatives" now want to "conserve" our Constitution away, then I must be a Preservative!)
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To: Peach
Frontpage did an interview of him which was interesting:

CACHED ARTICLE : The Iraqi WMDs That Slipped Through Our Fingers

20 posted on 08/05/2006 12:07:25 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: Gondring
It is true that some of ISG's sources were assassinated.

It is also true that most of ISG's searching was done in documents and not on the ground.

It is true that the ISG was understaffed and wasn't up to the task of translating the huge volume of Iraqi WMD documents.

It is also true that only a percentage of suspected sites have been thoroughly searched since a number of locations were deliberately submerged and will have to be pumped out. Enviromental advocates will probably scream if it isn't done with a gazillion precautions to prevent contamination.

It is true that we spotted trucks leaving known WMD facilities before the war, destined for Syria.

It is also probably true that the Russians helped Saddam remove some WMD. [Look up "Primakov"]

And it's true the media thinks every drum of precursor chemicals is just bug spray.

And it's true that the UN was going to step in and use some of their old resolutions against us if we found any and were trying to keep Iraq under sanctions, new government or not, to prevent Iraq's economic recovery.

What may not be true are his World-Net-Daily-alleged opinions on reasons why the WMD issue was played as it was.

21 posted on 08/05/2006 12:23:55 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: wagglebee

Dems will say Bush was careless and let WMD's slip away into the hands of terrorists.


22 posted on 08/05/2006 1:15:01 PM PDT by hershey
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To: hershey

And the press will get selective amnesia about the thousands of dem comments about Saddam never having WMD.


23 posted on 08/05/2006 1:20:31 PM PDT by ikez78 (www.regimeofterror.com)
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To: hershey
"Dems"

We know that Dems will say anything including contradicting something they said one minute before. However it will exceptionally difficult for libs to blame Bush when they've been screaming "NO WMDS!!!" for the last three years. Finding Hussein's recently manufactured wmds would be nothing but a huge coup for Bush. American's are smart enough to realize who the real liars are...as usual Dems and libs.

24 posted on 08/05/2006 1:44:19 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: wagglebee
The reason he is alluding to must be that the US sold the WMD's to the Iraqui regime even when we knew we should not, or the chemicals can be traced to American companies. Also the WMD's may be traced to an "Ally" of the US.

Who knows???

This issue has been screwed up so bad that there has to be something else going on behind the scenes..
25 posted on 08/05/2006 1:51:54 PM PDT by grapeape (Hope is not a method - Gen Hugh Shelton)
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