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Lethal Logic: Gabler Claims Gibson's Rant Proves 'Passion' Anti-Semitic
Fox News Watch/NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 08/05/2006 7:13:19 PM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest

by Mark Finkelstein

August 5, 2006 - 21:57

Neal Gabler might not look like an athlete, but don't be surprised to see him lining up for the long jump at the 2008 Beijing Olympics. For on this evening's Fox News Watch, Neal took a leap of logic of Beamonesque proportions.

According to Gabler, the fact that a drunken Gibson made anti-Semitic remarks retroactively proves that his 'Passion of the Christ' was anti-Semitic too.

Here's how the liberal media critic put it:

"The interest here is 'The Passion.' It made something like $400 million. It was accused of being anti-Semitic. The mainstream press didn't really want to touch it. Because they were afraid of being clobbered from the right. Now Mel Gibson has outed himself. And it gives the mainstream press an opportunity - not just to focus on the fact that Mel Gibson was drunk and said anti-Semitic remarks - but that The Passion itself was anti-Semitic. That Mel Gibson has a pattern of anti-Semitism. And that's what makes it a story."

Or at least, a story line that Gabler devoutly hopes the MSM will pursue.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: antisemitism; fnc; foxnewswatch; melgibson; moviereview; nealgabler; passionofthechrist; thepassion

1 posted on 08/05/2006 7:13:23 PM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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Fox News Watch/NewsBusters Passion-of-the-Christ ping to Today show list.


2 posted on 08/05/2006 7:13:59 PM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

This is absurd, all it proves is that Gibson, the man who made the Passion film, is anti-Semitic. Anything else is simply stretching the logic.


3 posted on 08/05/2006 7:15:38 PM PDT by babble-on
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I have to agree.

To liberals, The Passion is like Julius and Ethel Rosenberg - it must be fought for all eternity and any excuse will do.


4 posted on 08/05/2006 7:16:31 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Gabler is an idiot..


5 posted on 08/05/2006 7:16:40 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: sheik yerbouty

Gabler is a perfect idiot.


6 posted on 08/05/2006 7:17:57 PM PDT by encm(ss) (USN Ret.)
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To: babble-on
People who said that we shouldn't care what Mel thinks suddenly say that we should, now that his words are condemnable.

I've never kept love for any celebrity. While some find this SHOCKING, it is good to be immune. One must rise above.

7 posted on 08/05/2006 7:22:49 PM PDT by SteveMcKing (Wikipedia ~ the Ministry of Truth)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Applying Gabler's logic to the Stained One:
"Now Bill Clinton has outed himself. And it gives the mainstream press an opportunity - not just to focus on the fact that Bill Clinton was having sex in the Oval Office and lying about it on national television - but that his presidency itself was a lie. That Bill Clinton has a pattern of lying and abusing women. And that's what make it a story."
8 posted on 08/05/2006 7:23:29 PM PDT by eggman (Democrat party - The black hole of liberalism from which no rational thought can escape.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Gabler is in dire need of a brain transplant.


9 posted on 08/05/2006 7:26:09 PM PDT by jazusamo (DIANA IREY for Congress, PA 12th District: Retire murtha.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Well, as time has gone on it becomes more and more apparent what all of the horror over Mel's remarks was really about. I didn't see this when Hillary made her comment about Jewish people, nor when Brando made his.
susie


10 posted on 08/05/2006 7:26:44 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Why is that commie dwarf on the Fox payroll?


11 posted on 08/05/2006 7:29:07 PM PDT by RedRover (And what is a "media writer" anyway?)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
The amazing thing about antisemitism is nonobservant Jews seem the most worried while the observant, or Orthodox, Jews seem to take it in stride. At least in the US.

Huge sums are raised yearly from Jews to fight antisemitism. IMHO the problem is antisemitism is the only real "Jewishness" that many nonobservant Jews have. Approximately half of all nonobservant Jewish men marry gentiles. The result is "Jewishness" needs some boundary to defend--antisemitism is perfect for this.

12 posted on 08/05/2006 7:29:24 PM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: encm(ss); sheik yerbouty

Neil Gabler is the patron saint of all idiots.

Neil Gabler is an idiots idiot.

Neil Gabler defines idiocy.

Idiot thy name is Neil Gabler


I could go on and on actually. I'm always impressed that Cal Thomas (or Rich Lowry) can sit that close to Gabler and not pummel that raging idiot.


13 posted on 08/05/2006 7:29:50 PM PDT by kb2614 (Hell hath no fury than a bureaucrat scorned)
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To: babble-on
This is absurd, all it proves is that Gibson, the man who made the Passion film, is anti-Semitic.

Doesn't even prove that. Look at how the American secular Jews attacked his movie "the Passion," consider (subsequently) what he might have encountered earlier that evening (and forgotten) out&about in a local frequented by (secular, liberal, and highly anti-Gibson) Jews... you've got no proof here. Evidence, certainly, but proof? No.

He's made a decent apology. (Did we ever get the equivalent from Clinton? I do not think so.) But this is politics and not polite society; the Left will never let go of this.

14 posted on 08/05/2006 7:30:36 PM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† | Iran Azadi | Appeasement is Capitulation is Suicide)
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To: eggman

Great analogy, eggman. Neil Gabler, the "self-appointed media critic"... ( Who ever heard of him before he was on this show... and that tired dribble-puss Jane Hall (someone give this hag a bib) are sooo over... I'd like to tell Neil where he can stick that finger he's always holding up to the camera.


15 posted on 08/05/2006 7:32:30 PM PDT by vinwire (vinwire)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Gabler has a screw loose.

Nam Vet

P.S. See tagline

16 posted on 08/05/2006 7:32:34 PM PDT by Nam Vet (Bozone (n.): The substance surrounding liberals that stops bright ideas from penetrating.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Neal Gabler is a leftwingnut. He's just trying to divert our attention from the Democrat's embrace of virulent anti-semitism.


17 posted on 08/05/2006 7:37:32 PM PDT by muawiyah (-/sarcasm)
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To: sionnsar

I'm rather curious about the Holocaust show that Gibson was working on. I'm having a lot of trouble believing they were funding an anti Semitic Holocaust flick.


18 posted on 08/05/2006 7:42:39 PM PDT by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Gabler shouldn't be labeled as a 'media writer' but as a 'liberal agitator' or 'liberal media activist'. He is a five year old child who has to have the last word and will just talk louder than anybody else who disagrees with him or makes better sense.

I would be thrilled to get a face to face with that metrosexual twit and b#tch slap him intellectually in a way that nobody on TV feels appropriate to do.

19 posted on 08/05/2006 8:25:39 PM PDT by bpjam (Remember our fallen Marines in Beirut. Hezbollah deserves no peace.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

And that means what, exactly, Mr. Gabler? Are you going to go house to house and collect every dvd that exists?

That toothpaste isn't going back into the tube.

Pinz


20 posted on 08/05/2006 8:29:28 PM PDT by pinz-n-needlez (Jack Bauer wears Tony Snow pajamas)
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To: encm(ss)
Gabler is a perfect idiot.

Nobody's perfect.

I prefer to think of Neal Gabler as a cartoon character, who plays the same role as a bad guy in professional wrestling, or Yosemite Sam.

Except that Yosemite Sam is lovable.

21 posted on 08/05/2006 8:33:44 PM PDT by Bernard (God helps those who helps themselves - The US Government takes in the rest.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
I didn't particularly like Passion. Besices featuring too much graphic violence, it failed to mention the Resurrection. However, if this film is Judeophobic, then so is the Holy Bible--including the Old Testiment, which foretells the events portrayed in the film.

By the way, my favorite Passion film is Ben Hur, starring Ramon Navarro (1925).

22 posted on 08/05/2006 8:52:49 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Typical lefty - always fighting last year's battle - another compelling reason for not letting them get control of the government......


23 posted on 08/05/2006 8:59:56 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

24 posted on 08/05/2006 9:36:16 PM PDT by Cobra64 (All we get are lame ideas from Republicans and lame criticism from dems about those lame ideas.)
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To: glorgau
To liberals, The Passion is like Julius and Ethel Rosenberg - it must be fought for all eternity and any excuse will do.

And for FReepers, to be discussed for all eternity and any excuse will do.

25 posted on 08/05/2006 9:37:57 PM PDT by Cobra64 (All we get are lame ideas from Republicans and lame criticism from dems about those lame ideas.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Meanwhile, Gabler's kids were overheard saying:

We can pick our noses, too bad we couldn't pick our dad.


26 posted on 08/05/2006 10:11:03 PM PDT by demkicker (democrats and terrorists are intimate bedfellows)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I notice that the MSM makes much about Mel's untimely comments.


They call him anti-semitic, but they don't talk about what he actually said, and the circumstances it was said in.

The cop who pulled him over was Jewish.

I imagine had the cop been black, Mr. Gibson might have made some anti-negro remarks. Alcohol has a way of making you brave, uninhibited, and stupid, all at once.

Although we humans usually have our prejudices well hidden, different things can make them come out.

What Mel said was something that he would likely never say if not drunk, and I imagine he was attacking the cop personally because the cop was attacking him personally by pulling him over and arresting him for DUI.

Now, I have not see this particular reporter write a column declaring the nutjob in Iran an anti-semitic, even though that person said that Israelites must be removed from the face of the earth.

And I haven't seen that reporter write any columns about how well the IDF is doing against the Hezb'allah, or how great Coalition forces are doing against the terrorists.

And he should. Going by the name I would say the reporter is Jewish.


27 posted on 08/06/2006 12:48:51 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Target the leaders. Once the head is gone, the body will die.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
What a shame that Gabler basically makes the statement that The Gospel (nee' The Passion) is anti-Semitic.

Gibson's only problem is a poor choice of friends, who would allow him to drive drunk, and perhaps the early stages of simple, banal and garden variety alcoholism, which far from the plain myth of bringing out "the truth about what a person believes," almost always, when confronted, aims outward for excuses for personal irresponsibility.

The shame of it is that fact that Gabler, liberal Banshee that he is, has to his credit a really interesting and scholarly book about the role of entertainment and the cult of celebrity that I am now reading for the second time. I would still highly recommend Life: The Movie, How Entertainment Conquered Reality as a wonderful American history of the Cult of the Celebrity and how Entertainment has become "the coin of the realm."

If only he could keep his ill-informed ideas about the behavior of alcoholics and potential alcoholics as much to himself as he managed to lighten his rare cheap shots at Conservatives in that great book!

28 posted on 08/06/2006 1:02:44 AM PDT by Prospero (Ad Astra!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Riddle me this, Batman. How are Mel's drunken comments any worse than Gabler's sober accusations? At least Mel has an excuse. What bothers me most is that Gabler engaged in the politics of personal destruction and no one on the panel challenge him on it.
29 posted on 08/06/2006 4:40:33 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Crom!)
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