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August 6th, 1945 ; Atomic bomb is dropped on Hiroshima
BBC News History ^ | 8/6/06 | BBC News

Posted on 08/06/2006 6:59:07 AM PDT by AirBorn

1945: US drops atomic bomb on Hiroshima

The first atomic bomb has been dropped by a United States aircraft on the Japanese city of Hiroshima. President Harry S Truman, announcing the news from the cruiser, Augusta, in the mid-Atlantic, said the device contained the equivalent of 20,000 tons of TNT and was more than 2,000 times more powerful than the largest bomb used to date.

An accurate assessment of the damage caused has so far been impossible due to a huge cloud of impenetrable dust covering the target. Hiroshima is one of the chief supply depots for the Japanese army.

The bomb was dropped from an American B-29 Superfortress, known as Enola Gay, at 0815 local time. The plane's crew say they saw a column of smoke rising and intense fires springing up.

We found the Japanese in our locality were not eager to befriend us - after all, they had not long ago had the most fearful weapon of all time dropped on their doorstep

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The President said the atomic bomb heralded the "harnessing of the basic power of the universe". It also marked a victory over the Germans in the race to be first to develop a weapon using atomic energy.

President Truman went on to warn the Japanese the Allies would completely destroy their capacity to make war.

The Potsdam declaration issued 10 days ago, which called for the unconditional surrender of Japan, was a last chance for the country to avoid utter destruction, the President said.

"If they do not now accept our terms they may expect a rain of ruin from the air the like of which has never been seen on Earth. Behind this air attack will follow by sea and land forces in such number and power as they have not yet seen, but with fighting skill of which they are already aware."

The British Prime Minister Clement Attlee, who has replaced Winston Churchill at Number 10, read out a statement prepared by his predecessor to MPs in the Commons.

It said the atomic project had such great potential the government felt it was right to pursue the research and to pool information with atomic scientists in the US.

As Britain was considered within easy reach of Germany and its bombers, the decision was made to set up the bomb-making plants in the US.

The statement continued: "By God's mercy, Britain and American science outpaced all German efforts. These were on a considerable scale, but far behind. The possession of these powers by the Germans at any time might have altered the result of the war."

Mr Churchill's statement said considerable efforts had been made to disrupt German progress - including attacks on plants making constituent parts of the bomb.

He ended: "We must indeed pray that these awful agencies will be made to conduce peace among the nations and that instead of wreaking measureless havoc upon the entire globe they become a perennial fountain of world prosperity."


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While this is but more of a Technical and Brief History excerpt of War Two ;

Far reaching Political and Socio ramifications will continue debates on the Great power of new Atomic weapons--the debate on a world with total destructive power- for ages to come.

On this day I think every American should reflect back again to give a silent prayer for : ---all those who bravely served in our Military,and Present, ---for the then leadership that was wise enough to decide to use this new weapon, ---and for ther fact that it was a Democratic-Based Nation such as AMERICA FIRST that was able to develope and have use of this devestating destructive power in order to halt the aggression of such Nations as Japan- and to also set the stage for America's FUTURE protection against the very next Big Threat against the Whole World Again some short few years later; the Spread of COMMUNISM and Communist Russia's plans for world domination too.

America has almost always been at the forefront of such technological advances and Thanks be to God that it was us ; a Country Founded on Religion and Religious Freedom, Individual Rights and the beliefs in the Principles of ; Life, Liberty and pursuit of Personal Happiness set in a Democratic Belief System.

And again:

Thank God for Our Brave U.S. Military and all who have served this Country Bravely through-out our History- and our Past Presidents such as Ronald Reagan and Present President George Bush for seeing the wisdom that it is only the Threat of Force AND Force that keeps a Free Nation Free.

And Thank God that at this present dangerous time in the Worlds' History- that the likes of John "U.N." Kerry, Hillary clinton, John Muthra, Howard Dean and the rest are no-where NEAR any such power that lies in the White House and the Presidency.

Darth Airborne

1 posted on 08/06/2006 6:59:09 AM PDT by AirBorn
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To: AirBorn

If only Harry Truman was in charge today...


2 posted on 08/06/2006 7:01:54 AM PDT by bushfamfan
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To: AirBorn
President Harry S Truman, announcing the news from the cruiser, Augusta, in the mid-Atlantic...

He made the announcement from a SHIP? Did the press have a hayday (heyday?) with it, back then? ;-P

3 posted on 08/06/2006 7:06:58 AM PDT by spookycc (Never Forget. Never Again!)
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To: AirBorn
From The Last Great Victory: The End of World War Ii, July-August 1945, by Stanley Weintraub.

It was the afternoon of August 5, 1945. To a group of six hundred army officers assigned to the Hiroshima garrison, Professor Yoshitaka Mimura of Hiroshima Bunri University, a theoretical physicist, was explaining the scientific possibilities of new weapons which might reverse the tide of war. Japan had little Navy or Air Force left. Within months a massive invasion of the home islands seemed likely. “Could you tell us, sir”, a young lieutenant colonel asked, “what an atomic bomb is? Is there any possibility that the bomb will be deployed by the end of this war?”

Mimura chalked a rough sketch on the blackboard to illustrate the [nuclear] reactions required. Scientists at Tokyo University, he explained, have “theoretically penetrated” the secrets of nuclear fission. If they could apply their theories practically, an atomic bomb “could be smaller than a piece of caramel candy, but, if exploded five hundred meters above a populated city, it could destroy 200,000 lives.”

“When can we have that bomb?” “Well, it is difficult to say”, Mimura answered, knowing nothing of any Japanese enterprise to apply fission theory to bomb-making. “But I can tell you this much: not before the end of this war.”


4 posted on 08/06/2006 7:07:40 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: 'Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS: Fake But Accurate, Experts Say.')
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To: AirBorn

And using the bomb saved hundreds of thousands of American and Japanese lives by overwhelming the Japanese and destroying their will to fight along with killing about 100,000 Japanese (Nagasaki bomb did about the same).


5 posted on 08/06/2006 7:07:55 AM PDT by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules.)
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To: AirBorn
Drop an atomic bomb on Hiroshima!!?/ We can't! We will succeed only in angering the Japs and creating more irremediably militant Japanese!!
6 posted on 08/06/2006 7:09:03 AM PDT by TalBlack
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To: bushfamfan

Roll another one.


7 posted on 08/06/2006 7:15:50 AM PDT by battlegearboat
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To: AirBorn
No Pearl Harbor = No Hiroshima

There is a lesson here.

8 posted on 08/06/2006 7:21:36 AM PDT by keithtoo (Israeli defense strategy "Cogito Ergo Boom!")
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To: All
My dad was in the Navy and was preparing for the invasion. They were told that a whole bunch of them would not make it back alive. And they were okay with that. They knew they were doing their duty. But they were very glad the bombs fell to end the war. It's sobering to realize I might not be here had "Fat Man" and "Little Boy" not fallen.
9 posted on 08/06/2006 7:30:31 AM PDT by bubbacluck
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To: liege
It's sobering to realize I might not be here had "Fat Man" and "Little Boy" not fallen.

Same here, liege. My father would have been part of an invasion force instead of an occupation force. I visited Hiroshima last year. I was rather surprised that the museum there gave a relatively objective account of the dropping of the bomb, and did not neglect to point out that it was the result of Japanese initiation of the war. I think that represents a change from what used to be there. Also, the actual site over which the bomb was dropped is not part of the museum or surrounding "peace park," but rather is on an obscure, hard-to-find side street, in front of a restaurant, with only a small marker to signify it. No, the restaurant did not have an A-Bomb theme or otherwise try to cash in on its unique location.

10 posted on 08/06/2006 7:39:44 AM PDT by speedy
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To: liege

My dad survived a crash landing in the CBI theater but was ready to be called back. The jumping off point was Rough and Ready Island, Stockton, California.


12 posted on 08/06/2006 7:41:22 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: AirBorn

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1521072/posts
Unit 731 - Research and Bump List. Gets Disturbing, Read at Your Own Risk


13 posted on 08/06/2006 7:42:35 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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Thank you all for your service
14 posted on 08/06/2006 7:47:54 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: liege

same here


15 posted on 08/06/2006 7:48:25 AM PDT by Ragnar54
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To: liege
My father was an Army Ranger and already back from Europe by late July of '45 and in training for the invasion of Japan. He told me that they were told the operation was to be over 5 times the size of D-Day with estimated first day causulties above 100,000 men! When the news of the Bomb came his whole company broke training and got stinkin' drunk!
17 posted on 08/06/2006 7:50:07 AM PDT by cartoonistx
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To: keithtoo

18 posted on 08/06/2006 7:51:07 AM PDT by Prime Choice (Kindness to the cruel is cruelty to the kind.)
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To: AirBorn
Atomic bomb is dropped on Hiroshima
And the Japanese still didn't surrender.
19 posted on 08/06/2006 7:51:34 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: AirBorn

Time to start a tradition of setting off fireworks on Aug. 6.


20 posted on 08/06/2006 7:51:44 AM PDT by Ragnar54
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To: AirBorn
For another view, Colonel Tibbets book is an excellent first hand account:

"Return of the Enola Gay"

Paul W. Tibbets

Published and distributed by Mid Coast Marketing,

1620 E. Broad St Columbus, Ohio, 43203.

www.theenolagay.com

Best regards,

21 posted on 08/06/2006 7:59:57 AM PDT by Copernicus (A Constitutional Republic revolves around Sovereign Citizens, not citizens around government.)
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To: oh8eleven
And the Japanese still didn't surrender.

A point that is often brushed aside by the "Japan was ready to surrender without the Atom Bomb being used" crowd.

It took a second hit before they were willing to surrender.

It was not the destruction that caused it. The firebombing of Tokyo caused far more destruction then then the two bombs. It was that we caused so much destruction with so little effort.

The firebombing was carried out by thousands of planes and required hundreds of thousands of people working together to pull off.

But the bomb that was dropped on Hiroshima required no such effort. One plane,The Enola Gay, one crew of twelve, one bomb, Little Boy.

Being able to do so much with so little brought home to Japan that when you ran the numbers there was no way to win, no way to wear down your enemy with losses of men and equipment. No way to win.

22 posted on 08/06/2006 8:07:15 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (A propensity to hope and joy is real riches; one to fear and sorrow, real poverty)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
Being able to do so much with so little brought home to Japan that when you ran the numbers there was no way to win
Well, maybe by some, but the military still attempted a coup that would have forced an American invasion and up to a million deaths on both side. Fortunately, the coup failed.
23 posted on 08/06/2006 8:19:42 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

And the Japanese still didn't surrender.

A point that is often brushed aside by the "Japan was ready to surrender without the Atom Bomb being used" crowd.<<

Lost in the "NO NUKES" crowd was the Japanese involvement in bio warfare in China.

>>Biological Weapons Program

Between 1932 and 1945 Japan experiments included testing biological weapons on humans, and attacked 11 Chinese cities with biological weapons. The Japanese, as the US learned at the end of World War II, had been making significant progress learning about traditional biological warfare agents like botulism and anthrax.

The US Army sent several investigators to Japan after the war to interrogate captured Japanese scientists. Leading the team was Dr. Norbert Fell and Lt. Col. Arvo Thompson. Working with Gen. Douglas MacArthur's intelligence team at Supreme Commander Allied Powers (SCAP), Dr. Fell and Thompson learned the full extent of the Japanese program headed by Lt. Gen. Shiro Ishii.

From 1938-1945 Ishii carried on experiments against POW's, including US forces at the Mukden POW Camp in northeast China. He directed Unit 731, the secret Japanese unit engaged in human experimentation. Ishii was initially given command of the "Togo Unit" of 300 men, which rapidly grew and acquired additional "cover" identities. The first major BW facility was built at Beiyinhe, some 70km outside Harbin, known locally as the "Zhong Ma Prison Camp. Open air testing on prisoners was conducted at the the officially named "Water Purification Unit 731" at Pingfan near Harbin, a remote, desolate area on the Manchurian Peninsula. Pingfan's 6 square kilometers housed more than 150 buildings, including administrative buildings, laboratories, workers dormitories, and barracks. By 1945, the Japanese program had stockpiled 400 kilograms of anthrax to be used in a specially designed fragmentation bomb. Studies continued there until 1945, when the Unit 731 complex was leveled by burning it. <<

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/japan/bw/

Japan needed a severe wake up call. They killed millions of Chinese people.

DK


24 posted on 08/06/2006 8:20:19 AM PDT by Dark Knight
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

****The firebombing was carried out by thousands of planes ...

But the bomb that was dropped on Hiroshima required no such effort. One plane,The Enola Gay, one crew of twelve, one bomb, Little Boy.***

And this is the REAL reason liberals and handwringers bewail the A-bomb. No one cries about the firebombing of Tokyo because many planes carrying many bombs were used whereas Hiroshima had one plane carrying one bomb.

Kind of like the bewailment of the current Isralei response to Hezbullah.


25 posted on 08/06/2006 8:22:15 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Democrats have never found a fight they couldn't run from...Ann Coulter)
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To: AirBorn

Happy BOOMday!


26 posted on 08/06/2006 8:24:33 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: oh8eleven
Oh there would have been some that would have fought on until they were all dead no doubt about it. Fanatics are remarkably similar in that way.

But it is also true that even in a fanatical society you will find very few that are true fanatics. Even if the coup had momentary success they would have been quickly overthrown. The human instinct is to live, not die.

27 posted on 08/06/2006 8:25:14 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (A propensity to hope and joy is real riches; one to fear and sorrow, real poverty)
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To: Dark Knight
They were playing for time until they could get their own super weapon up and running, there is no doubt about it.

I shudder to think of what they might have achieved if we had delayed another six months. They were so very close. The only thing lacking was a delivery system. And a epidemic unleashed at that point would have hurt the US but it would have devastated Europe and Asia.

28 posted on 08/06/2006 8:31:16 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (A propensity to hope and joy is real riches; one to fear and sorrow, real poverty)
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To: oh8eleven
Atomic bomb is dropped on Hiroshima And the Japanese still didn't surrender.

The Japanese war cabinet was divided evenly about surrendering after the second a-bomb was dropped on Japan. Only the invention of the Emperor bought about the surrender of Japan.

Besides the fact that the dropping of the a-bomb save million of America and Japanese lives, it also stopped Soviet expansion in Asia. The U.S.S.R. declared war on Japan on August 8 and if the war had continued the U.S.S.R. would have invaded and occupied large parts of northern China and northern Japan. And the U.S.S.R would have had a presence in the Far East just like they did in Eastern Europe.

As it was, the Soviets occupied North Korea and set up a communist government in that area. A government that still causes us problems to this day. Now imagine the problems if the Soviets set up Stalinist puppet governments in Northern Japan or Northern China.
29 posted on 08/06/2006 8:31:42 AM PDT by Ticonderoga34
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To: AirBorn

Thank God for the bomb.


30 posted on 08/06/2006 8:32:03 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: bushfamfan

Harry Truman is highly overrated.Now if we could only get Teddy Roosevelt in charge somehow---


31 posted on 08/06/2006 8:39:19 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (Every time a toilet flushes,another liberal gets his brains.)
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To: Made in USA
Image hosted by Photobucket.com with all those bomb craters it looks more like Europe than a Nuke hit on Japan... and the picture properties say the title is Wessel_1945.
32 posted on 08/06/2006 8:46:45 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist )
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To: AirBorn
the atomic bomb heralded the "harnessing of the basic power of the universe".

While we were impressed with ourselves at the time, we probably wouldn't say that exactly that way now. The hydrogen bomb was still a few years away.

33 posted on 08/06/2006 8:50:44 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
Even if the coup had momentary success they would have been quickly overthrown.
I sincerely doubt it, but we'll never know. Just reading the first three paragraphs of the "Japanese Plan for September Defense of Kyushu, Report, Dec 1945." (PDF) lets you know they were more than ready and totally underestimated..

[snip]
"...it was estimated that 421,000 Japanese troops were on KYUSHU"
"Information secured since the occupation of reveals that the overall total strength on KYUSHU of Japanese units of all services and types as of the final day of hostilities totaled approximately 735,000."
34 posted on 08/06/2006 8:59:03 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: AirBorn

This is a good day! All kinds of Leftist morons will spout off about how evil we were and the great thing is they NEVER actually understand the situation at the time. The number of people we killed that day was less than the number of people starving to death each week because there was a war going on. With any luck, their argument will be slayed by facts and they will move on to explain how we started WW2 with a Japanese oil embargo and we knew Pearl Harbor was coming. I can play with some people for hours with this game.


35 posted on 08/06/2006 9:01:41 AM PDT by When do we get liberated? ((Multi-culturism, go for a dirt nap. If you cant stand behind our troops, stand in front of them.)
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To: Made in USA

Common reaction at the time: Wow! One bomb did all that!


36 posted on 08/06/2006 9:04:59 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: oh8eleven
Oh I have no doubt that they were ready for a land invasion. We would have been cut to pieces. But once the bomb made it's appearance we would not have even attempted a land invasion so the point is moot.

If the coup had been successful they would have been over thrown when the third or fourth bomb had landed. Remember that only half of the die hards that made up the war council were willing to fight to the death. Their base of support was very small indeed. It would have delayed the outcome but probably by no more then a few weeks at most.

37 posted on 08/06/2006 9:17:20 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (A propensity to hope and joy is real riches; one to fear and sorrow, real poverty)
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To: cartoonistx; speedy; liege

In that case you're father and his buds owe my cousin a beer. Oppenheimer gave him sole responsibility for one component of the bomb [detonators]. My cousin was twenty one years old at the time.


38 posted on 08/06/2006 9:29:51 AM PDT by HockeyPop
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To: AirBorn

Another event that happen on this date.First use of the electric chair in the United States (1890)


39 posted on 08/06/2006 9:34:05 AM PDT by mware (Americans in armchairs doing the job of the media.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
But once the bomb made it's appearance we would not have even attempted a land invasion so the point is moot.
Sorry, we disagree again. The fact the Japanese didn't surrender after Hiroshima only reinforced the idea that an invasion was inevitable.

If the coup had been successful they would have been over thrown when the third or fourth bomb had landed.
We only had two - after Nagasaki there were no more.
40 posted on 08/06/2006 9:40:59 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: AirBorn
Is it August 6th again already....

Happy Hiroshima Day!!!!
41 posted on 08/06/2006 9:41:53 AM PDT by rottndog (WOOF!!!)
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To: Made in USA
Actually that is a picture of Wesel, Germany, after allied bombing, as can be seen by the many smaller impact craters in the image.

The image can be viewed on its Wikipedia page.

42 posted on 08/06/2006 9:52:07 AM PDT by Heatseeker
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To: AirBorn

Thank you President Truman, you saved the lives of 2 of my uncles along with hundreds of thousands of other brave men.


43 posted on 08/06/2006 10:08:10 AM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: oh8eleven
The US certainly prepared for it. Thousands of troops and many ships were to embark from Rough and Ready Island, up river at Stockton, California, for the assault. Travel time from SF to Yokohama would have been about 15 days.
44 posted on 08/06/2006 10:14:25 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: oh8eleven
We only had two - after Nagasaki there were no more.

Not exactly true. We had four of them. One was Trinity, one was Little Boy, one was Fat Man and the fourth was unused.

After that we had no more sitting in storage but making more was quite possible.

47 posted on 08/06/2006 10:26:36 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (A propensity to hope and joy is real riches; one to fear and sorrow, real poverty)
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To: AirBorn

The "Euro-Weenies"(etcetera,ad nauseum)of today would characterize this as a"Disprortionate Response"!In their eyes,we should have waited for Germany and Japan to acquire nukes so they could hit us back????


48 posted on 08/06/2006 10:37:22 AM PDT by bandleader
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To: cartoonistx

The man who was to become my father had(finally)been drafted in March,1945.His designation was I.R(infantry replacement).He was(because of the atom bombs)able to marry the young woman who would become my mother at Camp Croft,Spartanburg,S.C.on Oct. 10th,1945!


49 posted on 08/06/2006 10:41:54 AM PDT by bandleader
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To: spookycc

Would he be on his way to(or from)Potsdam?


50 posted on 08/06/2006 10:42:56 AM PDT by bandleader
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