Skip to comments.Half of U.S. Still Believes Iraq Had WMD
Posted on 08/06/2006 10:17:42 AM PDT by cyberdasher
Unable to link directly to AP. . .
(Excerpt) Read more at wikistan.com ...
A rather selective assessment of the whole WMD story from the AP.
That number shall climb before November.
Half of the US knows the facts.
I love the use of the word "still."
How about a story that says what portion of the country "still" doesn't believe that Iraq had a pre-invasion relationship with al Qaeda?
They must only hire liars and frauds Asso Propaganda.
How do you figure?
.....And the other half are the morons you see on the road who still have Kerry/Edwards ad Bush Lied bumper stickers on their rusty ,used Volvos
uhhhh well yeah, because they DID.
AP writers still don't know what "torture" really is either, although there are any number of folks here and there who would volunteer to show them any time ~
On the otherhand most of the U.S. believes (SSA) Social Security is NOT PURE SOCIALISM...
Chimpy's just oddly hypnotic, that's the only possible explanation for this. /sarc
AP is the organization that set up the Hillary photo-op confrontation last week where she used Sec Rumsfield as a prop for her 08 Pres campaign kickoff.
100% of Kurds know that Saddam had WMDs.
100% of Kurds know that Saddam had WMDs.
That was considered a "news article"?? I've read Molly Ivins columns that are less slanted.
I still get a kick out of the fact that after the intelligence report detailing the discovery of hundreds of WMDs in Iraq since the invasion, the liberal mantra became "these aren't the WMDs we were looking for." As though we had some list of serial numbers and if a gas shell wasn't on the list, it wasn't really a chemical weapon. The "journalist" writing this story actually mentions the fact we found hundreds of WMDs in the same article where he belittles people who are aware of the fact that we found hundreds of WMDs.
The dinosaur media must be prepping to make another drive at how "uninformed" vast segments of the American people are since the advent of "new media."
What an idiotic, biased headline. If I ever suffer a severe head injury, it's comforting to me knowing I'll still have a career in journalism.
Today: August 06, 2006 at 9:35:43 PDT
Half of U.S. Still Believes Iraq Had WMD
By CHARLES J. HANLEY
Do you believe in Iraqi "WMD"?
Did Saddam Hussein's government have weapons of mass destruction in 2003?
Half of America apparently still thinks so, a new poll finds, and experts see a raft of reasons why: a drumbeat of voices from talk radio to die-hard bloggers to the Oval Office, a surprise headline here or there, a rallying around a partisan flag, and a growing need for people, in their own minds, to justify the war in Iraq.
People tend to become "independent of reality" in these circumstances, says opinion analyst Steven Kull.
The reality in this case is that after a 16-month, $900-million-plus investigation, the U.S. weapons hunters known as the Iraq Survey Group declared that Iraq had dismantled its chemical, biological and nuclear arms programs in 1991 under U.N. oversight. That finding in 2004 reaffirmed the work of U.N. inspectors who in 2002-03 found no trace of banned arsenals in Iraq.
Despite this, a Harris Poll released July 21 found that a full 50 percent of U.S. respondents - up from 36 percent last year - said they believe Iraq did have the forbidden arms when U.S. troops invaded in March 2003, an attack whose stated purpose was elimination of supposed WMD. Other polls also have found an enduring American faith in the WMD story.
"I'm flabbergasted," said Michael Massing, a media critic whose writings dissected the largely unquestioning U.S. news reporting on the Bush administration's shaky WMD claims in 2002-03.
"This finding just has to cause despair among those of us who hope for an informed public able to draw reasonable conclusions based on evidence," Massing said.
Timing may explain some of the poll result. Two weeks before the survey, two Republican lawmakers, Pennsylvania's Sen. Rick Santorum and Michigan's Rep. Peter Hoekstra, released an intelligence report in Washington saying 500 chemical munitions had been collected in Iraq since the 2003 invasion.
"I think the Harris Poll was measuring people's surprise at hearing this after being told for so long there were no WMD in the country," said Hoekstra spokesman Jamal Ware.
But the Pentagon and outside experts stressed that these abandoned shells, many found in ones and twos, were 15 years old or more, their chemical contents were degraded, and they were unusable as artillery ordnance. Since the 1990s, such "orphan" munitions, from among 160,000 made by Iraq and destroyed, have turned up on old battlefields and elsewhere in Iraq, ex-inspectors say. In other words, this was no surprise.
"These are not stockpiles of weapons of mass destruction," said Scott Ritter, the ex-Marine who was a U.N. inspector in the 1990s. "They weren't deliberately withheld from inspectors by the Iraqis."
Conservative commentator Deroy Murdock, who trumpeted Hoekstra's announcement in his syndicated column, complained in an interview that the press "didn't give the story the play it deserved." But in some quarters it was headlined.
"Our top story tonight, the nation abuzz today ..." was how Fox News led its report on the old, stray shells. Talk-radio hosts and their callers seized on it. Feedback to blogs grew intense. "Americans are waking up from a distorted reality," read one posting.
Other claims about supposed WMD had preceded this, especially speculation since 2003 that Iraq had secretly shipped WMD abroad. A former Iraqi general's book - at best uncorroborated hearsay - claimed "56 flights" by jetliners had borne such material to Syria.
But Kull, Massing and others see an influence on opinion that's more sustained than the odd headline.
"I think the Santorum-Hoekstra thing is the latest 'factoid,' but the basic dynamic is the insistent repetition by the Bush administration of the original argument," said John Prados, author of the 2004 book "Hoodwinked: The Documents That Reveal How Bush Sold Us a War."
Administration statements still describe Saddam's Iraq as a threat. Despite the official findings, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice has allowed only that "perhaps" WMD weren't in Iraq. And Bush himself, since 2003, has repeatedly insisted on one plainly false point: that Saddam rebuffed the U.N. inspectors in 2002, that "he wouldn't let them in," as he said in 2003, and "he chose to deny inspectors," as he said this March.
The facts are that Iraq - after a four-year hiatus in cooperating with inspections - acceded to the U.N. Security Council's demand and allowed scores of experts to conduct more than 700 inspections of potential weapons sites from Nov. 27, 2002, to March 16, 2003. The inspectors said they could wrap up their work within months. Instead, the U.S. invasion aborted that work.
As recently as May 27, Bush told West Point graduates, "When the United Nations Security Council gave him one final chance to disclose and disarm, or face serious consequences, he refused to take that final opportunity."
"Which isn't true," observed Kathleen Hall Jamieson, a scholar of presidential rhetoric at the University of Pennsylvania. But "it doesn't surprise me when presidents reconstruct reality to make their policies defensible." This president may even have convinced himself it's true, she said.
Americans have heard it. A poll by Kull's WorldPublicOpinion.org found that seven in 10 Americans perceive the administration as still saying Iraq had a WMD program. Combine that rhetoric with simplistic headlines about WMD "finds," and people "assume the issue is still in play," Kull said.
"For some it almost becomes independent of reality and becomes very partisan." The WMD believers are heavily Republican, polls show.
Beyond partisanship, however, people may also feel a need to believe in WMD, the analysts say.
"As perception grows of worsening conditions in Iraq, it may be that Americans are just hoping for more of a solid basis for being in Iraq to begin with," said the Harris Poll's David Krane.
Charles Duelfer, the lead U.S. inspector who announced the negative WMD findings two years ago, has watched uncertainly as TV sound bites, bloggers and politicians try to chip away at "the best factual account," his group's densely detailed, 1,000-page final report.
"It is easy to see what is accepted as truth rapidly morph from one representation to another," he said in an e-mail. "It would be a shame if one effect of the power of the Internet was to undermine any commonly agreed set of facts."
The creative "morphing" goes on.
As Israeli troops and Hezbollah guerrillas battled in Lebanon on July 21, a Fox News segment suggested, with no evidence, yet another destination for the supposed doomsday arms.
"ARE SADDAM HUSSEIN'S WMDS NOW IN HEZBOLLAH'S HANDS?" asked the headline, lingering for long minutes on TV screens in a million American homes.
Aside from the chemical weapons that were found, along withe the bio stuff, illegal missles and auv's are we supposed to forget Kamel Hussein and his brother. Operation Desert Fox? Oh, that was clinton, a good war.
That would be THEIR customers that are uninformed.
Look at the above headline. Now look at the sentence below that was pulled from the article
Despite this, a Harris Poll released July 21 found that a full 50 percent of U.S. respondents - up from 36 percent last year - said they believe Iraq did have the forbidden arms when U.S. troops invaded in March 2003
How can 50% (HALF) STILL believe if the number who believe has gone UP 14% since last year? A truthful headline would have been "More Americans now believe Iraq had WMD" The rapidly failing media is getting more and more obvious as their desperation to remain relevant reaches critical mass.
...in the same article where he belittles people who are aware of the fact that we found hundreds of WMDs.
The left, especially the MSM, will foreever continue to rewrite reality to suit their agenda. It does not matter what is real or important to anyone other than them.
As far as I know wmd's of various sorts WERE found in Iraq, so why wouldn't 1/2 STILL believe?
Shouldn't the headline read "Half of U.S. STILL DOESN'T believe Iraq had WMD's?
That's funny,because there was a Pew poll just released that showed that listeners of Rush and other talk radio(conservative) were found to be more informed than other Americans.
UN inspectors: Saddam shipped out WMD before war and after
WorldTribune.com ^ | 6/11/04
I think Iran and its proven nuclear weapons program are opening peoples' eyes about what Iraq was capable of. North Korea, too. It's a dangerous world out there, and DESPITE the AP, people are getting a clue about it.
I think the White House caved on this issue when they didn't have to.
No you are not. Both the Tigris and Euphrates tested positive on the first days of the war.
And yet 55%, according to a poll this past week, think our going into Iraq was a mistake. I think most Americans are morons.
I remember. A story, btw, that the Administration let drift down the river along with those chemicals. Why haven't they trumpted this? And do you recall the story from 2004 about the attempted chemical weapons attack on the capital of Jordan? The perpetrators admitted they received their training, their funding, and the weaponized chemical weapon from al Zarqawi in Iraq before Saddam was toppled.
"If you allow someone like Saddam Hussein to get nuclear weapons, ballistic missiles, chemical weapons, biological weapons, how many people is he going to kill with such weapons?
He's already demonstrated a willingness to use these weapons.
He poison-gassed his own people.
He used poison gas and other weapons of mass destruction against his neighbors.
This man has no compunction about killing lots and lots of people...."
-- Al Gore, Dec. 16, 1998
I suspect that by November the only Democrats remaining who will still believe there were no WMD in Iraq will be the same Democrats who think Bush was behind 9/11 - - you know, the illiterate goofball contingent that makes up the Democrat party "base".
>>How many Americans still believe the AP?
The Arab Press? Proven liars.
Most of the rest of us KNOW Saddam had WMD. The Hizzybaloos are waiting for permission from their puppet masters to start using them on the Lebanese people, with the aim of making it look like Israel is doing it.
'My goodness!' Donald Rumsfeld, SECDEF
Yup -- that's the actual headline.
I'll bet more than half of the Kurds that Saddam gassed still believe he had WMD.
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