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1 posted on 08/06/2006 4:06:39 PM PDT by kronos77
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To: joan; zagor-te-nej; Lion in Winter; Honorary Serb; jb6; Incorrigible; DTA; ma bell; Banat; ...

One correction Mr. Olmert: it WAS WRONG to attack Serbia when she conducted counter-insurgency operations against Islamic terrorists. You suffer due to that fact now.

Go IDF!


2 posted on 08/06/2006 4:09:35 PM PDT by kronos77 (www.savekosovo.org say NO to Al-Qaeda new sanctuary (Go IDF!))
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Im not sure what the jurnalist want to say when Mr. Olmert said that "EU killed 10,000 people on Kosovo (Serbia in general, actualy)" and in rest of the article jurnalist says that SERBIAN forces killed them!!!!
Whats that?


3 posted on 08/06/2006 4:11:16 PM PDT by kronos77 (www.savekosovo.org say NO to Al-Qaeda new sanctuary (Go IDF!))
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"Olmert:European countries attacked Kosovo and killed ten thousand civilians"

Alternative, more-correct headline:

BREAKING NEWS: "Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert Grows A Spine, Finds His Cajones." (Bravo, Ehud!)

There; that's more accurate...


4 posted on 08/06/2006 4:16:32 PM PDT by butternut_squash_bisque (The recipe's at my FR HomePage. Try it!)
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To: kronos77

Is it 10,000 or 500 that NATO killed? Seems like big differences of opinion on that in this article.


5 posted on 08/06/2006 4:17:22 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: kronos77

I am liking Olmert more and more.


12 posted on 08/06/2006 4:36:02 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: kronos77
The primary reason the press downplayed (or in many cases, ignored) the thousands of innocent civilian casualties in Kosovo caused by U.S./Allied bombing was simply the fact that a Democrat was the President at the time, and the MSM was simply looking out for their man. The secondary reason is that we were waging war against a Christian country and helping Muslims/terrorists.

If instead a Republican President were in office at the time and the war was conducted in exactly the same manner the MSM would've taken every opportunity to emphasize the civilian dead, and we'd have been inundated with stories/pics of dead women and children non-stop.

13 posted on 08/06/2006 4:39:10 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: kronos77

Serbia was the first nation to engage Al Queda during the conflicts of the 1990s. The United States thanked Serbia by attacking Serbia instead of the KLA.


14 posted on 08/06/2006 5:08:06 PM PDT by garbageseeker (It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog.”Samuel Clemmens)
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To: kronos77

Olmert's numbers may be off but, he is right on target with his point.


16 posted on 08/06/2006 5:22:02 PM PDT by PhillyRepublican
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To: kronos77; Bokababe
Thanks for the thread Kronos77...


 

20 posted on 08/06/2006 5:50:35 PM PDT by Smartass ("In God We Trust" - "An informed and knowledgeably citizen is the best defense against tyranny")
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Are there any history books (w/o bias) that would explain what in the world happened there ? I would really like to read about it.

Thank you in advance.


24 posted on 08/06/2006 6:49:30 PM PDT by vidbizz
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Civilian deaths during Kosovo are only whispered about and then very, very softly after all we had a god in the White House AND in addition to being a Democrat he was after all the first BLACK President, so mums the word everyone and please tone it down to a soft soundless whisper.


25 posted on 08/06/2006 6:49:43 PM PDT by PISANO
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Source:  Click Here
 
KOSOVO  - a land being Islamized by the United States, NATO and United Nations.

By Lee Jay Walker Dip BA MA

Since World War Two you have had three major conflicts in the Balkans involving Orthodox Christian communities and Islamic communities; this applies to Cyprus, Bosnia and Kosovo respectively.  On all three occasions the United States supported the followers of Islam and maybe one day the same will happen to Orthodox Christians in Macedonia?

Yet unlike the large Christian communities of Bosnia and Cyprus, it is the land of Kosovo which is being Islamized and Albanianized under NATO, the UN, and other international institutions who are meant to be neutral.  The media in the West is once more turning a 'blind eye' and information about dead Serbians is not deemed to be important.  Therefore, ethnic cleansing 'Albanian style' is being allowed to gather pace and in time a split may emerge between European members of NATO and the United States, for it would appear that the United States will one day allow Kosovo to become either independent or to join with Albania; whereas France and other European nations may oppose the United States.

However, stories about Serbians and Roma being killed and persecuted in Kosovo should be told, for their lives count and if democracy and liberalism means anything, then Serbians, Roma, and other non-Albanians must have liberty and religious freedom.  Given this, it is important to understand that both Islamization and Albanianization is taking place in modern day Europe, alongside American complicity, which ignited the conflict between Serbians and Albanians in the first place.  It is also worth remembering that Turkish nationalism destroyed Christianity in Turkey in 1915, and Albanian nationalism in Kosovo could easily do the same if allowed.

Therefore, people like Marica Maric are important and her death, like countless other Serbian Orthodox Christians and Roma people, should be told.  For Marica Maric was raped in her home in Belo Polje and then disfigured after being murdered.  Her crime was being a Christian and non-Albanian in Kosovo, yet her death, and countless others, went unnoticed in the West.

In the region of Istok the situation was much worse, for 40 Serbian corpses were found in a single day, including the body of Father Stefan from Budisavac monastery; and only last week two Christian Serbs were killed for merely swimming in a contested region.  More alarming, American troops, NATO troops, and the UN stood by and watched 180,000 Serbian Christians and thousands of Roma being ethnically cleansed.  For in American controlled areas, like Urosevac, the entire Christian population was forced to leave and American troops allowed Albanians to either destroy Serbian homes or to move into their property.  This was ethnic cleansing 'Albanian style' and given American inaction, it could be argued 'American style?'

Getting back to today, it is clear that Serbians and non-Albanians in Kosovo are living in reservations, and it would appear that complete Serbian ethnic cleansing would solve the situation; for the United States lacks either the will or desire to protect Christians in Kosovo in the long-term.  Therefore, the destruction of hundreds of Christian churches and monasteries have been allowed to take place; and just like the Armenian and Assyrian Christians who were annihilated by Turkish and Kurdish Muslims in 1915; it is also important to destroy Christian places of worship and cultural buildings in order to one day create a 'pure Albanian Islamic Kosovo.'

Of course many ordinary American troops and other NATO members, and members of the European Union, do not agree with the United States; and this applies to allowing either an Islamic Kosovo or joining up with Albania.  And His Grace Amfilohije, Orthodox Christian leader, stated that '. . . had it not been for the presence of the international forces in Kosovo at this very moment in Pec, as well as Decani and Gracanica, they too, would have been reduced to rubble and turned into ashes.'

However, Serbians and non-Albanians on the whole can not be protected all over Kosovo, therefore, the international community allowed hundreds of thousands of non-Albanians to be cleansed from their land.  Given this, one day you may only hear the Islamic call to prayer in Kosovo and witness a near 100% Albanian Islamic land.  It is, therefore, ironic that the Ottoman Empire could not fully crush Christian resistance in this region, despite enslaving tens of thousands of young Christian boys for centuries and converting them to Islam; yet since American intervention this land is being emptied of Christians and all non-Albanians.

Therefore, just like Christian migrants who have fled Iraq in their hundreds of thousands since the first American conflict with Iraq, and who today fear Iraq being turned into an Islamic state; it is apparent that Christian civilians mean little in both Kosovo and Iraq.  For both communities have been left to fend for themselves and if Kosovo is to share a similar fate to that of Iraq, then the future is very bleak for Christians in these lands.  This will also mean that both Christian communities have been forced to migrate because of short-term American objectives.

Given this, then why did America support Islam three times out of three against Orthodox Christian communities in the Balkans?  And why is America seen to be anti-Muslim, when in reality the Untied States is not only an ally of Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, and other Islamic nations, but America also helped Islam to obtain a major foothold in Europe, so why is America deemed to be anti-Islamic?  More important, why did the United States and NATO allow the ethnic cleansing of non-Albanians in Kosovo?  For the purpose of American intervention was meant to be based on human-rights and protecting a persecuted minority; yet the same nation allowed Christian civilians to be persecuted and allowed Saudi Arabia and other nations to send vast resources to Bosnia and Kosovo, why?

 

26 posted on 08/06/2006 7:09:55 PM PDT by Smartass ("In God We Trust" - "An informed and knowledgeably citizen is the best defense against tyranny")
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And Fox News uses him to get commentary on what Israel is doing?

31 posted on 08/06/2006 8:38:38 PM PDT by The South Texan (The Democrat Party and the leftist (ABCCBSNBCCNN NYLATIMES)media are a criminal enterprise!)
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To: kronos77

That was Clinton's war - doesn't count......


36 posted on 08/06/2006 9:32:38 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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["Some 10,000 Albanians died in Serbia's 1998-99 counter-insurgency..."]

Remember, in 1999, prior to NATO bombing, the world was told it was 100,000 Albanians were killed by us evil Serbs.

Libo
40 posted on 08/06/2006 10:47:22 PM PDT by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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BUMPS for truth!!!


75 posted on 08/21/2006 8:26:20 AM PDT by eleni121 (General Draza Mihailovich: We will never forget you - the hero of World War Two)
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