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The State As A Rootless Transient (Mark Steyn On Israeli Jews As The Pepe Le Pew Of Mankind Alert)
Jerusalem Post ^ | 08/07/06 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 08/06/2006 6:23:12 PM PDT by goldstategop

One of my favorite all-but-unknown books is The Heart Of Princess Osra, written by Anthony Hope in 1896. Hope hit the big time with The Prisoner Of Zenda and its boffo sequel Rupert Of Hentzau, two rip-roaring yarns in which an English dilettante twice contrives to save from usurpers the throne of Ruritania.

The Heart Of Princess Osra is also set in Hope's fictional Mitteleuropean kingdom, but this time a century and a half earlier - the 1730s - and it's not a rollicking adventure but a series of ill-starred romantic vignettes featuring King Rudolf III's younger sister and various unsuitable suitors. Yet it does make you appreciate how fully the author conceived his fictional landscape: Ruritania wasn't merely the setting of a thriller, so why just use it as such? Hope knew its history, its rulers and its laws long before the events of The Prisoner took place. As evidence of that, look no further than chapter one, page one of Princess Osra:

"Stephen! Stephen! Stephen!"

The impatient cry was heard through all the narrow gloomy street, where the old richly-carved house-fronts bowed to meet one another and left for the eye's comfort only a bare glimpse of blue. It was, men said, the oldest street in Strelsau, even as the sign of the "Silver Ship" was the oldest sign known to exist in the city. For when Aaron Lazarus the Jew came there, seventy years before, he had been the tenth man in unbroken line that took up the business; and now Stephen Nados, his apprentice and successor, was the eleventh.

Old Lazarus had made a great business of it, and had spent his savings in buying up the better part of the street; but since Jews then might hold no property in Strelsau, he had taken all the deeds in the name of Stephen Nados; and when he came to die, being unable to carry his houses or his money with him, having no kindred, and caring not a straw for any man or woman alive save Stephen, he bade Stephen let the deeds be, and, with a last curse against the Christians (of whom Stephen was one, and a devout one), he kissed the young man, and turned his face to the wall and died.

Therefore Stephen was a rich man, and had no need to carry on the business, though it never entered his mind to do anything else...

THAT'S PRETTY darn good. There's not another single reference to Ruritanian Jewry in any of Hope's writing, but he's thorough enough in the conception of his fairytale kingdom even to know what the anti-Semitic property restrictions are. The author located Ruritania somewhere between Saxony and Bohemia, though, thanks to the movie versions of Zenda, we tend to think of it as being in the Balkans. But it doesn't matter where you put it, the likes of Lazarus the Jew are long gone from Strelsau's bustling streets. In Romanian Journey, Sacheverell Sitwell recounted his visit in 1937 to the Bukovina, formerly the easternmost province of the Habsburg Empire, then part of Romania, now in the Ukraine. Its capital, Czernowitz, was a melange of Romanians, Ruthenians, Poles, Germans, Armenians and Swabians, but, as Sitwell couldn't help noticing, you'd never know that from a stroll down Main Street: "There is not a shop that has not a Jewish name painted above its windows. The entire commerce of the place is in the hands of the Jews. Yiddish is spoken here more than German."

Not anymore. The Jews of Czernowitz are dead or fled, as they are from a thousand other cities across Europe. For centuries, the rap against the Hebrews was that they were sinister rootless cosmopolitan types unbound by allegiance to whichever polity they happened to be residing in. So, after the Second World War, the ones who were left became a more or less conventional nation state, and now they're hated for that.

But all the hoo-ha about Holocaust denial (and granted, from President Ahmadinejad to Mel Gibson's dad, there's a lot of it about) has obscured the fact that the world has re-embraced, with little objection, an older form of anti-Semitism. Israel is, in effect, subject to a geopolitical version of the same conditions endured by Lazarus the Jew in Anthony Hope's Strelsau.

The Zionist Entity is for the moment permitted to remain in business but, like Aaron Lazarus, it's not entitled to the enforceable property rights of every other nation state. No other country - not Canada, not Slovenia, not Thailand - would be expected to forego the traditional rights of nations subjected to kidnappings of its citizens, random rocket attacks into residential areas, and other infringements of its sovereignty. This isn't about who's right and who's wrong: there are regional flare-ups all over the map and, regardless of the rights and wrongs, for the most part the world just sits back and lets them get on with it. There are big population displacements - as there were, contemporaneous to the founding of Israel, in Europe and the Indian sub-continent - but one side wins and the other makes do with what it can get and the dust settles.

The energy expended by the world in denying this particular regional crisis the traditional settlement is unique and perverse, except insofar as by ensuring that the "Palestinian question" is never resolved one is also ensuring that Israel's sovereignty is also never really settled: it, too, is conditional - and, to judge from recent columns in The Washington Post and The Times of London, it's increasingly seen that way in influential circles - the Jew is tolerated as a current leaseholder but, as in Anthony Hope's Ruritania, he can never truly own the land. Once again the Jews are rootless transients, though, in one of history's blacker jests, they're now bemoaned in the salons of London and Paris as an outrageous imposition of an alien European population on the Middle East.

Which would have given Aaron Lazarus a laugh. The Jews spent millennia on the Continent without ever being accepted as European. But no sooner are the Continent's Jewry all but extinct than suddenly every Jew left on the planet is a European.

In her Impressions From The Road, With Historical Essays (1903), Elizaveta de Vitte witnessed the same phenomenon in the Bukovina Sacheverell Sitwell later noted, but blamed the success of the Jews for the poverty of the Russians: "Out of the 600 students in the Chernowitz University, only 50 are Russian! It is true that admission to the University is open to everyone, but the actual enrollment happens in the following way: on a set day, Jews block the doors of the University..."

The Zionists' "disproportionate" response in Lebanon is merely the latest version of the famous Jewish pushiness.

With hindsight, even the artful invention of the hitherto unknown ethnicity of "Palestinian" can be seen as the need to demonstrate that where there is a Jew there is the Jew's victim.

It's a very strange feeling to read 19th century novels and travelogues and recognize the old psychoses currently reemerging in even more preposterous forms. These are dark times for the world: we are on the brink of the nuclearization of ancient pathologies.


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The Jews are now blamed for being "too European," "too cosmopolitan," "too Western" - in a word, uppity. Uppity for having their own state and having the temerity to insist on behaving like every other nation on earth. There's the irony in the current view of the Jew: once despised as outsiders, they're now despised as the ultimate insiders. Damn them for their pushiness! Theodor Herzl, the founder of Zionism, though eliminating Jewish homelessness would win the Jews more acceptance and esteem. If anything, it earned them more hatred and scorn now that they do have a nationality. No matter what Jews do, it never quite seems to be enough to change their condition as the Pepe Le Pew of mankind. For me personally, Czernowitz is a place that has ancestral echoes. I see my father's family refracted back to that place where they once in lived in Mark Steyn's brilliant essay on how the Jew now extinct there, now in Israel with an independent nationality is still perceived as a subject the world talks about either in drunken rants or hushed whispers and not at all in a sense meant to be complimentary.

(Go Israel, Go! Slap 'Em Down Hezbullies.)

1 posted on 08/06/2006 6:23:16 PM PDT by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop
With hindsight, even the artful invention of the hitherto unknown ethnicity of "Palestinian"

I see that the inestimable Mr. Steyn got my letter.

L

2 posted on 08/06/2006 6:33:35 PM PDT by Lurker (I support Israel without reservation. Hizbollah must be destroyed to the last man.)
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To: goldstategop

I am sure I have asked this before. So please be patient, since I still don't have the answer.

Why are American Jews predominantly democrat/liberal when the American right in general and President Bush in particular are the best friends Israel has ever had ?


3 posted on 08/06/2006 6:33:45 PM PDT by prov1813man
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To: goldstategop

In Moab on a mountain once,
I took my stave in hand,
And gazed out wistfully upon
The hoped-for promised land.
Then bade me Death my eyes to close,
And drew me far away,
Behind a rampant stallion,
In heaven’s formless dray.
When here I stopped, in bonds of flesh,
I bound myself to earth,
Again (who have with Pharaoh walked)
To know the dread of birth.
And have I come thus, far in time,
My bootless rod in hand,
To sigh upon a mountain-top,
For you, my Promised Land?


4 posted on 08/06/2006 6:36:56 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: prov1813man
I'm sure you have. Its that baggage from Europe. Jews carry it like a memory and things are slow to change. Jews are changing but I wouldn't look for a change in partisan identification/political outlook til much of the 60s radical generation is gone.

(Go Israel, Go! Slap 'Em Down Hezbullies.)

5 posted on 08/06/2006 6:37:07 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

Interesting. Thanks for posting this.


6 posted on 08/06/2006 6:38:28 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: goldstategop
Once again, Steyn has made a profound point with grace and wit.

This piece was like the movie which leaves the audience stunned and speechless at the end, resulting in a palpable pause before the audience starts to file out...silently.

Thanks for the post.

7 posted on 08/06/2006 6:43:21 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: prov1813man
Why are American Jews predominantly democrat/liberal...? Here's Don Feder's answer.
8 posted on 08/06/2006 6:54:27 PM PDT by yatros from flatwater (Yeshayahu 26:4)
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To: goldstategop

The situation has flipped. It's now the stateless Muslims who are insinuating their way into European countries. The real threat of Islamism has replaced the imagined threat of Zionism.


9 posted on 08/06/2006 6:54:51 PM PDT by AZLiberty (Creating the <a href="http://clinton.senate.gov">straddle</a> Google bomb one post at a time.)
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To: goldstategop
For me, it comes down to these three facts...
1. Israelis make good neighbors
2. Members of Hizb'allah don't make good neighbors
3. It's a small, small world.
10 posted on 08/06/2006 6:56:46 PM PDT by syriacus (It's a small world after all. I'd rather have Israelis as neighbors than have Hizb'allah as neigbors)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Who wrote that?


11 posted on 08/06/2006 6:57:47 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: yatros from flatwater
There's also the fact most secular American Jews are liberal and for them liberalism is their religion. Its replaced Judaism and they do not think for the most part, first and foremost as Jews. They think as liberals and that explains the continued voting loyalty of most American Jews to the Democratic Party, even when it runs counter to Jewish interests in both continued Jewish survival and in Israel's welfare.

(Go Israel, Go! Slap 'Em Down Hezbullies.)

12 posted on 08/06/2006 7:06:27 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: prov1813man

There is no rational basis for it that I can think of other than that a democratic administration was in charge of fighting WWII. That was the dawn of 20th century democratic party power, and it probably had a lot to do with Jewish support of democrats, and then liberals, and then socialists.


13 posted on 08/06/2006 7:10:23 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Supporting the troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: prov1813man
Why are American Jews predominantly democrat/liberal when the American right in general and President Bush in particular are the best friends Israel has ever had ?

Some American Jews see the religious right as Jew-hating fanatics.

14 posted on 08/06/2006 7:12:56 PM PDT by TChad
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To: goldstategop
This isn't about who's right and who's wrong: there are regional flare-ups all over the map and, regardless of the rights and wrongs, for the most part the world just sits back and lets them get on with it.

You can pretty much throw a dart blindfolded at a map of subsaharan Africa and find a spot in crisis or warfare or upheaval but that's no crisis, as far as Europe or the rest of the world is concerned. No UN-sponsored cease-fire agreements, no wall-to-wall coverage on CNN. It's apparantly just the Israel question that needs to be decided by outsiders.

15 posted on 08/06/2006 7:21:25 PM PDT by garbanzo (Government is not the solution to our problems. Government is the problem.)
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To: TChad

Upwards of 70% of the religious right are fully supportive of Israel in the current conflict. With enemies like that, who needs friends?


16 posted on 08/06/2006 7:28:47 PM PDT by caspera
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To: goldstategop
Indeed, the Democratic Party is THE secularist party. So, that secular Jews find a political home there is hardly surprising. If one no longer trusts G-d, then one builds a 'god' of the state.
17 posted on 08/06/2006 7:30:12 PM PDT by yatros from flatwater (Yeshayahu 26:4)
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To: prov1813man
I think this is changing.

When I was 14 years old (I'm Jewish), my grandparents got me a subscription to The Nation, which, as you may know, is a far-left publication that is sacred to many liberals.

By the time I was 19, I was a College Republican, and an assistant editor for a conservative monthly campus paper.

Now, 14 years later, I have convinced my dad and other members of my family to vote GOP, at least in the national election.

Socialism runs deep in Jewish families. It's not an antisemitic slur when someone mentions that Marx and Trotsky and many others were Jews. The concept of the kibbutz, of communal living, of sharing and working in family units once drew many Jews to the left. Moreover, there was a strain of conservative that, up until 20 years ago, wasn't very friendly to Jews.

The net result is that the left has benefited greatly from Jewish volunteers and from money from Jewish donors. We tend to be very active politically (we have to be), and with a lot of successfully Jewish professionals and businessmen (and women), there are a lot of financial resources there.

But in the last 15 years, things have changed. A rabidly antisemitic left that has found common cause with radical Islam means that, except for the most deluded, this love-affair between the Jews and the left is over.
18 posted on 08/06/2006 7:37:06 PM PDT by Civ
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19 posted on 08/06/2006 7:40:41 PM PDT by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 66-68)
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To: caspera
Upwards of 70% of the religious right are fully supportive of Israel in the current conflict. With enemies like that, who needs friends?

I don't think that the viewpoint is particularly rational, and I don't know how widely held it is. The other side of the coin is that Jews know that they don't have to vote Republican to receive Republican support for Israel.

That said, I wonder how many American Jews really give a damn about Israel. I've known quite a few Jews who didn't seem to care about Israel, or even about Judaism.

20 posted on 08/06/2006 7:48:56 PM PDT by TChad
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Great poem.


21 posted on 08/06/2006 7:53:44 PM PDT by madison10
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Did you write the poem, Mr. Ramsbotham? I cannot find references to it elsewhere.


22 posted on 08/06/2006 8:02:24 PM PDT by madison10
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To: expatpat
Here's the website (?) where the poem is...there are more. Douglas Oswell is the author apparently. Title of poems: The Prophet's Lament
23 posted on 08/06/2006 8:07:14 PM PDT by madison10
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To: prov1813man

If you are raised by a Jewish mother, you grow up guilty.


24 posted on 08/06/2006 8:08:16 PM PDT by MainFrame65
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To: goldstategop
This much is true: Israel is a besieged outpost of Western Civilization, and if that outpost falls, the rest of Western Civilization will be besieged next. The sooner Europeans figure that out, the safer they will be - if it is not already too late.
25 posted on 08/06/2006 8:08:27 PM PDT by Malesherbes
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To: Civ

a sign of the changing times http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1678135/posts


26 posted on 08/06/2006 8:19:28 PM PDT by xp38
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To: goldstategop

Excellent article!


27 posted on 08/06/2006 8:36:57 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: goldstategop

Mark Steyn lays it on the line, as always.


28 posted on 08/06/2006 8:49:24 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (HaGedolim tzerikhim limshol--`AKHSHAYV!)
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To: prov1813man

Dennis Prager has written on this. See Jewish World Review. But there is more to it. Jews attend the "Best Universities"; That's the story right there. I was fortunate enough to have William Kristol as a professor for 2 seminars as a senior at Penn. Still, all History, Poli Sci. and Econ. majors, even Wharton, were trained to graduate as communists, and only a few of us have filtered it out since.


29 posted on 08/06/2006 9:43:46 PM PDT by jschwartz
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To: prov1813man
Why are American Jews predominantly democrat/liberal when the American right in general and President Bush in particular are the best friends Israel has ever had ?

If I may be so bold to answer your question from my perspective, Jews see politics as separate from friendship. Their politics are based not on who is their friend, but on what they believe in. The are liberal primarily because they believe in freedom over state control as the state is the one who leads the way in pogroms of Jewish mass extinction.

Thats my guess, from living with them for years...

30 posted on 08/06/2006 9:51:02 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: caspera

What few Jews realize is that the Religious Right are as misrepresented by the media as the Jews. The real Christian has always been the friend of the Jews. It took the internet to break the bonds of the main stream medias lies about both the Jews and Christianity.


31 posted on 08/06/2006 9:54:54 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: madison10; expatpat

Thanks; I wrote that many years ago, after reading Josephus's "The Jewish War" for the first time. It's part of a longer piece I called "The Prophet's Lament." Somehow it just seems appropriate in the present circumstances.


32 posted on 08/07/2006 12:29:56 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Lurker

If it is the letter I am thinking of it is posted on his website.


33 posted on 08/07/2006 1:43:38 AM PDT by Cdnexpat
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Hi,
Your poem reminded me of an old neighbor of mine.
She was an Imigrant from Russia. Tashkent.
She was once lamenting that in Russia she was not Russian, but a 'Jew'. And then, after coming to Brooklyn, NY she again felt outside of the affluent jewish community: She said here I'm not a 'Jew', but a 'Russian'.


34 posted on 08/07/2006 3:19:23 AM PDT by Sarah
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35 posted on 08/07/2006 5:09:50 AM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do!)
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To: goldstategop

It's a very strange feeling to read 19th century novels and travelogues and recognize the old psychoses currently reemerging in even more preposterous forms.

***

Zechariah 12:2 Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem.

Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though ALL the people of the EARTH be gathered together AGAINST IT.


36 posted on 08/07/2006 5:33:45 AM PDT by Esther Ruth (Behold, he that keepeth Israel shall neither slumber nor sleep. The LORD is thy keeper!)
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To: TChad
>> Some American Jews see the religious right as Jew-hating fanatics.<<

So, isn't that contraintuitive, since Evangelical Christians are the most enthusiatic supporters of Israel?

37 posted on 08/07/2006 6:01:54 AM PDT by doberville
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To: TChad
Some American Jews see the religious right as Jew-hating fanatics

It's more likely that they depise the religious right because it so strongly embraces what is, essentially, the ultimate Jewish heresy: Christianity. It is the religious bigotry of such Jews, not their fear, that fuels their hatred. The religious right is the Christian group that is most sympathetic in its views regarding Jews in a religous sense to be found in America today.

To the extent that fundamentalist Christians and Jews are at odds, it is because they clash on important social political views: on matters such as abortion, gay rights, capital punishment, second amendment rights, and church and state separation. But again, most of these matters are really political at their core and trace more to the differences between the urban and provincial social backgrounds of the contending groups than they do to religious factors.

Historically, American Jews felt alienated from the Republican Party not because that is where the Christian fundamentalists were found (it was not). Rather, it was because country club establishment Republicans, the party of the Rockefellers and Fords, were infected with a strong strain of anti-semitism and worked hard to exclude Jews, especially successful Jews, socially and professionally.

38 posted on 08/07/2006 6:02:24 AM PDT by JCEccles
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To: prov1813man
Why are American Jews predominantly democrat/liberal when the American right in general and President Bush in particular are the best friends Israel has ever had ?

This question was given to Mark Levin on his radio program. My apologies to the Great One if I do not state his answer as well as he, but basically Mark said that they are Liberals first, and Jews second. In other words, they worship at the altar of Liberalism, not Judaism.

To that I might add an observation given to me by one of my college Sociology professors (a good professor, as I recall): Judaism is not merely a religion. It is both a religion and an ethnicity. There are Jews (ethnic) who are, per se, not Jewish (religious). They may not have stepped into a Synagogue in 40 years. Can they be portrayed by the media as "Jews"? Of course. But they are not religious. These Jews probably feel much more at home with Liberalism than with their "co-religionists."

39 posted on 08/07/2006 6:17:01 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Freedom isn't free, but the men and women of the military will pay most of your share)
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To: JCEccles
"Rather, it was because country club establishment Republicans, the party of the Rockefellers and Fords, were infected with a strong strain of anti-semitism and worked hard to exclude Jews, especially successful Jews, socially and professionally."

- This was true right up to the 1950's when this "segregation", especially amongst society's elites and their institutions began to break down and admit Jews.
Now, in some respects, the situation has almost reversed itself. One has only to watch the credits role at the end of many made for TV programs and virtually every movie out of Hollywood to see the predominance of Jewish names in virtually every key role from producers, directors to writers and actors.
When it comes to the entertainment industry, the Jews have become the Rockefellers and Fords of the 21st. century.
40 posted on 08/07/2006 6:35:03 AM PDT by finnigan2
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To: goldstategop
the Jew is tolerated as a current leaseholder but, as in Anthony Hope's Ruritania, he can never truly own the land.

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Very well said.

41 posted on 08/07/2006 6:40:08 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: caspera
re: Upwards of 70% of the religious right are fully supportive of Israel in the current conflict. With enemies like that, who needs friends?)))

Upwards of 75% of American Jews voted against George Bush and for John Kerry. Even the nominally "pro-Israel" (at least in their press releases) liberal Jews like Dershowitz work tirelessly for anti-Israel candidates like Hillary Clinton.

And by anti-Israel, I mean those pols who might cluck and shake their heads over Man's Inhumanity to Jews...and then will shrug and cavil when Israel really needs our help.

"Are you dropping dead? You poor dear....... I'll attend the Blue Ribbon panel sometime next year."

Delay was the strongest, most passionate pro-Israel rep in the House. Did he get any help from even the conservative Jews? Delay was that unforgiveable thing...one of those embarassing evangelicals. Not our kind, deah.

Look at what is happening to Lieberman--that he is a Jew and pro-Israel is the elephant in the room that no Lamont supporter will discuss. Look at his blogs and notice all the "code language" that is supposed to enrage Jews and fill them with "never again" passions. Not a peep about it. Not a darned peep.

Benign neglect is just another kind of antisemitism, and almost all US Jews are foursquare behind these pols. It's beyond bewildering to me--more of a self-destructive pathology, based on the Joy of Spite. The joy of spiting the Christian...behold that outpouring of spite here on FR when Mel disgraced himself. Resentment Unmasked.

Which brings us to policy, and the future of US support for Israel. Given that the religious right is probably the only reliable and strongest support for Israel (to the fidgets, blushes and cringes of the few urban Jews who do try to support Israel), how long will the ship of state sail to Israel's aid? The religous right cannot fight all of Israel's political battles, particularly when conservative Jews are too shy to be seen sitting at the same table as the evangelicals.

When a pro-Israel pol like Delay finds himself in need of a few warriors to keep himself viable, there is no reciprocity. How long will pols like Delay rise to serve Israel's interests?

I don't think there'll be many more. If Lieberman is brought down, pols are going to notice that there isn't much in the way of political goodies for those who support Israel.

42 posted on 08/07/2006 7:05:06 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Pokey78

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43 posted on 08/07/2006 7:05:51 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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Steyn bump.

Pokey78, thanks for the ping.

45 posted on 08/07/2006 7:24:46 AM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: scholar; Bullish; linear; yoda swings

Ping


46 posted on 08/07/2006 7:27:32 AM PDT by knighthawk (We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
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To: Pokey78

BTTT


47 posted on 08/07/2006 7:34:15 AM PDT by aculeus
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To: goldstategop
Steyn nails it once again.

Is there anything this man can't deeply analyze?

48 posted on 08/07/2006 8:33:34 AM PDT by Gritty (The "Palestinian question" never resolved ensures Israel's sovereignty is never resolved-Mark Steyn)
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To: prov1813man

Old saying, "They live like Episcopalians and vote like Puerto Ricans." I know young Jewish families who thought it was anathema to vote for Bush's re-election.


49 posted on 08/07/2006 8:50:26 AM PDT by sine_nomine (Confidential to Bush: protect the borders. The first word in "illegal immigrant" is...?)
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To: Pokey78

Thanks for the ping. Steyn nails it again, in remarkably few words.


50 posted on 08/07/2006 9:05:40 AM PDT by irv
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