Skip to comments.N.Korea claims capture of U.S. submersible(or torpedo?)
Posted on 08/07/2006 4:43:12 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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Yes we will. Thank you very much.
You've got to love President Bush! NK's Lil Kim must by now grasp the implications of a mine recon drone outside the port of Hamhung.
As in, you send in the recon drone *prior* to something more valuable/powerful/capable moving in.
That looks like a torpedo...
Almost, but not quite:
"Some 1,500 North Koreans -- lured by the promise of a steamed dumpling each -- made daily visits to the Pueblo during a recent month-long, anti-U.S. rally period, and the government had its hands full preventing visitors from trying to eat everything in sight, said what was left of the newspaper.
Many North Koreans admitted that they thought
it was really Pueblo Colorado they were visiting and most hoped to get a US.Government booklet on how to escape communism.
There we go! Now its fixed.
Actually the drive end looks quite similar to the one pictured in reply 38.
Heh, hen, all their are mines belong to us.
The USS Trojan Horse :-D
I was standing a foot away from it two weeks ago.
From my notes: it is (as per my pacing it off) 3.5 meters in length and with a circumference of about one meter. The screws are quite interesting a double corkscrew ensemble on a central shaft and I would guess that they are counter-rotating. The fins are indeed X configured. The nose features a window on the underside covered with what appears to be thick plastic. The window is approximately the size of a saucer. Above the plastic window, at the extreme forward tip, extends one solitary shaft, like an antenna, about the diameter of a screwdriver shaft. That is approximately 30 cm in length. There are no discernable markings anywhere on the exterior. Other than the plastic window in the nose and the screws, it is entirely flat black
The galley of the Pueblo is now the theater for showing related propaganda films to tourist. Guests sit in (what appears to be) the original molded plastic chairs at the original Formica tables and look at a television on which they play a 15 minute film of the Pueblo Incident (their version). The tail end of the film features a brief recount of the capture of the unmanned submarine. In that film they show still photographs of the thing being carefully dismantled. (It appears that the dismantling took place right there on the beach, or maybe when they got back to Hamhung Port). In those photos it is easy to see the interior of sections of the thing. Each section is packed with discrete modules, or clusters of instruments. On those components it is clear to see the names of various US Defense contractors, as well as Made in USA. stamped on various parts. To my untrained eye, the image of workmanship in the photographs looked very American (i.e. thorough, well done, and complete). I know Korean workmanship well (i.e. incomplete, almost-but-not-quite correct, good enough) and what I saw in the photographs was not what I am accustomed to seeing on the peninsula.
Despite what the North Koreans told me, it was obviously not what we would think of as a submarine. It was more like a large torpedo packed with instruments. I did not serve in the Navy and have no concept of the diameter of a torpedo tube, but I would postulate that what I saw was not necessarily designed to be sent through a tube.
It is, as shown in the photo, housed behind glass and is now the third jewel in the case of captured Yanqui trophies; The USS Pueblo, the cannons from the USS Sherman, and now the unmanned submarine. They are all conveniently located in the heart of Pyongyang on the banks of the river in a location they have designated as that where (supposedly) Kim Il Sungs Great Great Grandfather lead a group of Koreans in burning and sinking the Sherman, then killing the crew. It is terribly convenient that it happened right there in what is now central Pyongyang. The Pueblo unexpectedly and mysteriously appeared at that site about a decade ago after being birthed in Wonson for decades. There is no documented explanation as to how the North Koreans got the Pueblo around to the other side of the peninsula through international waters (without the US knowing and taking action to reclaim the ship). I had known of the Pueblo and Sherman for years, but the unmanned submarine was a startling revelation when I walked down the steps on to the quay.
Bottom line there is something very real behind the glass, and it looks plenty American to my untrained eye. Looking at the photo of the New Mine Reconnaissance System in this page what I saw on the banks of the river in Pyongyang looked strikingly similar especially the screws.
“What is what, a ‘recon torp?’ A fanciful hypothetical born of too many video games. The photograph? An otherwise unidentified ostensible torpedo.”
Hey, I caught one in a small stream on my property last week! It was this...........long, I swear! I would have brought it home, but dang if it didn’t slip out of my hands and right back in the water! And it kept taking pictures of me!