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To: demkicker

If one listens to talk radio in the west, you will hear pure hate of America and all jews.

Even on the best of the conserative shows, the hate caller will get on the air and spew the hate.

At my age, WW2 is still clearly a part of my memory and as I see what is happening today, there is little difference.

If you can listen to radio on the computer or live in the west, you will hear it pure and uncut for hours, from 1 am, at:

It is 810 on the AM dial, the Ray Talifero program, you could still get last nights program, until he comes on again.

No, my nerves do not want me listening to it, but i have in the past.

I do listen to Dr. Bill Wattenberg and John Rothman from that station, Dr. Bill calls it like he sees it. John is a democrat, but does have a good grasp on history and knows Israel.

I do hope you will continue to read this thread, and continue posting.

26 posted on 08/07/2006 5:49:47 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (The American Flag, should be all the uniform an American needs to join the battle to save America...)
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Media bias----no, no, no. Who would ever believe that.

WP Reporter: Israelis Left Rockets Intact, Endangering Civilians to Help War PR
Thanks to the readers that brought this to our attention. Earlier today, Thomas Ricks, Pentagon reporter for The Washington Post and author of the new book "Fiasco: The American Military Adventure in Iraq" was interviewed on CNN by Howard Kurtz. According to the official CNN transcript, the following jaw-dropping conversation took place:

KURTZ: All right, Matthew Chance, stand by, thank you for that report. We will come back to you.

And joining us now here Washington Anne Compton who covers the White House for ABC News, and Thomas Ricks, Pentagon reporter for "The Washington Post" and author of the new book "Fiasco: The American Military Adventure in Iraq."

Tom Ricks, you've covered a number of military conflicts, including Iraq, as I just mentioned. Is civilian casualties increasingly going to be a major media issue? In conflicts where you don't have two standing armies shooting at each other?

THOMAS RICKS, REPORTER, "THE WASHINGTON POST": I think it will be. But I think civilian casualties are also part of the battlefield play for both sides here. One of the things that is going on, according to some military analysts, is that Israel purposely has left pockets of Hezbollah rockets in Lebanon, because as long as they're being rocketed, they can continue to have a sort of moral equivalency in their operations in Lebanon.

KURTZ: Hold on, you're suggesting that Israel has deliberately allowed Hezbollah to retain some of it's fire power, essentially for PR purposes, because having Israeli civilians killed helps them in the public relations war here?

RICKS: Yes, that's what military analysts have told me.

KURTZ: That's an extraordinary testament to the notion that having people on your own side killed actually works to your benefit in that nobody wants to see your own citizens killed but it works to your benefit in terms of the battle of perceptions here.

RICKS: Exactly. It helps you with the moral high ground problem, because you know your operations in Lebanon are going to be killing civilians as well.


KURTZ: Tom Ricks, "The New York Times" reported the other day, quote, "Israel is now fighting to win the battle of perceptions," which to me says the battle of headlines. And, in fact, an Israeli cabinet minister was quoted, not by name, as saying, "That the narrative at the end, is part of the problem." I'm starting to hear echoes of Iraq.

RICKS: Echoes of Iraq, yes. But also the Israelis are very sophisticated in their handling of the media. They consider it part of the battlefield, officially. The word "narrative" always comes up with conversations with Israeli national security officials. They consider shaping the narrative, the battle for the narrative, to be key as part of any war fighting. So they see the media as part of the battlefield. And, in fact, there's some belief from our reporters that they have occasionally targeted the media.

29 posted on 08/07/2006 6:00:18 PM PDT by Founding Father (You cannot wage a war in a politically correct manner and win.)
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To: nw_arizona_granny
Thanks for your kind words. I know what you mean about your nerves. It's the same with me. I can almost feel my blood literally boiling sometimes when I get upset about the insanity going on today.

History is supposed to repeat itself. I hope so. I really do think we'll have to nuke the Middle East into submission in order to get rid of terrorism. I just hope we have the good sense to do it soon, after the dog and pony show of appeasement gets us absolutely nowhere and before they annihilate us first!
30 posted on 08/07/2006 6:02:54 PM PDT by demkicker (democrats and terrorists are intimate bedfellows)
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