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Seattle: Local Muslim leader reluctantly expresses sympathy re terrorist attack @ Jewish Federation
Sound Politics ^ | August 7, 2006 | Stefan Sharkansky

Posted on 08/07/2006 10:03:36 PM PDT by Stoat

Local Muslim leader reluctantly expresses sympathy over terrorist attack at Jewish Federation

Regarding the recent terrorist attack at the Seattle Jewish Federation by a Muslim man motivated by anger with Israel, a leader of a local Muslim organization sent this letter to the Jewish Transcript (published August 4, 2006). I'm underwhelmed.

It is with deep sorrow that we note the one dead and five injured people in the mindless act of cruelty by a hate-filled man. Our hearts go out in sympathy to the injured and to the families of victims.

 

We struggled for some time about whether a statement should be sent out or not, because we would like this to be recognized for the grievous crime that it is, rather than an event that calls for an explanation or apology by Muslims.

In the end, it was decided that we need to extend our sympathies and good will to those who were victimized by this crime because it would prevent misunderstandings between the faiths.

Muslims, Jews and Christians have been working long and hard in this area, to build relationships of respect and trust that have so far endured many tests.

We look forward to the future in which this test, too, shall be endured and people of the three Abrahamic faiths will have come closer in spite of this tragedy.

We would like to close with this hadith from the Prophet Mohammed:

"Those in whose hearts is no mercy for others will not attain the mercy of Allah." (Bukhari and Muslim)

Jeff Siddiqui

American Muslims of Puget Sound, Lynnwood

This is consistent with Siddiqui's ongoing refusal to recognize that Muslims, acting as Muslims, sometimes commit acts of aggression in the name of Islam. He seems to feel that Muslims are only ever victims, persecuted by the government and the targets of a paranoid US. But Siddiqui's letter does clear up any misunderstandings about where he's really coming from, as did his statement in Louis Farrakhan's Final Call website: "
The pro-Israeli spin doctors are in full battle-cry, sending e-mails, articles and making phone calls wherever necessary. The radio and television hosts make a great pretense of 'journalistic inquiry' as they skew their shows against the Arabs and in favor of the poor Israelis," writes Jeff Siddiqui, of American Muslims of Puget Sound, in Seattle, Wash
, not to mention his statement to the P-I the day after the Seattle terrorist attack:
Siddiqui said his organization and several other groups had announced a silent march today to demand a cease-fire in Lebanon and Palestine and to protest Israeli bombing.

 

That march, which starts at 11 a.m. at the Kirkland Marina and ends at Houghton Beach Park, should have no relation to the Seattle shootings, Siddiqui said.

Siddiqui seems to have difficulty acknowledging that the Muslim world suffers from violent anti-Semitic and anti-western pathologies , whether it manifests itself as airplanes flying into office buildings in New York, as a spontaneous shooting in Seattle or in the form of 3,000 rockets fired by Hizbullah on innocent Israeli civilians.


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1 posted on 08/07/2006 10:03:38 PM PDT by Stoat
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To: Stoat

Everyone needs to be aware of this "marketing" ploy on the part of the Religion of Peace folks. More and more you will see them refer to Islam as one of the three Abrahamic religions. As though we're all one big happy family.


2 posted on 08/07/2006 10:12:24 PM PDT by Riverine
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To: Stoat

Indeed, that is one of the lamest, most weaksauce "apologies" I have ever read. You could almost see him gritting his teeth and biting his lip writing this "apology," he probably would more have enjoyed getting a root canal without anesthesia.

He should have immediately issues a public statement condemning this attack instead, or not came up with any "apology" at all. As it stands this only makes him look worse.

As always, it's about them and their suffering, not anyone else's.


3 posted on 08/07/2006 10:16:02 PM PDT by World_Events
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To: sionnsar

Ping a ling


4 posted on 08/07/2006 10:16:26 PM PDT by lonevoice (Vast Right Wing Pajama Party)
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To: Stoat
We struggled for some time about whether a statement should be sent out or not, because we would like this to be recognized for the grievous crime that it is, rather than an event that calls for an explanation or apology by Muslims.

When something goes wrong, I don't have to think twice about saying that I am sorry that it did, and that anyone who was involved was terrible wrong to do what they did.

Why is it so hard for Muslims to come to grips with something this simple. If some nut-job went out and killed some Muslims women, I'd voice my sorrow.

Where did this guy get the hate that filled him? Was it at a mosque? Was it a Muslim firebrand that filled him with rage concerning Israel?

I don't really know that, but I am at a loss to understand why this person felt they must kill innocent Jewish women to make things better.

What a bunch of loosers, him for doing what he did, and those who must search their souls for weeks before doing what any caring human should at the moment they hear of such things.

5 posted on 08/07/2006 10:33:21 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Bring your press credentials to Qana, for the world's most convincing terrorist street theater.)
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To: Riverine


Spot on post.
You're right.


6 posted on 08/07/2006 10:35:46 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: onyx

Thanks. i remember reading here some time ago that they were trying to get some official recognition of this Abrahamic thing. Have you also noticed the tendency to overuse the word "we" and "our" when referring to all of us in the US?. Same kind of thing and even more irritating.


7 posted on 08/07/2006 10:43:31 PM PDT by Riverine
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To: Riverine


I hadn't noticed until I read your post.
Thanks!


8 posted on 08/07/2006 10:51:07 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: Stoat
"Giving credit where it's due.."

Yup, a credit to the human race -- under the liability column of the accounting equation, of course.

9 posted on 08/07/2006 10:51:40 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: DoughtyOne
Why is it so hard for Muslims to come to grips with something this simple.

Because if they were to actually come to grips with it, they would be forced to say something like: "It is obvious that Islam is a complete failure and all cultures that are influenced by Islam to any degree are terribly harmed by it.  We have been kidding ourselves for the past six hundred years and living a great lie.  We can no longer do this....the lie has become impossible to prop up.  So, in order to make a small effort at making amends to the rest of humanity, whom we have harmed so grievously by our lies and our violence, we renounce Islam and the Koran and all related teachings.  All Muslims are hereby ordered to cease and desist from reading the Koran and to burn and destroy all copies of it.  Muslims are hereby ordered to discintinue any and all belief systems pertaining to Islam, and to instead embrace Christianity and Judaism as your new religions.  To the World:  We are terribly sorry and beg your forgiveness for our great evil."

It's very much like the inability of Liberals and Leftists to come to terms with their "religion"....to do so would be to undercut the entire foundation of their world. To embrace logic and truth would be for liberals something like what embracing the Devil would be for Conservatives....it's not gonna happen.

10 posted on 08/07/2006 10:52:14 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat

And the Muslim who does this is "crazy" or "mad."

Sudden Jihadi Syndrome?


11 posted on 08/07/2006 10:53:47 PM PDT by Bubble Girl
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To: Bubble Girl
And the Muslim who does this is "crazy" or "mad."

Sudden Jihadi Syndrome?

 

hehe! And unlike most complex physiological or psychiatric syndromes, there is a very quick and absolutely effective cure for the Syndrome that you have so insightfully pointed out

 

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12 posted on 08/07/2006 11:05:38 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Bubble Girl

Welcome to Free Republic, by the way :-)


13 posted on 08/07/2006 11:06:33 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat
1. According to the liberals, who is the bigger threat? The crazy mooselimb in Seattle? Or Mel Gibson? It's a good thing the crazy mooselimb guy didn't try to make a movie about Jesus...

2. all it takes for Islam to triumph is for good mooselimbs to continue to do NOTHING.

14 posted on 08/07/2006 11:10:23 PM PDT by Captainpaintball (Congress is more afraid of nail guns and illegal aliens than law abiding American citizens)
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To: Captainpaintball
1. According to the liberals, who is the bigger threat? The crazy mooselimb in Seattle? Or Mel Gibson? It's a good thing the crazy mooselimb guy didn't try to make a movie about Jesus...

Actually, I think that the Left secretly loves Mel, because he's become the perfect weapon to demonstrate "Christian hypocrisy" with.  Never mind that he's lived his entire life as a good and decent man and is a devout Catholic....no, forget that.  And forget also that his two or so sentences that they are all in a lather over occurred when he was blind drunk and out of his head.  Forget all that.....they LOVE Mel because he's RELIGIOUS and he GOES TO CHURCH and he BELIEVES IN GOD and so one bad moment in his life can be used to accuse ALL religious people of hypocrisy and of being anti Semitic and completely evil.  I think that the Left loves him to pieces.

2. all it takes for Islam to triumph is for good mooselimbs to continue to do NOTHING.

And also, very importantly, to SAY NOTHING, particularly when it comes to saying anything negative about jihadists in their midst and calling them what they truly are....they are VERY good at that.

15 posted on 08/07/2006 11:20:18 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat
"Those in whose hearts is no mercy for others will not attain the mercy of Allah."

Fortunately for the slimes, they dont consider "others" to even be human beings.

The only thing they regretted was that Johnny Jihad didn't kill more monkey pig people!

16 posted on 08/07/2006 11:28:33 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (I'd rather be carrying a shotgun with Dick, than riding shotgun with a Kennedyl! *-0(:~{>)
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To: rawcatslyentist
"Those in whose hearts is no mercy for others will not attain the mercy of Allah."

I guess mercy doesn't extend to not killing women in the workplace in Seattle or kids and their grandparents at a pizza parlor in Israel. Some religion.

17 posted on 08/07/2006 11:33:35 PM PDT by radiohead (Hey Kerry, I'm still here; still hating your lying, stinking, guts you coward.)
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To: rawcatslyentist
 
"Those in whose hearts is no mercy for others will not attain the mercy of Allah."

Fortunately for the slimes, they dont consider "others" to even be human beings.

The only thing they regretted was that Johnny Jihad didn't kill more monkey pig people!

Absolutely correct and spot-on, essential truths. 

Gee, I wonder why it is that the MSM never reminds us about these very true things that you mention.....about how non-muslims are regarded as no better than cattle, and are completely subhuman.  How Jews are ACTUALLY monkeys....the muzzie children are taught this regularly.

Could it be that (GASP) the MSM might not want us to know the truth?  The Horror!

18 posted on 08/07/2006 11:41:04 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Riverine
...more you will see them refer to Islam as one of the three Abrahamic religions.

And in which of the three was the birthright denied? This timeless jealousy and hate against brother has been the cause of much discord.

19 posted on 08/07/2006 11:41:46 PM PDT by Socratic ("I'll have the roast duck with the mango salsa.")
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To: Stoat

CYA memo.


20 posted on 08/07/2006 11:43:41 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Make your choice and save your tears....AM YISRAEL CHAI!)
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To: Stoat

Fast Acting.. Instant Relief!

/Awesome


21 posted on 08/07/2006 11:59:10 PM PDT by Bubble Girl
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To: Stoat

Thanks for the welcome..

:D


22 posted on 08/07/2006 11:59:47 PM PDT by Bubble Girl
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To: Bubble Girl
Fast Acting.. Instant Relief!

And no chance of a relapse   :-)

Thanks for the welcome..

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23 posted on 08/08/2006 12:07:48 AM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat

Please dis-regard my reply # 9. Jumped the gun without reading the post. (Slaps head!.)


24 posted on 08/08/2006 2:10:12 AM PDT by Eastbound
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To: DoughtyOne

"Why is it so hard for Muslims to come to grips with something this simple?"

Because in their mind they are NEVER wrong! NEVER. It is always the fault of the other guy. Basically, I think that they really don't see a big problem with atrocious acts committed in the name of Islam. They perceive themselves to be superior in every way and they are arrogant enough to expect others to see them that way too. Hence this lame apology.


25 posted on 08/08/2006 3:16:11 AM PDT by Mila
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To: Stoat

BUMP


26 posted on 08/08/2006 3:29:35 AM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: DoughtyOne

The MMM (something akin to the KKK) believes it is thousands of "lone nuts" doing this.

It is a supremacist political ideology. Ask them if they are equals of kufir.


27 posted on 08/08/2006 3:32:28 AM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: Stoat

The Middle East airs programming akin to Germany's "The Eternal Jew" regularly but the media is silent. Prerferring instead to tell us any time a publisher dares to publish any of the "12 cartoons".

If people would like to see some examples, they should watch http://www.obsessionthemovie.com/ which is coming out on DVD now (I've already sent Netflix a request to stock it).


28 posted on 08/08/2006 3:36:47 AM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: Stoat
" We struggled for some time about whether a statement should be sent out or not, because we would like this to be recognized for the grievous crime that it is, rather than an event that calls for an explanation or apology by Muslims. "

Nice , don't apologize because it's wrong and against the laws of man and civilization. Apologize because it could look bad.

Well don't worry about my mis-understanding you or your intent. I know your the enemy. The 10 % you claim to be "radicalized" and the 90 % who are complicit through their silence and allow those butchers to hide in the plain site of your masses.

No Mis-understandings here.

29 posted on 08/08/2006 3:48:56 AM PDT by Kakaze (It's War, no matter how you want to spin it.......It's War)
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30 posted on 08/08/2006 7:02:23 AM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do!)
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because it would prevent misunderstandings between the faiths.

"because it will negatively impact our taqqiya campaign" not "BECAUSE IT IS MORALLY WRONG, EVIL, AND A CRIME"

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31 posted on 08/08/2006 7:33:39 AM PDT by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 72-76)
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To: Stoat
He should consult Mel Gibson on how to craft a decent apology.

Here's my answer to your "apology" Mr. Siddiqui: NIDFOK OTCHA

32 posted on 08/08/2006 7:37:17 AM PDT by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 72-76)
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To: Alouette
Muslims, Jews and Christians have been working long and hard in this area, to build relationships of respect and trust that have so far endured many tests.

Muslims, Jews and Christians have been working long and hard in this area, to build relationships of respect and trust that have so far endured many tests.

There. Fixed it. The terror attacks always start from one side. Always.
33 posted on 08/08/2006 8:00:37 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 1 John 4:15, John 11:25, John 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13)
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To: Stoat; Salem; SJackson; Alouette; unionblue83; sergey1973; ZULU; T.L.Sink; SunkenCiv; ...
"We struggled for some time about whether a statement should be sent out or not, because we would like this to be recognized for the grievous crime that it is, rather than an event that calls for an explanation or apology by Muslims. In the end, it was decided that we need to extend our sympathies and good will to those who were victimized by this crime because it would prevent misunderstandings between the faiths." [snip] We look forward to the future in which this test, too, shall be endured and people of the three Abrahamic faiths will have come closer in spite of this tragedy." [snip] Jeff Siddiqui

Gee, he and his cohorts must have really strained themselves very hard in their "struggle" to apologize, sounds like they barely got it out from their pinched cheeks! Oh, and BTW, Siddiqui, it is TWO Abrahamic faiths, Judaism and Christianity. The ROP (so called) is from another origin.
34 posted on 08/08/2006 8:13:21 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (The Arab League jihad continues on like a fart in an elevator - FR American in Israel)
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To: Stoat

Oh wow... I can see why it's addictive..

:D

Thanks!


35 posted on 08/08/2006 8:17:05 AM PDT by Bubble Girl
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To: Convert from ECUSA
is from another origin.

A strange god, a "god" Abraham knew not ... Daniel Chapter 11:38-39 KJV
36 posted on 08/08/2006 8:19:40 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 1 John 4:15, John 11:25, John 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13)
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To: Stoat

Seems to me that just for P.R.'s sake, they would voice objection even if they didn't fully mean it. As it is, it's obvious their gutt feelings don't match their half-hearted appologies or expressions of sorrow. It's this that makes me wonder if it wouldn't be best to start deporting some of these folks back to the camel farm.


37 posted on 08/08/2006 8:29:18 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Bring your press credentials to Qana, for the world's most convincing terrorist street theater.)
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To: F15Eagle

Exactly!


38 posted on 08/08/2006 8:38:46 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (The Arab League jihad continues on like a fart in an elevator - FR American in Israel)
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39 posted on 08/08/2006 9:09:42 AM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† | Iran Azadi | Appeasement=Suicide | Hezbo rockets carry "peaceheads")
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To: DoughtyOne

>Where did this guy get the hate that filled him?<

With all due respect, this is the first time I've heard a Muslim apologize for what one of his own did. That said, this guy, and all "the guys" who are hate filled, got it on his father's knee, in bedtime stories, in morning prayers, in school. He practically got it from his mother's milk. And it came from the Koran. There is but one God, and He is not hate filled. Satan fashions himself as a God, thus Allah is praised by his fervent followers. To keep in control, Satan divides with hate. IMHO.


40 posted on 08/08/2006 9:28:12 AM PDT by Paperdoll (........Washington Staters, Vote for McGavick!)
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To: Paperdoll

I thought I read somewhere that this guy was a convert. Perhaps that's not accurate.


41 posted on 08/08/2006 9:34:06 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Bring your press credentials to Qana, for the world's most convincing terrorist street theater.)
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To: DoughtyOne


Which guy - the shooter or the hooter?


42 posted on 08/08/2006 9:45:09 AM PDT by Paperdoll (........Washington Staters, Vote for McGavick!)
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To: Paperdoll

Shooter.


43 posted on 08/08/2006 9:46:57 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Bring your press credentials to Qana, for the world's most convincing terrorist street theater.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Okay, you want zeal? Scratch an ex-smoker and they bleed zeal. Converts work in much the same way.


44 posted on 08/08/2006 9:58:44 AM PDT by Paperdoll (........Washington Staters, Vote for McGavick!)
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To: World_Events
Indeed, that is one of the lamest, most weaksauce "apologies" I have ever read.

That's because it wasn't an apology. I mean, how do you "apologise" for something for which you weren't responsible? If some Christian nutbag blew up a mosque, would you expect other Christians to apologise for that?

What the guy was doing was expressing sympathy for the event, not apologizing. Oddly, you calling it a lame apology almost validates his reasoning. He said the only hesitation he had was that someone would consider any expression of sympathy an "apology", as if these other moslems are responsible for what this particular moslem did. He eventually decided that expressing sympathy should outweigh the risk of it getting labelled an "apology". But having it labelled an "apology" is exactly what happened.

I'm not defending moslems in general, or even this particular moslem. I'm just saying that blaming this particular guy for something some other moslem did is wrong, unless there is something showing that he incited the attack or something. Then, I'd agree that an apology should be the minimum that should be demanded.

I'm betting this isn't going to be a very popular response in this thread, though.

45 posted on 08/08/2006 10:17:52 AM PDT by XJarhead
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To: Riverine

Yeah but the other two "Abrahamic religions" don't target women as the Seattle shooter did.

Where is the NOW outrage - all the victims were women. Bloody gutless cowards.


46 posted on 08/08/2006 10:22:52 AM PDT by Let's Roll ( "Congressmen who ... undermine the military ... should be arrested, exiled or hanged" - A. Lincoln)
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To: Riverine
1. There are 3.5 Abrahamic religions. In order of age: Jews, Samaritans, Christians, Muslims.
2. I don't see Jews, Samaritans or Christians targetting innocents.
47 posted on 08/08/2006 10:50:33 AM PDT by rmlew (I'm a Goldwater Republican... Don Goldwater 2006!)
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To: DoughtyOne

He supposedly "converted" to Christianity not long ago.....but prior to that he was raised a MUSLIM....that's what I understand.


48 posted on 08/08/2006 11:02:09 AM PDT by goodnesswins ( The Dems are so far to the left they have left America.)
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To: goodnesswins

Thanks for the clarification.


49 posted on 08/08/2006 11:22:34 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Bring your press credentials to Qana, for the world's most convincing terrorist street theater.)
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To: goodnesswins
I don't know how long he was a Christian, and the research behind the reporting on that has been non existant as far as I know.

I know of no statement from the shooter himself that he was ever Christian, yet the newspaper opinion sections were in overdrive declaring him babtized, bipolar, etc.

It doesn’t make sense that the same man would announce himself a Muslim American and then apparently kill in his faith’s name, unless something else like mental illness was at work. http://www.thenewstribune.com/opinion/editorials/story/5993927p-5267729c.html

The only thing I do know is that he forced his way into a locked facility by putting a gun to a 14 year old girl, then starting shooting while declaring he was a muslim, there to kill jews because he was angry about what the Isralies are doing to Lebanon.

Purely coincidentally, every rag in this state is very one sidely "angry about what the Isralies are doing to Lebanon", and the above opinion is just their way of saying - "don't blame us for fomenting hatred, it's our right but not our fault"

50 posted on 08/08/2006 11:37:19 AM PDT by 4woodenboats (The GOP was created by those opposed to Southern Democrat Plantation Slavery...)
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