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August 22 Does Iran have something in store?
Opinion Journal of Wall Street Journal ^
| August 8, 2006
| Bernard Lewis
Posted on 08/08/2006 11:44:49 AM PDT by BunnySlippers
August 22
By BERNARD LEWIS
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The phrase "Allah will know his own" is usually used to explain such apparently callous unconcern; it means that while infidel, i.e., non-Muslim, victims will go to a well-deserved punishment in hell, Muslims will be sent straight to heaven. According to this view, the bombers are in fact doing their Muslim victims a favor by giving them a quick pass to heaven and its delights -- the rewards without the struggles of martyrdom. School textbooks tell young Iranians to be ready for a final global struggle against an evil enemy, named as the U.S., and to prepare themselves for the privileges of martyrdom.
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A passage from the Ayatollah Khomeini, quoted in an 11th-grade Iranian schoolbook, is revealing. "I am decisively announcing to the whole world that if the world-devourers [i.e., the infidel powers] wish to stand against our religion, we will stand against their whole world and will not cease until the annihilation of all them. Either we all become free, or we will go to the greater freedom which is martyrdom. Either we shake one another's hands in joy at the victory of Islam in the world, or all of us will turn to eternal life and martyrdom. In both cases, victory and success are ours."
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TOPICS: Editorial; Extended News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: ahmadinejad; august22; clashofcivilizations; geopolitics; globaljihad; iran
This is the ACTUAL article by Bernard Lewis that Drudge is commenting on this afternoon. So supplement this with Drudge's piece below:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1679858/posts
Unfortunately the WSJ is subscription only.
To: BunnySlippers
This is just further proof that Islam's "leadership" is a ship of deluded ignorami.
Improvements in technology are putting the lie to much of the propaganda the terrorists have used against Israel and the West. Although this propaganda is most effective on self-loathing leftists and conspiracy kooks, the trouble is they run the MSM and vote.
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posted on
08/08/2006 11:55:40 AM PDT
by
308MBR
( "She pulled up her petticoat, and I pulled out for Tulsa!" Abstinence training from Bob Wills.)
To: 308MBR
I thought it interesting that such an esteemed person as Bernard Lewis gives credence to the August 22nd theory. Actually, I read it here on FR first ... about a month ago.
To: BunnySlippers
Quit hiding behind words Iran. Please, PLEASE come onto the battle field. The result for your the Iranian Army will make the highway of death coming out of Kuwait City in 1991 look like a traffic accident
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posted on
08/08/2006 11:59:07 AM PDT
by
MNJohnnie
(A proportionate response would be the indiscriminate slaughter of Western journalists)
To: BunnySlippers
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posted on
08/08/2006 12:00:56 PM PDT
by
dennisw
(Confucius say man who go through turnstile sideways going to Bangkok)
Comment #6 Removed by Moderator
To: dennisw
Thank you but that is not the full text. The article is 4 or 5 times longer.
I really wish they had put it on Opinion Journal and not just on the paying website.
I have the paper in front of me now.
To: BunnySlippers
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posted on
08/08/2006 12:04:37 PM PDT
by
dennisw
(Confucius say man who go through turnstile sideways going to Bangkok)
To: BunnySlippers
What's the August 22nd theory?
To: BunnySlippers
Prolly be on line tomorrow in Opinion Journal. Or the day after
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posted on
08/08/2006 12:05:46 PM PDT
by
dennisw
(Confucius say man who go through turnstile sideways going to Bangkok)
To: A_perfect_lady
Basically Armedgeddon ... an appropriate time for Ahmadinejad to escalate tensions into a full scale "end of the world" scenario.
Bernard Lewis talks about talks about how Muslims do not care about "MAD" mutually assured destruction" and feel that if both sides die that they have won.
Drudge has the actual backup here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1679858/posts
To: BunnySlippers
Interesting that the paper copy included a picture of a drawing of Mohammed -- apparently drawn by a Muslim. WHere's the outrage?
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posted on
08/08/2006 12:08:47 PM PDT
by
sionnsar
(†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† | Iran Azadi | Appeasement=Suicide | Hezbo rockets carry "peaceheads")
To: dennisw
Yes, reposted on the free site a day or two later. That's the pattern.
To: BunnySlippers
Albigensian heresy.
"Kill! Kill Them All! God Will Know His Own!" ... the Archbishop of Beziers who oversaw the annihilation of the Cathars. ...
Well, we can go back to that.
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posted on
08/08/2006 12:09:41 PM PDT
by
OpusatFR
( ALEA IACTA EST. We have just crossed the Rubicon.)
Comment #15 Removed by Moderator
To: 308MBR
"ship of deluded ignorami" LOLOL
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posted on
08/08/2006 12:10:31 PM PDT
by
Veto!
(Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
To: sionnsar
Muhammad's Night Flight on Buraq!
To: BunnySlippers
Well, if this truly is their aim we are powerless. We still haven't taken the gloves off and I doubt we ever will.
To: BunnySlippers
So the theory is that Israel will get nuked on 8/22?
Or that there will be multiple nukings, including here in the US?
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posted on
08/08/2006 12:15:09 PM PDT
by
airborne
(Satan's greatest trick was convincing people he doesn't exist.)
To: dennisw
That doesn't look like the full text
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posted on
08/08/2006 12:15:23 PM PDT
by
RDTF
("We love death. The US loves life. That is the big difference between us two.” Osama Bin laden)
To: RDTF
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posted on
08/08/2006 12:15:55 PM PDT
by
dennisw
(Confucius say man who go through turnstile sideways going to Bangkok)
To: dennisw
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posted on
08/08/2006 12:18:04 PM PDT
by
aculeus
To: BunnySlippers
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posted on
08/08/2006 12:18:11 PM PDT
by
AliVeritas
(Talk to those who kill their own children, by Jihad/PR ? Remember Beslan.)
To: AliVeritas
I subscribe to the print version and the online version both.
To: Veto!
"for Shiite Muslims, the long awaited return of the Hidden Imam, ending in the final victory of the forces of good over evil, however these may be defined."
The Hollywood idiots stopped imagining the possibility of a nut in control of nukes when they made Dr. Strangelove.
Typically, the real danger of a real nut, from a part of the world that is filled with nuts, would ever get their hands on a nuke never even entered their imagination.
Too bad we don't have any creative intelligent people waking the masses up to the real threats and dangers in the world. Instead we got Al Gore.
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posted on
08/08/2006 12:28:48 PM PDT
by
Berlin_Freeper
(ETERNAL SHAME on the Treasonous and Immoral Democrats!)
To: BunnySlippers
From
Apocalyptic signals from Iran worry U.S. intelligence
The U.S. intelligence community has been trying to figure out why Ahmadinejad chose that date. Sources said the community was stumped until some Islam experts translated the Gregorian date to that of the Muslim calendar.
Then came the surprise that has the intelligence community worried.
Aug. 22 corresponds to Rajab 27 on the Muslim calendar. The date is called Lailat Al Israa, when Mohammed ascended to heaven from the Al Aqsa mosque to receive the five daily prayers. Later, Al Aqsa came to represent Jerusalem.
The Muslim commemoration is meant to be a night of struggle, accompanied by thunder and lightening, resembling the story of Moses ascending Mount Sinai to receive the Old Testament.
Ahmadinejad could be hinting to the West that he is preparing a major attack on Israel. Or, the Iranian president could be warning that unless the West caves in, he would escalate tension in the region. The lightening in Mohammed's story could represent Iranian missiles.
What is clear is that Ahmadinejad does not see himself as an Iranian leader, but a Muslim prophet, using imagery to portray himself as a messiah for both Sunni and Shi'ite Muslims.
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posted on
08/08/2006 1:15:04 PM PDT
by
FreedomNeocon
(Success is not final; Failure is not fatal; it is the courage to continue that counts -- Churchill)
To: airborne
Nah I don't think so.
Worse case is Israel nuked, but I doubt that.
Much more likely IMO are Iran announcing they
A) Withdraw from NPT and officially announce their intent to build a nuke
B) Announce they already have a nuke (or several) and tell the rest of the world 'too late'
C) Do a live underground test of a working Nuke to demonstrate they have at least 1 bomb and the capability to do more.
I doubt it would go farther than that, and would be surprised if they test. But it wouldn't be unexpected at all to me.
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posted on
08/08/2006 1:19:22 PM PDT
by
FreedomNeocon
(Success is not final; Failure is not fatal; it is the courage to continue that counts -- Churchill)
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posted on
08/08/2006 1:19:24 PM PDT
by
ELS
(Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
To: ELS
I think the west continue to delude themselves over these nuts.
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posted on
08/08/2006 1:37:59 PM PDT
by
catbertz
To: Berlin_Freeper
The Hollywood idiots stopped imagining the possibility of a nut in control of nukes when they made Dr. Strangelove...Typically, the real danger of a real nut, from a part of the world that is filled with nuts, would ever get their hands on a nuke never even entered their imagination. Profound observation, Berlin Freeper. I was just corresponding with a friend about creative imagination. A topic not fully understood.
Ironically, the best analysis of creative imagination I've ever read was a book called Creative Imagination in the Sufism of Ibn "Arabi by Henry Corbin, published by Princeton U Press/Bollingen Series, in 1969. Originally published in 1955-56 byRhein-Verlag, Zurich. Ibn al-'Arabi was a 12th century Islamic scholar (not Islamist), who imo truly understood the imaginal world. He was anything but a bloodthirsty monster.
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posted on
08/08/2006 1:44:54 PM PDT
by
Veto!
(Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
To: FreedomNeocon
To: airborne
Nothing as dramatic as a nuclear attack. 8/22 is simply another milestone in Iran's stalling game. They may make another announcement about their nuclear program, or use it as a springboard to put it off until Ramadan. One way or another, it's using religious themes to lay cover for political shenanigans. Iran's not looking to blow the world up quite yet, but they're certainly trying to use apocalyptic imagery to keep the people inflamed.
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posted on
08/08/2006 1:51:31 PM PDT
by
Steel Wolf
(- Islam will never survive being laughed at. -)
To: Steel Wolf
All bets are off. This guy WANTS to bring about the end of the world. I believe he may already have nukes. Would not surprise me at all.
Something big is coming...
To: BunnySlippers
Oh great. Something else to look forward to. August 22nd. (sigh) But thanks for the info!
To: BunnySlippers
Iran , Syria, and Hezbollah have been working in cahoots and made sure that they had everything in place before starting this war. They want to bring about the end of the world. They believe it is what their deity wants and what their prophecies state. I would not doubt that they do something on this date.
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To: BunnySlippers
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To: FreedomNeocon
The U.S. intelligence community has been trying to figure out why Ahmadinejad chose that date. Sources said the community was stumped until some Islam experts translated the Gregorian date to that of the Muslim calendar.
I am surprised that people in our 'intelligence community' can walk and chew gum at the same time if they were stumped for more than an hour on this.
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posted on
08/13/2006 7:23:06 AM PDT
by
dmartin
(Who Dares Wins)
To: MNJohnnie
And the oil prices would make look current ones like very low.
To: ARridgerunner; BunnySlippers; Dallas59; dennisw; FreedomNeocon; silentknight
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posted on
08/17/2006 3:23:03 PM PDT
by
Allan
(*-O)):~{>)
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