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The Democrat Party -- 1828* - 2006 -- R.I.P.
Special to FreeRepublic ^ | 9 August 2006 | John Armor (Congressman Billybob)

Posted on 08/09/2006 10:40:08 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob

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To: Sam Cree
"I guess you could say the Bushes, the Romneys and other Republicans are blue bloods, but the Dems have their own share of 'em, the Kerrys and the Kennedys come to mind right away."
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I agree. By "blue bloods" I mean those that seem to think they "know what's best for us". One of my greatest frustrations with the PUBS today is how willing they are to fore go individual freedom and empowerment. Issues that would have empowered the individual such as vouchers went out the window in favor of more govt. regulations and bueracracy. Social Security reform was discussed, but never fought for. Campaign finance reform was passed and now there are on going discussions about how to regulate the internet. Prescription drugs one more step down the road to having the govt. run all health care.
61 posted on 08/11/2006 11:19:27 AM PDT by wmfights (Lead, Follow, or Get Out Of The WAY!)
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To: wmfights
"One of my greatest frustrations with the PUBS today is how willing they are to fore go individual freedom..."

Yes, I agree absolutely. Individual freedom is the essence of our whole tradition, it's what we cherish most, or used to, I should say. No one takes it very seriously anymore, it seems.

Between CFR, Kelo, and an activist interpretation of the commerce clause, we seem to have lost more rights under Republican stewardship than Clinton ever dreamed of taking from us.

62 posted on 08/11/2006 11:35:29 AM PDT by Sam Cree (Don't mix alcopops and ufo's)
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To: Sam Cree
"Between CFR, Kelo, and an activist interpretation of the commerce clause, we seem to have lost more rights under Republican stewardship than Clinton ever dreamed of taking from us."
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I won't vote for RATS because they truly are unamerican, but I'm not buying into the "vote for us because the other guys are so bad" anymore either. I direct campaign contributions directly to conservative candidates and organizations like "The Club for Growth". I'm doing everything I can to change the PUBS through the primaries. Failing that, I will not vote.

The Pubs aren't in trouble because of the RATS. They're in trouble because they haven't shown themselves to be deserving of power.
63 posted on 08/11/2006 11:42:35 AM PDT by wmfights (Lead, Follow, or Get Out Of The WAY!)
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To: wmfights

I vote for Repubs because the alternative, Dems, is unthinkable. But I ain't happy about it.


64 posted on 08/11/2006 12:18:07 PM PDT by Sam Cree (Don't mix alcopops and ufo's)
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To: Clemenza

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/files/elections/2006/by_county/CT_Page_0808.html?SITE=CTHARELN&SECTION=POLITICS

West Haven...61/39 for Lieberman
New Britain... 52/48 for Lieberman
New London...50/50 for Lamont (2 vote win)
Middletown...45/56 for Lamont (a collegetown, not blue collar)
Meriden...48/52 for Lamont

Lamont's best showing...
Cornwall
Canaan
Salisbury
Lyme
Sharon
Warren
Mansfield
Roxbury
Sherman
Essex

Lieberman's Best...
East Haven
Derby
Ansonia
Beacon Falls
West Haven
Naugatuck
Orange
Waterbury
Thomaston
Wolcott

By my calculations, the average per-household income in

Lieberman towns was $71,008
Lamont towns was $90,994

>>> Lamont was elected by the elitists, not the blue-collar


65 posted on 08/11/2006 12:20:16 PM PDT by kidd
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To: kidd
Yes, but in general elections, the "elitist" towns vote Republican (Westport being the obvious exception), while the trashy, er, blue collar towns vote Democratic.

The fact that the left-side-of-the-income-curve Dems voted for Lieberman does not change the fact that in competative general elections, the white collar towns go GOP, while the schlub towns go Dem.

Also keep in mind that Liberalman got the black vote by a considerable margin.

So no, the fat lunchpail types are not "conservative" unless it means confirming their public sector and/or union jobs.

Lamont and Liberalman: not a dime's difference in anything but rhetoric.

66 posted on 08/11/2006 12:42:49 PM PDT by Clemenza (Need new tagline)
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To: Sam Cree
"I vote for Repubs because the alternative, Dems, is unthinkable. But I ain't happy about it."
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I've been where your at. I think I'm getting ready to move on and just not vote if it's not a conservative.
67 posted on 08/11/2006 1:13:06 PM PDT by wmfights (Lead, Follow, or Get Out Of The WAY!)
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To: Clemenza
"while the trashy, er, blue collar towns vote Democratic."

In my view, that's changing, to some extent. For instance, after Bush was elected over Kerry, complaints were heard from the blue staters along the lines of this, "hey! we're the ones with all the money, how come those red staters are running the country now?"

There are alot of pretty elite towns that go Dem. Charlottesville, VA for one, Manhattan for another. 'Course, I don't know Connecticut too well.

The very wealthiest folk of all seem to be over on the Left.

68 posted on 08/11/2006 1:45:36 PM PDT by Sam Cree (Don't mix alcopops and ufo's)
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To: Sam Cree

"The very wealthiest folk of all seem to be over on the Left."
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The easiest way to keep people in their place is to have the govt. help them.


69 posted on 08/11/2006 3:04:20 PM PDT by wmfights (Lead, Follow, or Get Out Of The WAY!)
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To: Congressman Billybob
I don't lament the loss of Lieberman or (especially) of the Democrat party. It should have been outlawed after the Civil War.

I think a country dominated by Republicans and Prohibitionists would be a nice place to live!

70 posted on 08/11/2006 3:10:10 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (HaGedolim tzerikhim limshol--`AKHSHAYV!)
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To: Sam Cree
The very wealthiest folk of all seem to be over on the Left.

Leftism is powered by envy. In the case of the rich it's all about envy-deflection. "Look everybody, I'm one of the GOOD rich, so let me keep my wealth and instead tax those greedy working doctors and the greedy lawyers that sue them!"

If only we could treat envy and the related disorder narcissism en masse we could greatly reduce the amount of evil in the world.

71 posted on 08/11/2006 3:53:30 PM PDT by Reeses
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To: Sam Cree
Wrong. Check election returns. College towns and welfare burgs tend to go left, along with the urban metrosexuals. The only place where lower class (White) people vote GOP is in areas with zero union influence.

The Republicans are the party of the normal middle class (professionals, entrepreneurs/businesspeople, etc) and the normal rich. The Dems are the party of the nutty rich, the professorial class, gubmint employees and the welfare class, to say nothing of braindead yooonyun members.

Besides, do you really want to be identified with either Metros OR beer-bellied uneducated losers?

This "low class populist" mythos has got to be killed.

72 posted on 08/11/2006 10:34:36 PM PDT by Clemenza (Need new tagline)
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To: staytrue
I like filthy rich people.

Indeed. In fact, even at my advancing age....I still harbor a belief that I can join their ranks....at least to a comfortable degree....and I will continue to labor in that direction. The effort itself gives me pleasure.

73 posted on 08/13/2006 7:38:54 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: Congressman Billybob
A truly great anaylsis! Thanks! I believe you are right and hope that the RATs are dying in their smelly dens.

I met a RAT Party recruiter yesterday and asked him about why his candidate for re-election to Congress voted against the Patriot Act. He said that the Act is trash. He then went on to ridicule Bush and the Iraq war as "based upon lies." It was the usual RAT rant, baseless and loud. I did not lose my temper, but left him with my definitive statement that all liberals are insane.

Oh, and I liked your quote from Marcus Aurelius so much I immediately used parts of it below.

74 posted on 08/13/2006 10:09:06 AM PDT by Paulus Invictus (Avoid joining the ranks of the insane--VOTE Republican!)
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To: Tallguy
He'd probably like to go down in history as the "Last Democrat President."

And it's a good possibility that he may.

OTOH, if there is another one, and she is something on the order of Shrillery, or some barking moonbat type, also a distinct possibility, who "cuts and runs" and then we get a major attack here at home, that will surely put the final nail in the coffin of the Democratic party. Hope it doesn't take that though.

75 posted on 08/13/2006 10:32:38 AM PDT by El Gato
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To: Congressman Billybob

I have a place or two I'd like to use this, with your permission.


76 posted on 08/15/2006 12:37:34 AM PDT by 4woodenboats (The GOP was created by those opposed to Southern Democrat Plantation Slavery...)
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To: 4woodenboats
Yes, of course. You have my permission. Just tell me where it's used, spell my name right, and preserve the e-mail link back to me at the end.

John / Billybob
77 posted on 08/15/2006 1:51:52 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob (Have a look-see. Please get involved.)
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To: Congressman Billybob
If the Democrats die out, what is the name of the new political party to replace them?

The Progressives?


78 posted on 08/15/2006 2:17:22 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican (Everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
I've never known any nation to so embrace defeat and surrender as such a positive good as that bunch. Even if somebody is against the war, do they have to make the possibility of surrender such a joyful event? Surely this mindset is way off on the margin.

Well, they've got their share of role models.

79 posted on 08/15/2006 2:20:09 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: staytrue
I like GH bush, GW bush, Arnold, Fred Thompson, Mitt Romney, Bill Frist, Pete Dupont, Steve Forbes, Tiger Woods, Charles Barkely, the late John Heinz, Pete DuPont, etc.

The Kennedys I can do without along with the Hollywood rich, but mostly the rich are the cream of our society.

*Snerk*

Most of those are a who's who of RINOs or ineffectual, cowering conservatives.

(...John Heinz really persuaded Teresa of conservative values, didn't he?)

Cheers!

80 posted on 08/19/2006 8:00:24 AM PDT by grey_whiskers
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