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Pro-life advocates are decrying a grisly new outrage
Salem Radio Network News ^ | 08/09/06 | Michael Harrington

Posted on 08/09/2006 12:19:59 PM PDT by .30Carbine

Transcription from radio/internet broadcast:

Pro-life advocates are decrying a grisly new outrage in Europe: Face lifts and cosmetic surgery using tissue from aborted babies are being offered at clinics in places such as Moscow and Rotterdam, and women from around the globe are flocking. In many cases women in third world nations are being paid up to $200.00 US to carry babies up to 12 weeks of pregnancy, when the unborn children are aborted and sold to the cosmetic clinics. An increasing number of these facilities are now springing up in popular vacation spots including Barbados and the Dominican Republic where regulation is spotty at best. Michael Harrington, SRN News.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortion; abortionindustry; abortionmills; aimia; barbados; civilrights; cosmesticfetaltissue; cosmetics; cultureofdeath; deathindustry; dominicanrepublic; doublestandard; dr; eugenics; eussr; geneticcannibalism; humanrights; moscow; petamia; plasticsurgery; prolife; thirdworld; ukraine; women
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To: .30Carbine

Why would anyone think that those who condoned nurder for convenience would not condone murder for profit and vanity? Damn right there's an outrage by pro-life advocates.


101 posted on 08/09/2006 4:38:27 PM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: DaveTesla
You think all sin is equal?

...with the exception of blashemy, according to Scripture. That is the only one unforgivable. I don't think anybody has settled on what the exact application of that means.

I don't know if the article is true, and really don't care. (Didn't I already state that.) It makes no difference to me, when taken in the context of my posts. You are ranting and raving like a lunatic. I would suggest you see a doc for some meds. Lithium may help! Or, you may want to start reading the rest of your Bible. Start with Genesis 1:1, and get back to me when you find the Gospels, and Paul's writings.

102 posted on 08/09/2006 4:38:49 PM PDT by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: pageonetoo
If I am a zealot about paying Russian women to carry and
abort children for such despicable acts then so
be it.

I LOVE GOD that much.

Was Jesus a zealot when he whipped people and turned over
their tables in the temple?

Please reply to the question:
Is the story true?
103 posted on 08/09/2006 4:41:16 PM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: DaveTesla
Get help!
104 posted on 08/09/2006 4:43:09 PM PDT by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: DaveTesla
Romans 2: 1 You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge the other, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things. 2 Now we know that God's judgment against those who do such things is based on truth. 3 So when you, a mere man, pass judgment on them and yet do the same things, do you think you will escape God's judgment? 4 Or do you show contempt for the riches of his kindness, tolerance and patience, not realizing that God's kindness leads you toward repentance?

5 But because of your stubbornness and your unrepentant heart, you are storing up wrath against yourself for the day of God's wrath, when his righteous judgment will be revealed. 6 God “will give to each person according to what he has done.”* 7 To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life. 8 But for those who are self‑seeking and who reject the truth and follow evil, there will be wrath and anger. 9 There will be trouble and distress for every human being who does evil: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile; 10 but glory, honor and peace for everyone who does good: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile. 11 For God does not show favoritism.

12 All who sin apart from the law will also perish apart from the law, and all who sin under the law will be judged by the law. 13 For it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in God's sight, but it is those who obey the law who will be declared righteous. 14 (Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law, 15 since they show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts now accusing, now even defending them.) 16 This will take place on the day when God will judge men's secrets through Jesus Christ, as my gospel declares...

105 posted on 08/09/2006 4:46:25 PM PDT by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: .30Carbine
When we were in Jr. High, we read Jonathan Swift's A Modest Proposal. Despite writing as a satirist, he horrified many of his contemporaries with even a fictional suggestion that the Irish resort to the cannibalism of their children to allieviate food shortages.

I suppose that almost 300 years later, the idea that babies should be killed to give Bambi a facelift is passe'.
106 posted on 08/09/2006 4:49:28 PM PDT by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.org - Forging a Rebirth of Freedom.)
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To: pageonetoo

Your wrong.

Mark 3:22-30 states,

"And the scribes who came down from Jerusalem said, 'He has Beelzebub,' and, 'By the ruler of the demons He casts out demons.' ...'Assuredly, I [Jesus] say to you, all sins will be forgiven the sons of men, and whatever blasphemies they may utter; but he who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is subject to eternal condemnation;' because they said, 'He has an unclean spirit'"




It is unequivocally clear that the one unforgivable sin is permanently rejecting Christ (John 3:18; 3:36). Thus, speaking against the Holy Spirit is equivalent to rejecting Christ with such finality that no future repentance is possible. 'My spirit shall not always strive with man,' God said long ago (Genesis 6:3). ...In the context of this particular passage (Matthew 12:22-32), Jesus had performed a great miracle of creation, involving both healing and casting out a demon, but the Pharisees rejected this clear witness of the Holy Spirit. Instead they attributed His powers to Satan, thus demonstrating an attitude permanently resistant to the Spirit, and to the deity and saving Gospel of Christ"


107 posted on 08/09/2006 4:52:04 PM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: DaveTesla
Romans 2:17 Now you, if you call yourself a Jew; if you rely on the law and brag about your relationship to God; 18 if you know his will and approve of what is superior because you are instructed by the law; 19 if you are convinced that you are a guide for the blind, a light for those who are in the dark, 20 an instructor of the foolish, a teacher of infants, because you have in the law the embodiment of knowledge and truth– 21 you, then, who teach others, do you not teach yourself? You who preach against stealing, do you steal? 22 You who say that people should not commit adultery, do you commit adultery? You who abhor idols, do you rob temples? 23 You who brag about the law, do you dishonor God by breaking the law? 24 As it is written: “God's name is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you.”*

25 Circumcision has value if you observe the law, but if you break the law, you have become as though you had not been circumcised. 26 If those who are not circumcised keep the law's requirements, will they not be regarded as though they were circumcised? 27 The one who is not circumcised physically and yet obeys the law will condemn you who, even though you have the* written code and circumcision, are a lawbreaker.

28 A man is not a Jew if he is only one outwardly, nor is circumcision merely outward and physical. 29 No, a man is a Jew if he is one inwardly; and circumcision is circumcision of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the written code. Such a man's praise is not from men, but from God.

108 posted on 08/09/2006 4:52:49 PM PDT by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: DaveTesla

Romans 11:17 Now you, if you call yourself a Jew; if you rely on the law and brag about your relationship to God; 18 if you know his will and approve of what is superior because you are instructed by the law; 19 if you are convinced that you are a guide for the blind, a light for those who are in the dark, 20 an instructor of the foolish, a teacher of infants, because you have in the law the embodiment of knowledge and truth– 21 you, then, who teach others, do you not teach yourself? You who preach against stealing, do you steal? 22 You who say that people should not commit adultery, do you commit adultery? You who abhor idols, do you rob temples? 23 You who brag about the law, do you dishonor God by breaking the law? 24 As it is written: “God's name is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you.”*

25 Circumcision has value if you observe the law, but if you break the law, you have become as though you had not been circumcised. 26 If those who are not circumcised keep the law's requirements, will they not be regarded as though they were circumcised? 27 The one who is not circumcised physically and yet obeys the law will condemn you who, even though you have the* written code and circumcision, are a lawbreaker.

28 A man is not a Jew if he is only one outwardly, nor is circumcision merely outward and physical. 29 No, a man is a Jew if he is one inwardly; and circumcision is circumcision of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the written code. Such a man's praise is not from men, but from God.


109 posted on 08/09/2006 4:53:33 PM PDT by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: pageonetoo
Get a life.

Your an apologist for these evil deeds.
110 posted on 08/09/2006 4:53:57 PM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: DaveTesla
On sever threads you called these stories lies and propaganda.

Turns out your dead wrong.

Now you try to hide the lie behind scripture??

You sound just like Satan.
111 posted on 08/09/2006 4:57:11 PM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: DaveTesla

It is unequivocally clear...



Romans 14:1 Accept him whose faith is weak, without passing judgment on disputable matters. 2 One man's faith allows him to eat everything, but another man, whose faith is weak, eats only vegetables. 3 The man who eats everything must not look down on him who does not, and the man who does not eat everything must not condemn the man who does, for God has accepted him. 4 Who are you to judge someone else's servant? To his own master he stands or falls. And he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand.

5 One man considers one day more sacred than another; another man considers every day alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. 6 He who regards one day as special, does so to the Lord. He who eats meat, eats to the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who abstains, does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God. 7 For none of us lives to himself alone and none of us dies to himself alone. 8 If we live, we live to the Lord; and if we die, we die to the Lord. So, whether we live or die, we belong to the Lord.

9 For this very reason, Christ died and returned to life so that he might be the Lord of both the dead and the living. 10 You, then, why do you judge your brother? Or why do you look down on your brother? For we will all stand before God's judgment seat. 11 It is written:



“ ‘As surely as I live,’ says the Lord,

‘every knee will bow before me;

every tongue will confess to God.’ ”*



12 So then, each of us will give an account of himself to God.

13 Therefore let us stop passing judgment on one another. Instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling block or obstacle in your brother's way. 14 As one who is in the Lord Jesus, I am fully convinced that no food* is unclean in itself. But if anyone regards something as unclean, then for him it is unclean. 15 If your brother is distressed because of what you eat, you are no longer acting in love. Do not by your eating destroy your brother for whom Christ died. 16 Do not allow what you consider good to be spoken of as evil. 17 For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking, but of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit, 18 because anyone who serves Christ in this way is pleasing to God and approved by men.

19 Let us therefore make every effort to do what leads to peace and to mutual edification. 20 Do not destroy the work of God for the sake of food. All food is clean, but it is wrong for a man to eat anything that causes someone else to stumble. 21 It is better not to eat meat or drink wine or to do anything else that will cause your brother to fall.

22 So whatever you believe about these things keep between yourself and God. Blessed is the man who does not condemn himself by what he approves. 23 But the man who has doubts is condemned if he eats, because his eating is not from faith; and everything that does not come from faith is sin.


112 posted on 08/09/2006 4:57:39 PM PDT by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: pageonetoo
I am not the one whom needs help.

You called these acts a lie and propaganda.

You have all indignation for me PROVING their not
and have not uttered ONE word in indignation about the evil
acts themselves.

Your evil.
113 posted on 08/09/2006 5:02:05 PM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: .30Carbine

If the parallel between abortion itself and slavery are not clear enough for the average idiot, maybe THIS will be.


114 posted on 08/09/2006 5:07:31 PM PDT by Lexinom
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To: DaveTesla

Galatians 4

1 What I am saying is that as long as the heir is a child, he is no different from a slave, although he owns the whole estate. 2 He is subject to guardians and trustees until the time set by his father. 3 So also, when we were children, we were in slavery under the basic principles of the world. 4 But when the time had fully come, God sent his Son, born of a woman, born under law, 5 to redeem those under law, that we might receive the full rights of sons. 6 Because you are sons, God sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, the Spirit who calls out, “Abba,* Father.” 7 So you are no longer a slave, but a son; and since you are a son, God has made you also an heir.

Paul's Concern for the Galatians

8 Formerly, when you did not know God, you were slaves to those who by nature are not gods. 9 But now that you know God–or rather are known by God–how is it that you are turning back to those weak and miserable principles? Do you wish to be enslaved by them all over again? 10 You are observing special days and months and seasons and years! 11 I fear for you, that somehow I have wasted my efforts on you.

12 I plead with you, brothers, become like me, for I became like you. You have done me no wrong. 13 As you know, it was because of an illness that I first preached the gospel to you. 14 Even though my illness was a trial to you, you did not treat me with contempt or scorn. Instead, you welcomed me as if I were an angel of God, as if I were Christ Jesus himself. 15 What has happened to all your joy? I can testify that, if you could have done so, you would have torn out your eyes and given them to me. 16 Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth?

17 Those people are zealous to win you over, but for no good. What they want is to alienate you from us, so that you may be zealous for them. 18 It is fine to be zealous, provided the purpose is good, and to be so always and not just when I am with you. 19 My dear children, for whom I am again in the pains of childbirth until Christ is formed in you, 20 how I wish I could be with you now and change my tone, because I am perplexed about you!

Hagar and Sarah

21 Tell me, you who want to be under the law, are you not aware of what the law says? 22 For it is written that Abraham had two sons, one by the slave woman and the other by the free woman. 23 His son by the slave woman was born in the ordinary way; but his son by the free woman was born as the result of a promise.

24 These things may be taken figuratively, for the women represent two covenants. One covenant is from Mount Sinai and bears children who are to be slaves: This is Hagar. 25 Now Hagar stands for Mount Sinai in Arabia and corresponds to the present city of Jerusalem, because she is in slavery with her children. 26 But the Jerusalem that is above is free, and she is our mother. 27 For it is written:



“Be glad, O barren woman,

who bears no children;

break forth and cry aloud,

you who have no labor pains;

because more are the children of the desolate woman

than of her who has a husband.”*



28 Now you, brothers, like Isaac, are children of promise. 29 At that time the son born in the ordinary way persecuted the son born by the power of the Spirit. It is the same now. 30 But what does the Scripture say? “Get rid of the slave woman and her son, for the slave woman's son will never share in the inheritance with the free woman's son.”* 31 Therefore, brothers, we are not children of the slave woman, but of the free woman.


115 posted on 08/09/2006 5:10:03 PM PDT by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: pageonetoo
Who is passing judgment on each other?

What you cannot comprehend is it is the act it self.

Show me where we should love the worst of sin.

Get behind me Satan.
116 posted on 08/09/2006 5:11:06 PM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: DaveTesla
You call me evil? I guess Scripture must be evil.

Yes, you are cresting propaganda. You are not spreading the Good News (Gospel) of Jeus Christ. You are simply pointing to the sins of sinners, duh!

117 posted on 08/09/2006 5:16:08 PM PDT by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: pageonetoo
Your like Satan himself.

Using scripture to to try and convince others
to ba ashamed to speak up against EVIL.


Satin do quote scripture.
And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone. 7Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God. 8Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and showeth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them; 9And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me. 10Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve. 11Then the devil leaveth him, and, behold, angels came and ministered unto him.
118 posted on 08/09/2006 5:17:22 PM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: cpforlife.org; Coleus

Horrific. Signs of the times...

119 posted on 08/09/2006 5:19:35 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: pageonetoo
Doesn't Satan hate when his murderous deeds come out of the darkness???

Show me where this article is a LIE...
120 posted on 08/09/2006 5:20:43 PM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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