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To: pageonetoo; .30Carbine is thought that women in the former Soviet republic are being paid £100 a time to persuade them to have abortions.

"I t'ot I saw a puddy tat!"

While we all agree that abortion is wrong, it is also just as wrong to use false "propaganda" to define yourself. Especially, when the information you use is tainted with error and speculation. It defeats your purpose, when your credibility is shot.

There is an old adage, that let's more people know about the contents of a womb. As people become more familiar with the developing baby, they get less willing to murder it...

"a picture is worth a thousand words..."

48 posted on 08/09/2006 1:11:18 PM PDT by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: pageonetoo
Please read this article:

Doctors Seek Asylum After Exposing Ukraine Abortion for Cosmetics Scandal

By Gudrun Schultz

DUBLIN, Ireland, March 29, 2006 ( - Two Ukraininan doctors, Vadym Lazaryev and Vladymyr Ishchenko, have been seeking asylum in Ireland since 2004, after they were forced to flee their country for exposing appalling human rights abuses of women and unborn children in the Ukraine.

The doctors were part of a group working to uncover a macabre system of medical trafficking in the bodies of unborn babies, European Life Network reported today. Doctors were deceiving women into aborting their babies for false "medical" reasons, and then selling the bodies of the children. The children would be aborted live, and their bodies cut into separate organs. In some cases live dissection took place.

Most of the body parts were apparently sold to the burgeoning cosmetic industry of "foetal tissue" youth-enhancing treatments, as well as quack "medical therapies."

In many cases, women were paid to get pregnant and to deliver the baby at a given gestation. They were paid a higher price for carrying the child closer to term, since abortion is illegal in the Ukraine after 12 weeks gestation.

In September 2005 the rapporteur of the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe, issued a report on the disappearance of newborn babies in the Ukraine. Ruth-Gaby Vermot-Mangold called for an immediate re-opening of judicial investigations into allegations of trafficking of babies for adoption and of aborted or premature babies for "scientific" purposes, after visiting the Ukraine August 29-Sept. 1, 2005.

She obtained detailed information on four cases during her visit, reported the Council of Europe Press. In one instance, the family of the missing child had been told by doctors that their baby had died but had not been given permission to see or bury the baby.

Doctors Vadym Lazaryev and Vladymyr Ischenko had full police participation in their investigation, but when the investigation revealed government sanction of the trafficking and the involvement of prominent doctors, they were advised to stop. The police told them they could not guarantee their safety. After an attempt was made on their lives, they fled the country to Ireland, leaving behind their families. A documentary on the expose was screened in the Ukraine after they had left.

They are now seeking permanent asylum in Ireland for themselves and their families. Both have children-Dr. Vladymyr Ischenko has not seen his first children, twins who were born six months after he fled the Ukraine.

After four intensive interviews over fifteen months, they were denied refuge in January. Their appeal will be heard in Dublin tomorrow, March 30. It could take up to a year for the outcome to be known. They are asking for support and prayers for a satisfactory and speedy outcome.

61 posted on 08/09/2006 1:35:46 PM PDT by .30Carbine
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To: pageonetoo
"false "propaganda"

Do your Home Work!

Why are you posting this all over these threads when the story is true.

You quote the Lord but are try to convince others that
this abomination is not happening.
That makes you complacent.

Here you can call and make an appointment for your self:
For the Phone number:
From their web site:

Another successful use of Fetal Stem Cells is in the field of anti-aging (rejuvenation/longevity).

I Have about 4 more if you like.
82 posted on 08/09/2006 3:05:08 PM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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