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Judge denies jury anonymity for man accused of funding Hamas(... They're Here !!!!!!!!!)
The State/Chicago Tribune ^ | Wed, Aug. 09, 2006 | Rudolph Bush

Posted on 08/10/2006 3:49:02 AM PDT by IrishMike

CHICAGO - A federal judge Wednesday denied prosecutors' request to seat an anonymous jury in the trial of a Bridgeview, Ill., man charged with funneling money to the Palestinian terrorist group Hamas.

U.S. District Judge Amy St. Eve ruled that prosecutors failed to show Muhammad Salah and his co-defendant Abdelhaleem Ashqar, of Virginia, are likely to intimidate or harass jurors.

"(T)he mere invocation of the word `terrorism,' without more, is insufficient to warrant such an anonymous jury," St. Eve wrote in a ruling released Wednesday.

Salah's attorney, Michael Deutsch, called the ruling a small but significant step toward a fair trial.

"Just because the government invokes the word `terrorism' doesn't mean they are terrorists," he said.

Deutsch argued that jurors would be unfairly prejudiced against Salah if they knew their names and backgrounds were being kept secret.

"It creates the impression in them that there is some danger associated with the defendants," he said.

In her ruling, St. Eve noted that prosecutors acknowledged Salah and Ashqar aren't dangers to their community at the men's bond hearings.

While St. Eve ruled the identity of jurors won't be kept secret from the defense or prosecution, she suggested she may place their names under seal.

That likely would prevent the public and press from learning jurors' identities.

Salah's attorneys first suggested the possibility of releasing jurors' names to the defense and prosecution but keeping them under seal.

(Excerpt) Read more at thestate.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bush; enabler; globaljihad; gramsci; hamas; hezbollah; hizbollah; moneytrail; sympathizer; terror; terrorfunding; terrorism; terrorists; terrortrials; war; waronterror; wot

1 posted on 08/10/2006 3:49:05 AM PDT by IrishMike
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To: IrishMike

Maybe we should change their title of "Terrorist" to something more PC. Any suggestions?

Allah Travel Agents


2 posted on 08/10/2006 3:54:09 AM PDT by flynmudd (Proud Navy Mom to OSSR Richard T. Blalock-USS Ramage)
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To: flynmudd
Any suggestions?

I like 'dead men walking'.

L

3 posted on 08/10/2006 3:54:52 AM PDT by Lurker (I support Israel without reservation. Hizbollah must be destroyed to the last man.)
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To: flynmudd

Naughty people?


4 posted on 08/10/2006 3:56:02 AM PDT by battlegearboat
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To: IrishMike
"It creates the impression in them that there is some danger associated with the defendants," he said.

bwahaha! i suppose they were arrested because no one associated danger with them! what morons lawyers are!

5 posted on 08/10/2006 3:56:51 AM PDT by wildwood
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To: IrishMike

Danger if any would unlikely be with the gentlemen on trial, but would likely be with their friends.


6 posted on 08/10/2006 3:57:57 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: flynmudd

Maybe we should change their title of "Terrorist" to something more PC. Any suggestions?
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Watching the feeds on the Englant plane plot..
The BBC is actually using the word 'terrorists' !!!!

We don't have to change what we call these scumbags.


7 posted on 08/10/2006 4:00:15 AM PDT by IrishMike (Democrats .... Stuck on Stupid, RINO's ...the most vicious judas goats)
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To: IrishMike

Did 'turban durbin'have anything to do with this?Illinois politics seem to provide a perfect place for our enemy.Who would want to serve on a jury there?


8 posted on 08/10/2006 4:01:30 AM PDT by chrismich2610 (murha to run with hugo chavez)
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To: IrishMike

Spell check Mike,
use the spell check
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ENGLAND

To self, thanks for the late reminder.


9 posted on 08/10/2006 4:02:30 AM PDT by IrishMike (Democrats .... Stuck on Stupid, RINO's ...the most vicious judas goats)
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To: chrismich2610

Nasrallah's Men Inside America
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14208386/
Aug. 14, 2006 issue - It began, as the Feds tell the tale, with a run-of-the-mill tax-fraud scheme. Imad Hammoud and his ring of Lebanese Americans from the Detroit area would buy boxes of cigarettes in North Carolina, where the state tax on smokes is among the lowest in the country, allegedly truck the goods back to Michigan and sell them at a profit of more than $10 a carton. Hammoud, an immigrant with ties to Hizbullah, according to an indictment filed with a U.S. district court in Michigan earlier this year, would then wire a portion of the earnings to a member of the group in Lebanon. By 2002, Hammoud and some of his colleagues were believed to be running $500,000 worth of cigarettes a week across state lines and expanding into stolen contraband and counterfeit goods, including Viagra tablets. During a three-month period that year, authorities allege, more than 90,000 Viagra knockoffs were purchased, with a plan to sell them as the real thing. "They're small, they're high in demand and they're easily transportable," says Bob Clifford, a senior FBI agent. "They're the perfect medium."


10 posted on 08/10/2006 4:07:25 AM PDT by IrishMike (Democrats .... Stuck on Stupid, RINO's ...the most vicious judas goats)
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To: flynmudd

Molecular Redistribution Experts.


11 posted on 08/10/2006 4:13:10 AM PDT by loboinok (Gun control is, hitting what you aim at!)
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To: IrishMike
St. Eve, Amy J.

"Born 1965 in Belleville, IL

Federal Judicial Service: Judge, U. S. District Court, Northern District of Illinois Nominated by George W. Bush on March 21, 2002, to a seat vacated by George W. Lindberg; Confirmed by the Senate on August 1, 2002, and received commission on August 2, 2002. "

12 posted on 08/10/2006 4:13:32 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: loboinok

That sounds like a democrat social program.


13 posted on 08/10/2006 4:17:08 AM PDT by flynmudd (Proud Navy Mom to OSSR Richard T. Blalock-USS Ramage)
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To: IrishMike
"Deutsch argued that jurors would be unfairly prejudiced against Salah if they knew their names and backgrounds were being kept secret."

Ah, I see. They could be unfairly prejudiced by this knowledge, but the possibility of threats against their lives and families is something we trust they will ignore?

Only a lawyer can so strain at a gnat while ignoring the camel it rode in on.

14 posted on 08/10/2006 4:18:34 AM PDT by NicknamedBob (That is the trouble with essences. They are essentially troublesome.)
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To: flynmudd
How about "EGYPTIAN STUDENTS"?

While we're at it, let's rename the INS gov't workers who let them in here MORONS IDIOTS AND COWARDS.
15 posted on 08/10/2006 4:19:10 AM PDT by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: ishabibble

Maybe it's time for this country to WAKE UP! For those out there that don't believe that these people want to destroy all of us in this country, go Cheney yourself. You are not only deceiving yourself but putting the rest of us in mortal danger in your utter stupidity.

It's way past time for us to call a spade a spade. It's time for profiling and if you are offended, too bad. What's worse, being offended or dead?


16 posted on 08/10/2006 4:25:24 AM PDT by flynmudd (Proud Navy Mom to OSSR Richard T. Blalock-USS Ramage)
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To: flynmudd

Its time to pull a Roosevelt and round up these folks and give them a free vacation in Arizona or somewhere that we canb keep an eye on them.


17 posted on 08/10/2006 4:30:21 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: sgtbono2002

That will never happen again. The ACLU will get us all killed. They always put a chokehold on the majority for the feelings of one.


18 posted on 08/10/2006 4:32:32 AM PDT by flynmudd (Proud Navy Mom to OSSR Richard T. Blalock-USS Ramage)
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To: flynmudd

Religion of Piece Activists. Get it - Piece. Man I'm on a roll this morning.


19 posted on 08/10/2006 4:35:34 AM PDT by Rays_Dad
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To: IrishMike
Deport Muslims Now! No camps -- just deport! Raze ALL mosques. Do it now!

20 posted on 08/10/2006 4:36:49 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: IrishMike
A federal judge Wednesday denied prosecutors' request to seat an anonymous jury in the trial

Good ruling idiot prosecutors. Just my humble opinon.

21 posted on 08/10/2006 4:37:25 AM PDT by thiscouldbemoreconfusing
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Very brave position for you to take from behind the saftey of a screen name, locked front door, and on line.

And who would you suggest carry out your brave dream?

22 posted on 08/10/2006 4:39:26 AM PDT by thiscouldbemoreconfusing
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To: flynmudd
Any suggestions?

'Non-Muslim Discombobulation Club'?

23 posted on 08/10/2006 4:40:47 AM PDT by Edit35
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To: sgtbono2002
Its time to pull a Roosevelt and round up these folks and give them a free vacation in Arizona or somewhere that we canb keep an eye on them.

That anywhere would preclude your town or city wouldn't it?

24 posted on 08/10/2006 4:40:50 AM PDT by thiscouldbemoreconfusing
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To: thiscouldbemoreconfusing

Are you asking for volunteers? I'll be the first in line to drive the D9 into the totalitarian government headquarters which some call mosques.


25 posted on 08/10/2006 4:41:57 AM PDT by gotribe (It's not a religion.)
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To: thiscouldbemoreconfusing

LOL. You don't know me. I openly tell people this. I fear no one, because I am ready to die for what I believe -- just like they are. What's your next comment?


26 posted on 08/10/2006 4:42:05 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: ishabibble
While we're at it, let's rename the INS gov't workers who let them in here MORONS IDIOTS AND COWARDS.

No, how about we name the idiots that keep sending the same political hacks back to office "MORONS IDIOTS AND COWARDS"

27 posted on 08/10/2006 4:43:42 AM PDT by thiscouldbemoreconfusing
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Deport Muslims Now! No camps -- just deport! Raze ALL mosques. Do it now!
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That is sounding more and more like a good idea.


28 posted on 08/10/2006 4:49:01 AM PDT by IrishMike (Democrats .... Stuck on Stupid, RINO's ...the most vicious judas goats)
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29 posted on 08/10/2006 4:53:45 AM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do!)
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To: flynmudd

Muzzy Wuzzy? Bombsy Womsy?


30 posted on 08/10/2006 5:15:12 AM PDT by Dionysius
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To: thiscouldbemoreconfusing

If I had my choice it would be in the dry Tortugas.


31 posted on 08/10/2006 5:17:57 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: thiscouldbemoreconfusing

If they put them close to me , Babs Mukulski would be there pulling a Monica on each and every one of them.


32 posted on 08/10/2006 5:18:54 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Exactly


33 posted on 08/10/2006 5:19:39 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: IrishMike
"It creates the impression in them that there is some danger associated with the defendants," he said.

"Hey, Stupidass Judge!!! If you're the perps, and you're funding Hamas (A Terroist Org) I don't want you to know I'm the one that put you behind bars, ok?" "BTW, I can't do jury duty, I'll be away for the rest of my life!"

34 posted on 08/10/2006 5:22:40 AM PDT by sirchtruth (No one has the RIGHT not to be offended...)
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To: NicknamedBob

Anybody think to ask the jurors how they feel about this? Maybe it is unfair to ask average american citizens to sit on a jury of this sort. See, if I am being tried, I have a right to a jury of my peers. But there is some reflexivity in that I am also a peer of my jury. No way is any man who is funnelling money to terrorist organizations a peer of any jury I'd be on. The fact that anonymity is being considered should trigger the thought that this case is orders of magnitude a different category than that which our English/American legal tradition is able to cope with.
New legal procedures will be needed to be developed to deal with the enemies we have blindly let into this country. If this guy has done what they allege, he should be declared an enemy combatant and sent to Guantanimo. (where he may have to endure having panties put on his head)


35 posted on 08/10/2006 5:42:20 AM PDT by Jason_b
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To: IrishMike

An intimidated juror is grounds for Defense counsel death


36 posted on 08/10/2006 5:43:38 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. Slay Pinch)
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To: NicknamedBob

"Only a lawyer can so strain at a gnat while ignoring the camel it rode in on."

Truth.


37 posted on 08/10/2006 5:43:42 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Taglines for sale or rent. Good "one liners", 50 cents.)
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To: IrishMike

Another judge who needs to be removed from office


38 posted on 08/10/2006 5:48:28 AM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: sirchtruth

I would guess the Judge has 24/7 protection and a hi-tech home alarm system. Likely has family under protective suveillance and gets driver to and fro to court in an armored limo.

Is she willing to live the every day life of these "common" jurors?

She needs to walk in the jurors shoes for a day when it comes to this case.

IMHO, if the guy is found guilty Hamas will give each of these 12 members of the jury and their families a personal jihad.


39 posted on 08/10/2006 5:53:01 AM PDT by not2worry (What goes around comes around.)
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To: IrishMike

Black robe fever strikes again.

Judges refuse to live in the real world.


40 posted on 08/10/2006 5:53:44 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory
St. Eve, Amy J.

Born 1965 in Belleville, IL

Federal Judicial Service:

Judge, U. S. District Court, Northern District of Illinois

Nominated by George W. Bush on March 21, 2002, to a seat vacated by George W. Lindberg; Confirmed by the Senate on August 1, 2002, and received commission on August 2, 2002.

Education:

Cornell University, B.A., 1987

Cornell Law School, J.D., 1990

Professional Career:

Private practice, New York City, 1990-1994

Associate independent counsel, Whitewater Independent Counsel's Office, Little Rock, Arkansas, 1994-1996

Assistant U.S. attorney, Northern District of Illinois, 1996-2001

Senior counsel, Abbott Laboratories, Abbott Park, Illinois, 2001-2002

Race or Ethnicity: White

Gender: Female

41 posted on 08/10/2006 6:18:08 AM PDT by grey_whiskers
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Right! and we should start with Mohammed N. Rahman.
http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/1451921/posts
GOD don't just hate all these ragheads running around here in America?


42 posted on 08/10/2006 7:33:09 AM PDT by Valin (http://www.irey.com/)
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To: Lurker

If I told you what I call them, I would be forever banned from FR.


43 posted on 08/10/2006 8:24:31 AM PDT by FoxRun
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To: grey_whiskers

This just proves that the left's goal in taking over the law schools has succeeded beyond their wildest marxist fantasy.

They only train lawyers to the left so finding a true legal scholar who understands the law rather than outcome based leftist verbiage is more and more difficult.

EVEN NOW NEW LAW SCHOOLS are being permanently accredited.

There are more first year seats than applications. ANYONE can become a lawyer if they have a four year degree.


44 posted on 08/10/2006 8:30:26 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Nominated by George W. Bush on March 21, 2002

I was curious to know how she got on the bench. Thanks.

45 posted on 08/10/2006 8:33:47 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Valin

I do not hate them -- some will not believe me. The religion they follow is obviously teaching them to harm us. Therefore, until the imams come out and openly denounce what is going on, the people who follow them and the imams themselves must leave the country. We are all at risk as along as they are here. It's pure logic, not emotion.


46 posted on 08/10/2006 9:57:40 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: flynmudd
"That sounds like a democrat social program."

It does have that ring to it, doesn't it? ;^)
47 posted on 08/10/2006 5:28:54 PM PDT by loboinok (Gun control is, hitting what you aim at!)
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To: IrishMike; SJackson; yonif; Simcha7; American in Israel; Slings and Arrows; judicial meanz; ...

AMERICA AT WAR
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Honored member of FReeper Leapfrog's "Enemy of Islam" list.
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Translated Pre-War IRAQ Documents  by jveritas
Mohammed, The Mad Poet Quoted....  by PsyOp
One FReeper On The Line  by SNOWFLAKE
The Clash of Ideologies - A Review

"It's time we recognized the nature of the conflict. It's total war and we are all involved. Nobody on our side is exempted because of age, gender, or handicap. The Islamofacists have stolen childhood from the world." [FReeper Retief]

American Flag

48 posted on 08/10/2006 6:00:59 PM PDT by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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To: wildwood; IrishMike

<< what morons lawyers are! >>

Particularly those of the, "failed with a failed-lawyer politician for a friend: 'judge'" variety.

Orange Brian


49 posted on 08/10/2006 6:10:10 PM PDT by Brian Allen ("In war there is no substitute for victory." General Douglas MacArthur -- GINGRICH/TANCREDO2008)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
LOL. You don't know me. I openly tell people this. I fear no one, because I am ready to die for what I believe -- just like they are. What's your next comment?

Thought you might like to see the signs I had posted in the window of my old car for about six months. I got lots of thumbs up from drivers going down the road. Also had the car keyed by some punk, but the paint was already deteriorated, so I didn't really care. Somone also stole my "Support The Troops" magnet.

The funniest thing that happened was as I was getting out of my car as I parked it on the street. The guy in front of me got out of his truck as started screaming at about my Kerry sign. He interpreted it as meaning that I considered anyone who supported Kerry a supporter of terrorism--which of course I did. I tried to argue with him but he was incoherent. He was still calling me names as I walked away.

I agree with your comments.

Mohammed, The Mad Poet Quoted....


50 posted on 08/14/2006 2:57:49 PM PDT by PsyOp (There is only one decisive victory: the last. - Clauswitz.)
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