Posted on 08/10/2006 10:38:34 AM PDT by 2banana
ping for reference
I don't think you'll be alone, my friend.
I'm European and Christian. The author of this article makes a big confusion between religious practice and religious feelings. That's classical. And of which Europe does he talks ? Poland, Ireland, Italy, Spain, Greece... ? Even in France, maybe the more secular country in the word, churchs are not always empty as he seems to imagine. And I'm sure that even the priests prefer to have their churchs half empty of real believers than full of sanctimonious, as it used to be...
"Check out "The Legacy of Jihad" by Andrew Bostom."
Thanks for the reminder. I saw Bostom talking about the book a few
weeks ago on BookTV (C-Span2 weekends).
It does sound like a good review of how The Religion of Peace (TM)
interfaces with The People of The Book and other infidels.
Nope. The ones here just need to breed like rats. One of the martial principles taught in the quran is patience and using periods of 'peace' to martial, consolidate, build and arm forces while the enemy is lulled into a false sense of security. The worst of the wahabis are still exercised about the crusades and looking to exact their retribution against the west for the events of almost a millenia ago. They need not take the US by force today, tomorrow, next week or next year...they think of these things in terms of generations.
The only thing they need concern themselves with in the US is whether or not they can outbreed the mexicans.
bttt for later reading
"The ONLY way they can conquer us is through immigration."
"Nope. The ones here just need to breed like rats."
But the ones already here, who pose so many dangers, came here by our insane immigration policy.
First step: Stop any further immigration of Muslims.
Second step: Deport those already here.
Then we can end the ridulous security measures that would never have been needed if we hadn't let the vermin in in the first place.
No, even if you talk about religious practice, his statement is absurd. Statisticaly it's a nonsense. Especially if you consider that only a minority of Muslims in Europe really practice their religion regularly. Most of them don't eat pork, don't drink alcohol and fast during the Ramadan month. And pray from time to time. That's all. The fanatics are only a small minority but, I admit, an alarming minority.
allah=satan
I think he probably meant "practicing Christians", and that may well be true.
"Deport all Muslims. Now! Raze the mosques. Now!"
You're wasting valuable buildings. I could buy one and open a Dr. Dan's Pork Barbecue! Slow roasted for that authentic Islamic flavor.
It's only true if you consider that a real Christian is a "practicing Christian". And that's not at all my opinion.
It isn't just Fridays Dave. It's every day and its five times each day. I could manage without the beer, (yeah, I know. Sacrelige, right?) But its the no babes in minis that would turn me off.
Ping
Pinz
Let's not forget that we have the capability to turn these cities into seas of glass from the comfort of home. That is a situation that hasn't existed since 600 a.d. It's an ace that's nice to have up the sleeve.
_______________________________________________________ Absolutely untrue. The kind of regrettable nonsense which kills an entire argumentation... Pity
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However a recent poll shows that only about 5% of Europeans attend church on anything like a regular basis, Many of the older churches are being sold off for lack of attendance. Guess who is buying those empty churches?
I've never seen a church transformed in mosque in France, and I'm almost certain that such a thing doesn't exist here, or it would be a scandal. But I admit that I have seen churchs turned in mosques or in hindu temples in London suburb, near Wembley for instance. The kind of nightmare I hope I'll never see in France.
Ah- you're French?
Let me give you a scenario.
I'ts WW2, the Nazis have invaded France. Now, I'm not sure what the French are taught about that history, but I have it from my father-who fought his way through France, Holland,Germany etc- that NAZI-ism was the problem.
Not the 'small percentage' that seig heil'ed and actually fought. Not the SS. Nazism.The world's goal was to defeat Nazism, not just the SS.
Do you seriously think only the 'terrorists/SS' of Islam are the problem? Do you think your country would be what it is today if the world back then thought- 'just get the SS out and its done'? What happened to collaborateurs?
The Nazi ideaology was evil and it produced the SS.
The Islamic ideaology is evil, and it is producing terrorists and collaborators NOW.Killing all the terrorists won't bring peace, because Islam will produce more. It's what it does.
What is this INSISTENCE on separating the soldier from his marching orders, calling the latter 'bad' and insisting that that which produces him is 'good'? Can you imagine the words 'good' and Nazi going together in WW2? Did your parents think Nazi neighbors, worshipping Hitler and seig-heiling even tho they never picked up a gun, were just lovely people? ' Nice idea, Nazism; it's just those uncouth soldiers wearing swastikas that scare me!'??
Muslims believe in Islam, and in all it's bloody ambitions. If they don't, where are the millions leaving this 'hijacked' religion? Where are the 'reformed Muslims'? The modernized Koran without all the hate-speech that the 'bad' Muslims are using to sully Islam? Where are the 'good' Muslims with automatic weapons( which they all seem to have) shooting the terrorists kidnapping and placing roadside bombs? Shouldn't there be a Muslim Militia rising from the 'good majority' by now?
We both know where they are. In the imaginations of the naive and suicidally PC. Just like the majority of card-carrying Nazis, 'good Muslims' are sending money, supplies and SONS to terrorize the world. They are opportunists, waiting to enjoy the power of a Muslim victory. They are collaborateurs- but unlike WW2 in an occupied France, we don't have to wait to be freed from their soldiers to deal with them.
Mein Kamph or the Koran- if they believe in it, follow it and defend it- they are the enemy.
Just substitue the word 'Nazi' whenever Muslim is used, or put the word 'good' before the word 'Nazi' in WW2 French history. God help us, some have learned nothing from history.
I think that its even money that the govenment will step in to prevent Americans from stopping the takeover of our country. The 2nd Amendment will be repealed in the name of preventing "Sectarian violence" between Christians and Moslems. Any militias that try to defend America from the Moslem will be disarmend and forcibly disbanded.
Sadly I agree with you. Hate speech, hate crimes, are all aimed at Christians, since seem to be the only ones that can be hateful, or racist.
I remember how quickly the President branded the Minutemen as vigilantes.
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