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Egyptian student arrested at O'Hare
Chicago Sun Times & AP ^ | August 10, 2006 | Nathaniel Hernandez

Posted on 08/11/2006 11:26:54 AM PDT by NoFoxholeAthiests

Six of the 11 Egyptian exchange students who recently entered the United States and failed to show up for their college program were in custody Thursday after three more were arrested, officials said.

Police arrested Ahmed Mohamed Mohamed Abou El Ela, 22, at O'Hare International Airport after he tried to check in for a Chicago-to-Montana flight using an invalid ticket marked for a New York departure, Chicago police said.

El Ela raised his voice and became unruly after an employee at a Delta ticket counter refused to let him exchange the ticket for a valid one, said Timothy J. Bolger, the Chicago police officer at the scene. "He was loud and causing people to be alarmed," Bolger said. The officer said El Ela calmed down when police arrived.

After federal officials confirmed El Ela was one of the students they were seeking, police turned him over to immigration agents, Chicago Police Superintendent Phil Cline said.

Two other students, El Sayed Ahmed Elsayed Ibrahim, 20, and Alaa Abd El Fattah Ali El Bahnasawi, 20, were arrested at a residence in Dundalk, Md., outside Baltimore, by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents, the FBI said.

All are being held on administrative immigration violations because they did not report on time to their monthlong program at Montana State University in Bozeman, Mont.

A group of 17 students, six of whom reported to Bozeman on time, arrived in New York on July 29. After Montana State repeatedly tried to contact the missing students, it notified Department of Homeland Security officials and registered the Egyptians as no-shows in a system developed after the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks to track foreign students.

None of the students is considered a terrorism risk, and FBI officials stressed there are no ties between the Egyptians and the alleged terror plot broken up by British authorities.

The other five students were still being sought. Relatives in Egypt explained the students' failure to show up at Montana State by saying they probably wanted to find work in the United States.

"It must have been in his mind to stay where there are plenty of job opportunities," said Ibrahim el-Dessouki, the father of a student arrested Wednesday in Minnesota. "You know how much a dollar is worth here in Egypt."

He said he spoke to his son when he arrived in the United States but has not since.


TOPICS: US: Illinois; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: captured; egyptian; egyptianstudents; foreignstudents; immigration; islam; ord; students; terrorism
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Other article say that some of them have been picked up in Minneapolis, New Jersey and now Chicago. How is it that a bunch of Egyptian kids are SO well connected that they can travel all over the US and find so-called "friends and family". I hate to ask what kind of WORK they were setting out to find!?!?
1 posted on 08/11/2006 11:26:54 AM PDT by NoFoxholeAthiests
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To: Chena; NoFoxholeAthiests


Just nice fellows traveling across America......


2 posted on 08/11/2006 11:28:26 AM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: NoFoxholeAthiests

The quote that keeps running through my head is "the are at war with us and we don't even know it."


3 posted on 08/11/2006 11:29:37 AM PDT by DonaldC
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To: NoFoxholeAthiests

Electronic ankle-bracelets for all exchange students.


4 posted on 08/11/2006 11:30:01 AM PDT by 3AngelaD
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To: NoFoxholeAthiests
Colleges so desperate for cash that they don't care if they bring terrorists to the USA.
5 posted on 08/11/2006 11:30:51 AM PDT by Voltage
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To: NoFoxholeAthiests

Living near and being a frequent traveller in/out of O'Hare, I was particularly intriqued by the capture of one of the Egyptians there. How did he get from NY to Chicago? Hmmmmmmm.... inquiring minds want to know.


6 posted on 08/11/2006 11:30:55 AM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: NoFoxholeAthiests

Wonder if TWA 800 was a test run of the "explosive liquid" approach to blowing up an airliner.


7 posted on 08/11/2006 11:32:08 AM PDT by N. Theknow ((Kennedys - Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat - But they know what's best.))
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To: NoFoxholeAthiests

Hey, I've got an idea. Let's don't admit any "suspect groups" to the US to begin with.


8 posted on 08/11/2006 11:33:13 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: NoFoxholeAthiests
The other five students were still being sought. Relatives in Egypt explained the students' failure to show up at Montana State by saying they probably wanted to find work in the United States.

Find work! They are only here for 4 weeks on a study program!

9 posted on 08/11/2006 11:34:13 AM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: NoFoxholeAthiests

The title you created has to be changed to the original published title. Please do not alter titles. Thanks.


10 posted on 08/11/2006 11:35:37 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: BunnySlippers

The "find work" excuse doesn't wash. As I pointed out on another thread -- the smart thing to do if you're planning to work illegally under the circumstances is to go stay the month in Montana -- learn more English and get free room and board -- and then don't take the flight back to Egypt.


11 posted on 08/11/2006 11:36:43 AM PDT by tdewey10 (Can we please take out Iran's nuclear capability before they start using it?)
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To: NoFoxholeAthiests
" ... officials stressed there are no ties between the Egyptians and the alleged terror plot broken up by British authorities."

Possibly true .. but who's to say they are not operating a terrorist cel unto themselves and have plans for a future attack on America.

Not long ago, my next statemen would have been prefixed with .. "I'm sorry, but .. "

I don't think that way any more. I'm not sorry for how I feel .. nor how I think regarding any Middle Easterner that is in my country.

For too many years .. Saudi's, Iraqi's, Irani's, Egyptians, Afghani's, Pakistani's ... (hmmmm .. now that I type it out .. I see a common denominator ... they are all i's)

Well, anyway .. we Americans have been hated and attacked in too many different ways for me to feel like I should give any way to the 'good ones' as opposed to the bad ones.

Untill the 'good one's' come out loud and cleart .. imprisoning or killing the 'bad ones .. I ain't sorry for wanting ...

(now I'll finish that sentence)

I want every one of them out.

12 posted on 08/11/2006 11:39:32 AM PDT by knarf
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To: BunnySlippers

Exactly my thoughts! Why didn't they look for a job near campus? The story doesn't add up.


13 posted on 08/11/2006 11:39:43 AM PDT by Lobbyist (I want my American dream!)
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To: NoFoxholeAthiests
The other five students were still being sought. Relatives in Egypt explained the students' failure to show up at Montana State by saying they probably wanted to find work in the United States.

In other words, they lied to obtain a visa, and had no intention of being found.

Typical sandmaggot behavior.

14 posted on 08/11/2006 11:41:40 AM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: NoFoxholeAthiests

I'm certain that the guy they grabbed in Chicago is a terrorist. He might very well not have known how easy or hard it is to change your ticket, but his complete lack of knowledge about what happens when you make a lot of noise in an airport these days says it all to me.


15 posted on 08/11/2006 11:42:08 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: BunnySlippers
"Find work! They are only here for 4 weeks on a study program!"

D@mned Arabs truly think we are stupid as a box of rocks.

16 posted on 08/11/2006 11:42:14 AM PDT by el_texicano (Liberals, Socialist, DemocRATS, all touchy, feely, mind numbed robots, useless idiots all)
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To: NoFoxholeAthiests

So, what's his DUmmie screen name?


17 posted on 08/11/2006 11:43:30 AM PDT by rock_lobsta (cair = hamas = iran = EVIL)
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To: el_texicano

"Find work! They are only here for 4 weeks on a study program!

D@mned Arabs truly think we are stupid as a box of rocks."

Well, we let them in to begin with, didn't we?


18 posted on 08/11/2006 11:43:32 AM PDT by DonaldC
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To: knarf

I still remember back in Boulder during the Oklahoma bombing, when a bunch of Saudi students started cheering when the news broke on the TV in the chow hall.


19 posted on 08/11/2006 11:43:43 AM PDT by Eurotwit (WI)
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To: Lobbyist
Why didn't they look for a job near campus?

Because you are not allowed to work when you are here on a student visa!

20 posted on 08/11/2006 11:44:29 AM PDT by Former Fetus (fetuses are 100% pro-life, they just don't vote yet!)
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To: Voltage
At least Montana State had the decency to call DHS and report them missing. I suspect many colleges would actively help them evade capture.
21 posted on 08/11/2006 11:45:07 AM PDT by lesser_satan (EKTHELTHIOR!!!)
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To: N. Theknow
With regard to TWA800. We cannot lose sight of the fact that hundreds of people saw a light streaking toward the plane.

This plane most likely was shot down from a ship and I am not in any way inferring that it was one of our own planes. That bullship story was put out by the slick administration. Probably concocted by Blumenthal.

22 posted on 08/11/2006 11:45:19 AM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: NoFoxholeAthiests
The officer said El Ela calmed down when police arrived

Always a good idea when dealing with CPD.

23 posted on 08/11/2006 11:45:43 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: NoFoxholeAthiests
None of the students is considered a terrorism risk, and FBI officials stressed there are no ties between the Egyptians and the alleged terror plot broken up by British authorities.

I suspect they are saying this as a way to catch them off guard?

24 posted on 08/11/2006 11:46:20 AM PDT by Screamname (Batman and Godzilla : When will they fight?)
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To: onyx

cue Paul Simon's America... NOT!


25 posted on 08/11/2006 11:46:37 AM PDT by epluribus_2
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To: DonaldC
"Well, we let them in to begin with, didn't we?"

Ahem...ya do have a point there.

26 posted on 08/11/2006 11:46:44 AM PDT by el_texicano (Liberals, Socialist, DemocRATS, all touchy, feely, mind numbed robots, useless idiots all)
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To: NoFoxholeAthiests
I hate to ask what kind of WORK they were setting out to find!?!?

I'm sure they were just engaging in terrorist activities Americans weren't willing to engage in.

27 posted on 08/11/2006 11:47:16 AM PDT by lesser_satan (EKTHELTHIOR!!!)
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To: el_texicano

uh...how the others been found yet? IF NOT, WHY NOT?


28 posted on 08/11/2006 11:47:55 AM PDT by Republicus2001
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To: NoFoxholeAthiests
.....None of the students is considered a terrorism risk, and FBI officials stressed there are no ties between the Egyptians and the alleged terror plot broken up by British authorities.......

Another article posted here at FR said that the plotters in England were dispersed in 3 separate 'cells', and that the authorities did not know if there were more, despite the surveillance. Also, that this unsureity as to whether they got all the plotters has led to the clamping down on carry-on items on flights just in case.

I'm wondering whether these clowns, and their accompanying highly publicized search which started a few days ago, caused the handlers of the British plotters to give the go-ahead to their plans and this caused the authorities to panic and order the rounding up of the British plotters.

29 posted on 08/11/2006 11:48:28 AM PDT by DoctorMichael (A wall first. A wall now.)
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To: BunnySlippers

they must be driving across america- visiting wal marts and buying lots of phones so they can call home.....those 4 weeks could get lonely ya know....

and those 4 weeks just happen to fall in the time frame of August 16th........

and the FBI wants to assure us that these students are no threat.....

I am so sick of gov't and media thinking we are that stupid.......


30 posted on 08/11/2006 11:51:09 AM PDT by eeevil conservative (JOHN BOLTON FOR PRESIDENT)
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To: NoFoxholeAthiests
what kind of WORK they were setting out to find!?!?

Work that Americans won't do -- e.g., a little aviation bomb-making.

31 posted on 08/11/2006 11:51:29 AM PDT by expatpat
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To: NoFoxholeAthiests
None of the students is considered a terrorism risk

Really, now?

32 posted on 08/11/2006 11:51:52 AM PDT by NewLand (Posting against liberalism since the 20th century!)
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To: Former Fetus

Sorry. I thought they were allowed to work part-time on a student visa.


33 posted on 08/11/2006 11:52:52 AM PDT by Lobbyist (I want my American dream!)
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To: NoFoxholeAthiests

Savage has pictures of these guys up at www.michaelsavage.com. They look like such nice boys....


34 posted on 08/11/2006 11:55:38 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: Lobbyist
How does one work part time in Illinois, Maryland, Minnesota or New Jersey while studying in Montana?
35 posted on 08/11/2006 12:02:41 PM PDT by Clive
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To: jiggyboy

What do you want to bet it was a FEMALE who told him he couldn't exchange his ticket?


36 posted on 08/11/2006 12:02:47 PM PDT by GW and Twins Pawpaw (Sheepdog for Five [My grandkids are way more important than any lefty's feelings!])
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To: lesser_satan
"At least Montana State had the decency to call DHS and report them missing. I suspect many colleges would actively help them evade capture"

What is the reporting obligation of a University when one or more of its foreign students goes adrift?

37 posted on 08/11/2006 12:05:48 PM PDT by Clive
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To: Clive

If you live there you can. However, Montana is a bit far away to commute from the cities you mentioned. I've been told they cannot work while here on a student visa. So it doesn't matter.


38 posted on 08/11/2006 12:06:35 PM PDT by Lobbyist (I want my American dream!)
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To: NoFoxholeAthiests
Ahmed Mohamed Mohamed Abou El Ela

This guy should be the next Sec'y General at the UN.

39 posted on 08/11/2006 12:07:36 PM PDT by Disambiguator (Don't mess with Israel.)
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To: Lobbyist
Why didn't they look for a job near campus? The story doesn't add up.

The student visa doesn't include work authorization.

40 posted on 08/11/2006 12:13:27 PM PDT by BrooklynGOP (www.logicandsanity.com)
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To: NoFoxholeAthiests

My personal feeling is that this is a red herring. I have often heard of people who visit the US for the first time who have no idea of the size of this country. I read of a woman who planned to see the Statue of Liberty in the morning and then the Niagra Falls in the afternoon, and then see the Grand Canyon, (by car), the next day. I wouldn't be suprised if they simply got off of the plane in New York and thought they could rent a car and drive to Montana and sightsee on the way. Then this guy got tired or realized how much driving was involved and tried to fly the rest of the way from Chicago on his New York to Montana ticket.


41 posted on 08/11/2006 12:17:50 PM PDT by sportutegrl (A person is a person, no matter how small. (Dr. Seuss))
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To: NoFoxholeAthiests

My company just lost a fantstic job candidate from Asia because he could not maintain his visitor status into next year, and we are allowing hoards for islamic terrorists into our country on student visas. Brilliant!


42 posted on 08/11/2006 12:20:08 PM PDT by ilgipper
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To: NoFoxholeAthiests
"After Montana State repeatedly tried to contact the missing students, it notified Department of Homeland Security officials and registered the Egyptians as no-shows in a system developed after the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks to track foreign students."

Finally someone took a more pro-active approach in doing their job. The guy that called DHS should get a recognition award of some sort.... Maybe a letter from W.

43 posted on 08/11/2006 12:20:27 PM PDT by Cobra64 (All we get are lame ideas from Republicans and lame criticism from dems about those lame ideas.)
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To: 3AngelaD
Electronic ankle-bracelets for all exchange students.

And if their visa expires, zap. They're sterilized.

44 posted on 08/11/2006 12:21:47 PM PDT by Cobra64 (All we get are lame ideas from Republicans and lame criticism from dems about those lame ideas.)
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To: sportutegrl

but 11 of them, and all in different locations?


45 posted on 08/11/2006 12:23:59 PM PDT by ilgipper
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To: Clive

I'm not exactly sure, but common sense dictates that eleven foreign nationals of middle-eastern origin wandering the countryside at their leisure could present a problem.


46 posted on 08/11/2006 12:26:44 PM PDT by lesser_satan (EKTHELTHIOR!!!)
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To: sportutegrl

Also this would not be an unusual for someone to think who was accustomed to railroad tickets as the main way of getting around.


47 posted on 08/11/2006 12:28:29 PM PDT by babble-on
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To: NoFoxholeAthiests

"None of the students is considered a terrorism risk..."

There's your problem.


48 posted on 08/11/2006 12:31:44 PM PDT by BadAndy ("Loud mouth internet Rambo")
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To: Voltage
Colleges so desperate for cash that they don't care if they bring terrorists to the USA.

Cash or no cash, they want to bring them in so that we can get to understand them better.

49 posted on 08/11/2006 12:31:49 PM PDT by oyez (The way to punish a providence is to allow it to be governed by philosophers. --Frederick the Great)
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To: 3AngelaD

Now that's a really good idea. Too bad it will never be implemented. How can we possibly be allowed to I.D. and track people visiting in this country when we aren't allowed to even ask for an I.D. at the Polls.


50 posted on 08/11/2006 12:35:52 PM PDT by pepperdog
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