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Rice is in way over her head (Helen Thomas)
HEARST NEWSPAPERS ^ | Friday, August 11, 2006 | helen thomas

Posted on 08/11/2006 12:53:44 PM PDT by 2dogjoe

Rice is in way over her head Friday, August 11, 2006

By HELEN THOMAS HEARST NEWSPAPERS

WASHINGTON -- Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice has flunked her first foreign policy crisis in the Middle East.

She went to the turbulent region last month in the early days of the war that began when Hezbollah forces in Lebanon crossed into Israel and kidnapped two Israeli soldiers.

Rice had orders from President Bush to oppose any immediate cease-fire, which was hardly the proper policy by the United States if it wanted to end the suffering among Israelis and Lebanese.

Rice apparently was dispatched to the Middle East to pass on to Israel the message that it has the green light from the White House to do whatever it wanted and could take more time to clobber the rocket-firing Hezbollah forces in Lebanon despite Lebanese and international pleas for a truce.

Israel has taken that message to heart, and Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert seems bent on proving that he can be as tough as his predecessors.

During her trip, Rice was snubbed by Lebanese Prime Minister Fouad Siniora, who told her she was not welcome in Beirut if the U.S. did not support an immediate cessation of hostilities.

She was later blindsided in her personal visit with Olmert and other Israeli officials. During the meeting, the Israelis failed to alert Rice of their bombing massacre that day of Lebanese civilians in the village of Qana. The attack evoked worldwide indignation.

Rice was notified of the attack later by e-mail from a State Department staffer. After learning the news of Qana, Rice appeared shaken and stressed out. Perhaps the human dimension of a threadbare foreign policy finally hit home.

Rice is out of her league and seems to have little knowledge about the Middle East. Rice's expertise was always on the now-defunct Soviet Union and the Cold War.

Nor does she seek the advice of her former boss, Brent Scowcroft, who served as President George H. W. Bush's national security adviser. Scowcroft is a pro in Middle East diplomacy.

Her style is to lecture the leaders of sovereign countries in the Middle East as though they were school boys. When asked why the U.S. won't talk to the Syrians who she blames for sponsoring Hezbollah, she said: "Syrians have known for a long time what they need to do."

Insiders claim that after her return from her Middle Eastern swing, Rice began pushing for a quick cease-fire but that Bush refused -- apparently to accommodate the wishes of the Israeli leaders who wanted more time to rough up Hezbollah.

Former President Jimmy Carter has been critical of the Bush-Rice policies, which he said have fostered violence in the Middle East and "encourage the continuation of attacks on both sides."

Rice says she is working for a lasting and sustainable peace, but I'm sure the people in the war zone would be happy if the U.S. would just take steps now to stop the guns of August.

Retired Army Lt. Gen. William Odom recently zeroed in on a fundamental truth about the Hezbollah-Israel war when he said U.S. policies in Iraq "opened the door for Iran and Syria to support Hezbollah." The U.S. presence in Iraq has had a "radicalizing impact" in the region, Odom recently wrote.

It will be a long time before the U.S. regains the great respect and reverence it once enjoyed among the peoples of the Middle East before Bush's aggressive policies took hold, starting with his unprovoked invasion of Iraq.

The Iraq war -- which Rice helped to pump up when she was Bush's national security adviser -- is one of her foreign policy failures. The failure of the U.S. to take steps to halt the current Israel-Hezbollah war is merely another sign that she's in over her head.

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Helen Thomas is a columnist for Hearst Newspapers. E-mail: helent@hearstdc.com. Copyright 2006 Hearst Newspapers.

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1 posted on 08/11/2006 12:53:45 PM PDT by 2dogjoe
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To: 2dogjoe

I'm sorry, all I read was "blah blah blah blah..."


2 posted on 08/11/2006 12:54:38 PM PDT by The Blitherer (You were given the choice between war & dishonor. You chose dishonor & you will have war. -Churchill)
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To: 2dogjoe

What masochist decided to post the senile rantings of this old broad?

Oh, was it you, dogjoe?


3 posted on 08/11/2006 12:55:01 PM PDT by altura (Bushbot No. 1 - get in line.)
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To: 2dogjoe
Helen Thomas is a columnist socialist for Hearst Newspapers. E-mail: helent@hearstdc.com. Copyright 2006 Hearst Newspapers.
4 posted on 08/11/2006 12:55:34 PM PDT by JHBowden (A wise man proportions his belief to the evidence. -- David Hume)
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To: 2dogjoe

IBHTP


5 posted on 08/11/2006 12:55:54 PM PDT by NYleatherneck (It ain't a World War until the French surrender.)
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To: 2dogjoe
Rice is in way over her head (Helen Thomas)

Corrected version:

Helen Thomas: Rice is way over my head

There, that's better.

6 posted on 08/11/2006 12:56:01 PM PDT by TChris (Banning DDT wasn't about birds. It was about power.)
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To: 2dogjoe

No one cares what Helen says


7 posted on 08/11/2006 12:56:27 PM PDT by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: 2dogjoe

Do we HAVE to read the article before we post? /whining


8 posted on 08/11/2006 12:56:52 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: 2dogjoe

"Helen Thomas' Head is 'way too far up her ass'."


9 posted on 08/11/2006 12:57:01 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: 2dogjoe
During the meeting, the Israelis failed to alert Rice of their bombing massacre and photo hoax that day of Lebanese civilians in the village of Qana. The attack evoked worldwide indignation laughter.

your true colors are showing again helen
10 posted on 08/11/2006 12:57:25 PM PDT by boxerblues
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To: 2dogjoe

If only Helen Thomas were Sec'y of State the world would be all rosy. Or totally on fire in many shades of red.


11 posted on 08/11/2006 12:57:42 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: 2dogjoe

Wish Helen had a bag over hers.


12 posted on 08/11/2006 12:57:48 PM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: 2dogjoe
Check my new tagline.
13 posted on 08/11/2006 12:58:59 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter ( Helen Thomas on anticipating and handling a crisis: "I'll live under that bridge when I get to it.")
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To: Gaffer
is it ...
HEZBOLLA HELEN
or
HEZZY HELLEN
?
14 posted on 08/11/2006 12:58:59 PM PDT by Steven W.
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To: PBRSTREETGANG

As long as there aren't any pics, we will all be OK.
Let's just stay very calm everyone and look away from Medusas article.


15 posted on 08/11/2006 12:59:12 PM PDT by JerseyDvl ("If you attack Americans, we'll defend your right to do it."- The Democrat Party)
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To: 2dogjoe

Groan... Why is this woman 109 years old? I thought the devil always double-crossed you when you sold your soul to him.


16 posted on 08/11/2006 12:59:26 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: 2dogjoe

I didn't read it. Did the old bitch call the Secretary of State a "house nigger"? Or was that harry belafonte who said that?


17 posted on 08/11/2006 12:59:39 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: 2dogjoe

She'd better up her Alzheimer's medication.


18 posted on 08/11/2006 12:59:39 PM PDT by MarkeyD (The patriotism of the New York Times = The humanity of an Islamic terrorist.)
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To: 2dogjoe

And halfbright wasn't?


19 posted on 08/11/2006 12:59:45 PM PDT by Let's Roll ( "Congressmen who ... undermine the military ... should be arrested, exiled or hanged" - A. Lincoln)
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To: 2dogjoe

Pit bull from HELLen .


20 posted on 08/11/2006 1:00:12 PM PDT by lionheart 247365 (( I.S.L.A.M. stands for - Islams Spiritual Leaders Advocate Murder .. .. .. ))
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To: 2dogjoe
If Rice is out of her depth, Helen is supremely out of her's. This is the analysis of a 7th grader. Why Hearst keeps this dim bitty on the payroll is beyond me.
21 posted on 08/11/2006 1:00:15 PM PDT by mojito
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To: PBRSTREETGANG

The Lenanese reporter, Hezbollah Helen, knows more than the PhD! That sounds about par for the leftist media.


22 posted on 08/11/2006 1:00:50 PM PDT by ghostrider
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To: 2dogjoe
Retired Army Lt. Gen. William Odom recently zeroed in on a fundamental truth about the Hezbollah-Israel war when he said U.S. policies in Iraq "opened the door for Iran and Syria to support Hezbollah." The U.S. presence in Iraq has had a "radicalizing impact" in the region, Odom recently wrote.

How did he make General?

23 posted on 08/11/2006 1:00:57 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter ( Helen Thomas on anticipating and handling a crisis: "I'll live under that bridge when I get to it.")
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To: Steven W.

Hezbeen Helenola (as in 'has been)


24 posted on 08/11/2006 1:01:24 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: 2dogjoe

That old Arab again? Is she embalmed?


25 posted on 08/11/2006 1:01:40 PM PDT by subterfuge (If Liberals hated terrorists like they hate Bush the war would be over by now)
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To: boxerblues
Israelis also failed to alert Rice about Martian invasion and Bigfoot sightings. So what?
26 posted on 08/11/2006 1:01:56 PM PDT by alecqss
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To: 2dogjoe

Geez, over 20 posts and no pix...too much real news going on today apparently.


27 posted on 08/11/2006 1:02:17 PM PDT by goalinestan (Build it...and they won't come (as easily))
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To: 2dogjoe

"....Bush refused -- apparently to accommodate the wishes of the Israeli leaders who wanted more time to rough up Hezbollah."

For goodness sake, let's don't go roughing up the TERRORISTS!!!


28 posted on 08/11/2006 1:03:09 PM PDT by gramcam
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To: The Blitherer

>>>I'm sorry, all I read was "blah blah blah blah..."

I"m sorry, all I read was "surrender... Jimmy Carter... rabbit... surrender... talk to my Democrat loser friends... Israeli's shouldn't defend themselves... surrender, or you'll make them mad..."


29 posted on 08/11/2006 1:03:27 PM PDT by Hop A Long Cassidy
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To: subterfuge

When she was in the WH press briefings, I always half expected her to break out into the standard female ARAB mourner chant ------leeee leeee leeee leeee laaaaaaa laaaaa laaaaa


30 posted on 08/11/2006 1:03:31 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: alecqss

Bigfoot has been sighted and nobody on FR started a thread....Im disappointed


31 posted on 08/11/2006 1:03:35 PM PDT by boxerblues
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To: 2dogjoe
I hope all the Freepers who complained that Condi was "wanting a ceasefire" will eat their words.

If Helen "Bow-wow" Thomas is complaining about Condi - that's just one more plus for her.

32 posted on 08/11/2006 1:03:41 PM PDT by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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To: Tokra

Cease Fire? We don't want no steeeeenkin' Cease Fire!!!!!!!!!!!!


33 posted on 08/11/2006 1:04:44 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: 2dogjoe

Sounds like Crazy Aunt Helen thinks Israel should just handle terrorism it had been handling it...you know, back when it was just a nuisance.

Right, John Kerry?

This is something like what we would be living through with ol' Frankenstein as president. An "Acceptable" level of terrorism, a level where it is just a nuisance. A bomb here, suicide belt there, shootings once in a while...nothing *THAT BAD* that we need to go to war against anyone. Just little pinpricks to slowly bleed you dry.

Only when arabs start dying does the world think attacks mean something. When it is jews dying they issue bland, meaningless platitudes and do nothing.

Yes, if Crazy Aunt Helen had her way that next subway ride could be your last, or maybe you would go to get some pizza and not come back. That would be an accepable nuisance. Unless it happened to or near her, of course. Then it would be the end of the world.


34 posted on 08/11/2006 1:04:49 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Amnesia is a train of thought.)
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To: 2dogjoe

Ahh yes, Helen Thomas, the female Baghdad Bob of the Israeli-Hezbollah War. The kicker is that Baghdad Bob was better looking and better informed.


35 posted on 08/11/2006 1:04:52 PM PDT by jazusamo (DIANA IREY for Congress, PA 12th District: Retire murtha.)
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To: 2dogjoe

And your Phd is from where , Helen?..........


36 posted on 08/11/2006 1:05:01 PM PDT by Red Badger (Is Castro dead yet?........)
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To: 2dogjoe

Helen Thomas is a joke. But I do think Bolton has accomplish way more than Rice.


37 posted on 08/11/2006 1:05:16 PM PDT by Orange1998
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To: 2dogjoe

Who would know how to do it better; Warren Christopher? After all, he brokered such a lasting peace deal in the Middle East. /sarc


38 posted on 08/11/2006 1:06:06 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Tokra

I almost didn't click on this as I just couldn't stomach seeing a pic of this monster this late in the day. Whew got lucky and am out before the sadists start putting pictures up.

And oh by the way, I agree with you. If Godzilla Helen doesn't like Condi then its a plus.


39 posted on 08/11/2006 1:06:14 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: Orange1998

The affairs of state for this administration are a 'team effort' Whatever one accomplishes, we all accomplish...


40 posted on 08/11/2006 1:06:19 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: driftdiver
Whew got lucky and am out before the sadists start putting pictures up.

I think most posters feel that yesterday's news was a big enough shock for one week.

A photo of Helen Thomas would be just too much to take.

41 posted on 08/11/2006 1:08:14 PM PDT by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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To: 2dogjoe

Helen Thomas is way past her expiration date. Surely some recycling is in order.

She clearly misses of chooses to ignore the US's goal. Keep the UN and France appropriate occupied while Israel gets the job done.

It should be obvious that none of the countries working so hard to formulate a cease fire argreement are actually the combatants. Duh--if the combatants don't like it France can marrry it and it still will won't matter.


42 posted on 08/11/2006 1:08:39 PM PDT by rod1
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To: 2dogjoe

"It will be a long time before the U.S. regains the great respect and reverence it once enjoyed among the peoples of the Middle East before Bush's aggressive policies took hold, starting with his unprovoked invasion of Iraq."

WTH? What planet does this "woman" live on. What reverence could she possibly be talking about. So incredibly ignorant.


43 posted on 08/11/2006 1:08:49 PM PDT by Eragon
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To: 2dogjoe
Here it comes.... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . .. . . . . . .. . . . .. . . . .. . .. . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . .. . . . .. . .. . . . .. . .. . . . . .. . .. . .. . . . . .. . . . . .. . . . . . . . . .. . . . . .. . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. .. . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. .. . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
44 posted on 08/11/2006 1:09:08 PM PDT by mirkwood (Gun control isn't about guns. It's about control.)
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To: 2dogjoe; Coop; Donna Lee Nardo; Albion Wilde; devolve; lbjgal
 
 
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45 posted on 08/11/2006 1:09:20 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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In before the unnngh....
46 posted on 08/11/2006 1:09:24 PM PDT by evets (08-22-06)
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To: Gaffer
standard female ARAB mourner chant ------leeee leeee leeee leeee laaaaaaa laaaaa laaaaa

Wow Gaff, that is downright creepy. I can picture her actually doing that, if indeed she is still alive--I have my doubts that she isn't one of the walking dead.

47 posted on 08/11/2006 1:09:35 PM PDT by subterfuge (If Liberals hated terrorists like they hate Bush the war would be over by now)
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To: 2dogjoe
Nor does she seek the advice of her former boss, Brent Scowcroft, who served as President George H. W. Bush's national security adviser. Scowcroft is a pro in Middle East diplomacy.

Guess that I must have been absent that day when Brent Scowcroft solved the Middle East's crises...

48 posted on 08/11/2006 1:09:37 PM PDT by The Electrician ("Government is the only enterprise in the world which expands in size when its failures increase.")
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To: 2dogjoe

Rice gives simple answers because the answers ARE simple: As GWB said, all the Syrians need to do is tell Hezbollah to stop doing this s***.

Of course, whenever anyone disagrees with a member of the leftist media establishment, that person is considered "in over her head".

Yes, Helen, the days of the Carter/Clinton "diplomacy" (i.e. rolling over for the Arab masters) and the Baker/Scowcraft country club Arab butt-kissers are over.


49 posted on 08/11/2006 1:09:43 PM PDT by dinoparty
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To: gov_bean_ counter
He is pissed because he did not get his 4th star.
50 posted on 08/11/2006 1:10:11 PM PDT by verity (The MSM is comprised of useless eaters)
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