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Prosecutor: Mackinac Bridge was target (plan for cell phones)
The Saginaw News ^ | JUSTIN ENGEL08/12/06

Posted on 08/12/2006 3:11:03 PM PDT by SE Mom

Tuscola County prosecutors filed terrorism-related charges Saturday against three men who they say bought dozens of cell phones Friday in Caro in a globally coordinated plot involving the Mackinac Bridge.

They charged brothers Adham Abdelhamid Othman, 21, and Louai Abdelhamied Othman, 23, along with their cousin, Maruan Awad Muhareb, 18, with identical counts of collecting material to support terrorist acts and surveillance of a vulnerable target with intent to committ terrorism.

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1 posted on 08/12/2006 3:11:04 PM PDT by SE Mom
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To: SE Mom

Thought this deserved a thread- seems significant in light of all the cell phone news lately.


2 posted on 08/12/2006 3:11:55 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet-pray for Israel))
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To: SE Mom

3 posted on 08/12/2006 3:13:54 PM PDT by Rb ver. 2.0
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pflr


4 posted on 08/12/2006 3:14:26 PM PDT by crghill
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To: SE Mom

That's not too far from Dearbornistan.


5 posted on 08/12/2006 3:14:27 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Cindy

ping


6 posted on 08/12/2006 3:15:04 PM PDT by RDTF ("We love death. The US loves life. That is the big difference between us two.” Osama Bin laden)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

Wow...that's one heckuva span..thanks for the photo.


7 posted on 08/12/2006 3:15:09 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet-pray for Israel))
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To: SE Mom

Kudos to that Walmart clerk. Store policy s no more than three one time cell phones per purchase. this clerk could have denied the purchase, leaving these guys to find other sources. Instead the clerk went ahead with the order and notified the constabulary. Very quick thinking.


8 posted on 08/12/2006 3:17:16 PM PDT by xkaydet65 (Peace, Love, Brotherhood, and Firepower. And the greatest of these is Firepower!)
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To: Paleo Conservative

It's all the way across the state, though.


9 posted on 08/12/2006 3:18:18 PM PDT by MarkeyD (The patriotism of the New York Times = The humanity of an Islamic terrorist.)
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To: SE Mom

As a Michigander by marriage and UM degrees, all I can say is OMG!

I wonder if Michiganders would finally wake up to the vipers down in Dearborn if the bridge had been blown up.


10 posted on 08/12/2006 3:18:36 PM PDT by radiohead (Hey Kerry, I'm still here; still hating your lying, stinking, guts you coward.)
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To: SE Mom

don't pick on these poor residents of Dearbornastan and graduates of Hexbolla High; dere good little MAZIs. < / sarc


11 posted on 08/12/2006 3:19:31 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: SE Mom

Hmm. Were they planning to make a big bomb by daisy chaining the lithium ion batteries or, multiple smaller "cutting charges" to sever the mail cables?

12 posted on 08/12/2006 3:20:18 PM PDT by fso301
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To: SE Mom
Adham Abdelhamid Othman, 21, and Louai Abdelhamied Othman, 23, their cousin, Maruan Awad Muhareb, 18, are all quiet, freindly Muslim boys who were very religious and who prayed every day. There must be a mistake here! Or were they framed by Home Scurity because it wants to justify the millions of dollars spent on home defence?

This was a set up, these men (boys) are harmless. CAIR said so!

13 posted on 08/12/2006 3:21:06 PM PDT by Candor7 (Into Liberal flatulance goes the best hope of the West, and who wants to be a smart feller?)
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To: SE Mom; TexKat

For those of you who are not following this on the Daily Mideast thread.

This is a link that was posted by TexKat there:

http://www.youareworthmore.org/node/21435

It's an anti-Walmart site, but this thread has some very interesting discussion about this from apparent Wal-Mart employees. This has been going on for months.


14 posted on 08/12/2006 3:22:57 PM PDT by dinasour (Pajamahadeen and member of the Head SnowFlake Committee)
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To: SE Mom

Oh my!!! Isn't there usually a walk on the Mackinac Bridge on Labor Day?


15 posted on 08/12/2006 3:23:18 PM PDT by good old days
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To: SE Mom
Reallly scary + depressing to think we are in fact relying more on Walmart clerks than on the freaking FBI for our national security.

Perhaps next time we have a Waco-type scenario, we should call Walmart...?

16 posted on 08/12/2006 3:23:30 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: SE Mom
Seems like a rather pointless target for terrorism, though. About the only way to make it worthwhile to terrorists would be to take it out with a lot of potential victims on it.

Of course, there is one such event coming up: the Annual Bridge Walk, which is scheduled for September 4.

17 posted on 08/12/2006 3:24:41 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: Candor7

It's pretty unbelievable to think of all these cell phones being sold out there to what wicked purpose- whether they were successful or not is almost beside the point. Terror is the point. Will any of the residents there drive across the bridge this week without wondering..


18 posted on 08/12/2006 3:24:44 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet-pray for Israel))
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To: SE Mom

Mighty Mackinaw? In the drink?


19 posted on 08/12/2006 3:25:02 PM PDT by No Truce With Kings (The opinions expressed are mine! Mine! MINE! All Mine!)
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To: fso301

"Hmm. Were they planning to make a big bomb by daisy chaining the lithium ion batteries or, multiple smaller "cutting charges" to sever the mail cables?"

10,000 hacksaw blades?


20 posted on 08/12/2006 3:25:42 PM PDT by Rb ver. 2.0
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To: good old days
Oh my!!! Isn't there usually a walk on the Mackinac Bridge on Labor Day?

Yup. See the link on #17. The picture shows the brige full of people.

21 posted on 08/12/2006 3:26:45 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: SE Mom
I'm prepared to believe that bridge was ONE of their targets, but the ONLY one? No way:

They were traveling all over the country, yet when it comes to the critical question of a TARGET, they confine their scope to their own backyard?

Unlikely.

They Feds are "protecting" us by holding something back.

22 posted on 08/12/2006 3:26:58 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: dinasour

Glad you posted that link..


23 posted on 08/12/2006 3:28:49 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet-pray for Israel))
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To: SE Mom

Holy Moly my kids just went over the Mackinac bridge early this morning!! They are due to come home (Detroit area) tomorrow evening which means they ahve to cross it again. Why the Mackinac bridge?


24 posted on 08/12/2006 3:29:11 PM PDT by Diva
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To: r9etb

Thanks. That site says that 65,000 people participate. That's a scary thought.


25 posted on 08/12/2006 3:29:47 PM PDT by good old days
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To: Paleo Conservative

About 5 hours away.


26 posted on 08/12/2006 3:30:08 PM PDT by Diva
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To: r9etb

RE: #17, Talk about the potential for a drive-by.


27 posted on 08/12/2006 3:30:10 PM PDT by Rb ver. 2.0
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To: xkaydet65

Indeed. All corporations need to teach their employees to react in a similar manner.


28 posted on 08/12/2006 3:30:12 PM PDT by EdReform (Protect our 2nd Amendment Rights - Join the NRA today - www.nra.org)
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To: MarkeyD

The lower part of the state. There is the UP ya' know :-) .

Lived there 12 years.


29 posted on 08/12/2006 3:30:26 PM PDT by PeteB570 (Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
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To: SE Mom

Thanks for posting it.


30 posted on 08/12/2006 3:30:37 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Rb ver. 2.0
Were they planning to make a big bomb by daisy chaining the lithium ion batteries

Jokes aside, can they be doing something with these phones that we have not thought of.

The conventional wisdom is that they are going to be used as detonators. Where are they going to get the 10 tons (or so) of high explosives to attach to all these detonators.

Why so many? They only need 20 or 30 to get a Fox News Alert.

31 posted on 08/12/2006 3:30:54 PM PDT by dinasour (Pajamahadeen and member of the Head SnowFlake Committee)
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To: gaijin

You know- even without a tinfoil hat- I think you may have a point. Considering the numbers of these that have been bought recently by unfriendly sorts..you have to at least wonder what OTHER targets may be on various lists..


32 posted on 08/12/2006 3:31:14 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet-pray for Israel))
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To: SE Mom
A pang of the deja vu went through me on your post. It was just a month after 9/11 when the gateway to the United States,was involved. Three Dearborn men were taking videos of the St Mary's International Bridge. It lies about 55 miles north of the Mighty Mac.

Customs employees alerted the FBI. Just tourists, the men said. The names, of course reeked of the Casbah, or whatever. Officialy no crime was committed according to the law books.

Many, many times have I crossed this great monument to a human endeavour, known as the Mighty Mac. A thing of beauty and yet utility. It is walked across by thousands on Labour Day. I carried my three year old daughter across it on my shoulders.

I am in awe yet, as I pay my fee and drive across to Mackinac City. My exclaimation pushes the limit.

Bloody swines.

33 posted on 08/12/2006 3:31:45 PM PDT by Peter Libra
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To: Rb ver. 2.0
Here is a more recent pic from a different angle

Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting

34 posted on 08/12/2006 3:32:30 PM PDT by magslinger (Without Freedom, Utopia isn't paradise after all. It's just hell in a fancy prom dress. Steven James)
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To: radiohead
I wonder if Michiganders would finally wake up to the vipers down in Dearborn if the bridge had been blown up.

The Mitch Al-bums of the Freep and News are all ready busy scribbling that we cant stereotype against anyone (except for when it comest to affirmative action), so if they got the bridge, they will be ready.

You can walk under it, but if you look up there are brand new cameras and motion sensors, anyone who tried anything would be toast.

35 posted on 08/12/2006 3:33:26 PM PDT by Mark was here (How can they be called "Homeless" if their home is a field?.)
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To: SE Mom
Village and state police found one of the men discarding the packaging and battery chargers for the phones. The men apparently had separated the batteries from the other phones in the van.

Let's see, these men are from Dallas in Michigan purchasing cell phones for resale, but discarding the battery chargers. That makes good Islamic sense.
36 posted on 08/12/2006 3:33:53 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Jesus on Immigration, John 10:1)
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To: fso301
Hmm. Were they planning to make a big bomb by daisy chaining the lithium ion batteries or, multiple smaller "cutting charges" to sever the mail cables?

Well, the #1 way of detonating IEDs in Iraq is with a cell phone wired into the detonator. And since the Treason Times announced that the NSA was listening in on calls going outside the country, what better way to call phone numbers that might be on the watch list than with a cell phone with no way to trace the call back... Or if there's a roaming wiretap that's been approved, just how will it be implemented if the people that are being "watched" keep changing their cell phones with different phone numbers every call or two...

Mark

37 posted on 08/12/2006 3:34:06 PM PDT by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: Diva

Your guess is as good as mine. My guess? Because it's there (like Mt Everest) ..and it's symbolic.

As for time and date when they were planning- who knows- but if I lived there it would be already be having the desired effect on me- even if only temporarily- fear.


38 posted on 08/12/2006 3:34:08 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet-pray for Israel))
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To: gaijin
They were traveling all over the country, yet when it comes to the critical question of a TARGET, they confine their scope to their own backyard?

Terrorism, like politics, is local.

If you're a novice terrorist, it's probably smarter to swing at some low hanging fruit first. A target that you're familiar with, in terrain you're familiar with, would be the best way to go.

Getting the supplies for the attack doesn't need to be done nearby, though, and in fact it was prudent of them to spread out their purchases like they did. As to the target, I think that it's a very normal thing to attack something close to home. The only major event where that wasn't the case was 9/11.

39 posted on 08/12/2006 3:35:07 PM PDT by Steel Wolf (- Islam will never survive being laughed at. -)
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To: SE Mom

US citizens? -or illegal immigrants?


40 posted on 08/12/2006 3:35:41 PM PDT by tioga
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To: SE Mom
Hello,

I have spent much time thinking about the question of targets. Of course, bridges would be big, malls, bus and train stations as well.

The one target I keep coming back to is schools. I imagine that the fact my son's 1st day of school is the 22nd has alot to do with my "gut feeling", but we know they are more than willing (happy in fact) to kill children.

Praying I am wrong, MOgirl
41 posted on 08/12/2006 3:36:27 PM PDT by MOgirl (Democrats: The Culture of Treason (and you know what I'm talkin about!))
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To: radiohead

I've lived here for 30+ years, and that would have been one helluva feat had they pulled it off. Makes me wonder now if there is a target in every state.


42 posted on 08/12/2006 3:36:36 PM PDT by rintense
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To: SE Mom

So, were these sickos working with college students (dang, aren't they all) Osama Sabhi Abulhassan, 20, and Ali Houssaiky, 20, both homegrown terrorists of Dearborn, Mich who were also arrested for having $11k and buying up cell phones? Did ya'll see the thread about Osama whining back in January because other students were hassling him about his name? Poor widdle thing swore he didn't have any connection with OBL and just wanted to play b-ball and keep his GPA high. Between Michigan and Oklahoma homegrown college terrorist we don't need to import any more.


43 posted on 08/12/2006 3:37:35 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: good old days

Yep, that would be the logical and optimum time to cause the most deaths and destruction.


44 posted on 08/12/2006 3:38:06 PM PDT by rintense
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To: Diva
Why the Mackinac bridge?

Having worked with demolitions for many years msny years I can tell you it would take far more than 10 tons of high explosives to bring down the Mackinac Bridge.
45 posted on 08/12/2006 3:38:17 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Jesus on Immigration, John 10:1)
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To: gaijin; SE Mom
Reallly scary + depressing to think we are in fact relying more on Walmart clerks than on the freaking FBI for our national security.

The FBI can't be everywhere. There are nearly 300 million US citizens. Concerned citizens need to be vigilent and report suspicious activity. If there had been the same kind of wariness prior to 9-11, those attacks could have been thwarted. I don't think the strippers who danced for Atta and the other 9-11 terrorists would ignore the terrorist threats made by them nowadays.

46 posted on 08/12/2006 3:38:49 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Mark was here
You can walk under it, but if you look up there are brand new cameras and motion sensors, anyone who tried anything would be toast.

They have weapons attached? Seems like the people that attacked us last time did not worry about their pictures being taken.... They even died performing the deed. What kind of deterrent is a camera for a person willing to die?

47 posted on 08/12/2006 3:39:24 PM PDT by ARealMothersSonForever (Political troglodyte with a partisan axe to grind)
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To: PeteB570
I've been to both and it is 300 miles (almost)
48 posted on 08/12/2006 3:39:25 PM PDT by MarkeyD (The patriotism of the New York Times = The humanity of an Islamic terrorist.)
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To: Peter Libra

Revealing my age, I recall childhood vacations to the Upper Penninsula when the bridge was under construction and the ferry would go past the pilings and construciton boats. I never had the opportunity to actually see the completed bridge, or drive across it, which I have always wanted to do. Photo is beautiful.


49 posted on 08/12/2006 3:39:26 PM PDT by hardworking
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To: MOgirl

Maybe another reason to homeschool.


50 posted on 08/12/2006 3:39:28 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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