Skip to comments.(Vanity) Katrina & Rita - 1 year later
Posted on 08/13/2006 2:13:29 AM PDT by Liberty911
Katrina & Rita - 1 year later - Appeal for help from a resident near Ground Zero...
Let's see what the power of Freep can do to motivate the United States Government and it's legislators and beauracrats for 2 small Parishes (counties) in the United States of America compared what it can do for a hostile country roughly twice the size of Idaho (Iraq)
I have been away from Freep for some time (I originally joined Sep 15, 2000) and have been deeply involved in other matters related to this clustermess we have down here, I personally assembled a facsimile database of all 535 members of the United States Congress and put into a comma-delimited text format for easy import into a FAX application among MANY other tasks I have quietly undertaken to try to help those more affected than myself.
I'm in Plaquemines Parish and have personally launched my boat MANY times to fish the backwaters of Grand Bayou.
I also recently travelled down the road to the end of Plaquemines Parish for the first time since K-Day and our little water-bombing party and took a LOT of photographs. I just couldn't bring myself to do it before now and I wasn't really whatsoever surprised at what I observed nearly after K-Day. Completely pathetic IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
Here are several threads on my forum that summarize the situation in Plaquemines, and I am also confident it pretty much is the same situation over in St. Bernard Parish.
Do we need to ask the United Nations for help?
Articles and threads:
Miseries of Hurricane Katrina continuing http://www.louisianaway.com/forums/index.php?topic=600.0
LOUISIANA STILL PAYING FOR PEREZ GREED TO THIS DAY http://www.louisianaway.com/forums/index.php?topic=491.0
TWINS KAT & RITA LET GO 10,500,000 gallons of oil, Exxon Valdez was 11 MILLION http://www.louisianaway.com/forums/index.php?topic=588.0
PORT SULPHUR GOT 40 FT OF WATER ACCORDING TO MODELS http://www.louisianaway.com/forums/index.php?topic=429.0
Wind gauges broke at about 185 mph during Katrina at Empire http://www.louisianaway.com/forums/index.php?topic=549.0
Debris, despair plague bayou Six months after Katrina, many still left stranded http://www.louisianaway.com/forums/index.php?topic=502.0
But spamming this message into every category is not a good idea.
What, specifically, are you asking for?
Delete it then if you think it demmed warranted and "spammed"
These people need help while our bubble head politicians are more interested in debating cockfighting durinf legislative sessions than they are Americans in total misery HERE in the United States of America...
For whatever help it is, here's what I have:
HURRICANE KATRINA- archive of links
various FR links & stories | 09-02-05 | the heavy equipment guy
HURRICANE RITA-- archive of links
various FR links & stories | 09-21-05 | the heavy equipment guy
What exactly is the problem? Boat ramp still broken? pinic area a mess? what is it?
Yeah, that's exactly the problems there Mr. Zachary.
And I could tell by the obvious fact that you read the threads I posted...
No, I haven't read the threads you posted. The LEAST you can do is give a summary of what the problem is if you want people to take interest.
If it's a envirmental problem, what we do here is organize people and clean it up ourselves, instead of waiting for someone else to come clean up our backyard.
Hw many barrels of pilled ooil have YOU mopped up?
Only the moderators can do that.
"These people need help while our bubble head politicians are more interested in debating cockfighting durinf legislative sessions than they are Americans in total misery HERE in the United States of America..."
You folks have local political problems, starting with your governor. After the hurricane, we sent the Arkansas National Guard into New Orleans with shoot-to-kill orders, and stabilized the situation. But we can't change your politicians.
I don't want to sound insensitive. I posted any articles and photos about Plaquemines Parish I could find after the storm because I'm concerned about the place, and it was hard to get any news from down there.
Plaquemines Parish is what it is - a sea-level marsh on the Gulf Coast. Katrina changed it forever. The next big hurricane will change it again. Let's face it - it will never be the way it was before. That's just the sad reality of the situation, and it's not the fault of the U.S.A.
One other thing - we've absorbed a huge number of displaced persons from Louisiana, and welcomed them as new Arkansans. Per capita, we've taken in more Louisianians than any other state. So we're bearing a lot of your burden already.
I'm more focused on the beauracrats than mopping up oil, and if you knew my background and current disposition, and had and compassion and understanding whatsoever, I seriously doubt you would have even asked me that question.
*Please*, read the threads, and let's see if Freep can help these people that FEMA and the beauracrats ARE FAILING...
You'd think with all the unemployed in the area, there wouldn't be a problem finding people to do the work. I'm sure there are plenty of empty barrels and mops available.
Plaquemines Parish is the heart of the US oil and Natural Gas infrastructure in the US and the marine gateway to the world for 30 US States.
300 years of development and of even more interest is the last 100 years and a LOT of infrastructure development in our oil, natural gas and chemicals infrastructure which has been developed during that time, which is definitely a matter of National Security...
Like I said just a bit ago, $6 a gallon gas and quadrupled natural gas is in your future... And I do know about the oil and gas industry...
Tennessee here and this state has also absorbed many Louisiana storm victims, as well as many other states have done. Many people got jobs, moved in with relatives in other states and will not go back to Louisiana and continue trying to live in a futile situation. People get tired after a while and just choose to live elsewhere.
We certainly need the oil and gas, but some new alternatives are opening up. Congress is moving to allow more oil drilling offshore, and a huge new shale play reserve of gas has just been found in Arkansas - bigger than Barnett.
As for the marine gateway - Seems like I heard that a new canal may be built from New Orleans to the Gulf, a new route that will bypass lower Plaquemines. That may be a more economical, storm-resistant solution than restoring the Plaquemines passages every time a storm hits.
While I do sincerely appreciate the contributions that have been made to date, abandoning the region given it's infrastructure relevance is NOT the answer.
For example, relative to your claim and others that MANY have moved and abandoned the place, the last refinery built in the US from the ground up in the 70's, the Gulf facility at Alliance in Plaquemines Parish which is now owned by ConocoPhilips, just gave their workers an approximate 30% across the board pay increase to keep them here.
I'm going to print this thread as it stands right now, so I can come back in 18-24 months when gas is $6 per gallon and natural gas has quadrupled, and I will then repost the scans and replies I received to my appeal for assistance and action as the public helplessly and futily screams and complains, and wonders why, gas is $6 per gallon...
I have to agree some with Nathan on this. I can repsect you are upset at the govt for things (they are not perfect, which is why we want to shrink em instead of grow em) but I think it would do your cause more good to say something like:
"Hey, we have the follow issues needing fixed in X area. So far pleas to govt officials have not helped so we are turning to the folks here to help us" - WHICH, btw, is a good way to say if you are for smaller govt and more folks helping each other out, this is your chance to put your money where you mouth is while also quickly summarizing the problem.
The local/state govt should take a lead on this. Local taxes, tolls, etc were used to build and maintain the infrastructure there - any federal roads, parks, etc should be handled by the feds. They can, and often do, help out on issues as well - but the state govt needs to do it's part as well.
It would also behoove the senators from the state to push to get them help (that is why you put em in office), get on talk shows, bang some pots and pans etc.
Your post seems to whine that the US govt is spending more on Iraq, et al, while not detailing in a simple way the issues so that one could focus on whose repsonsibility it is to handle them.
So let's start over. What is/are the issue/s, what is the solution you see as best, and how can we assist you in getting said solution implemented?
I have the most concern for you and the area, I think we all do. I am not sure what you want me, as an individual, to do to help out.
I dont have any more $$$ to donate, what else?
So how does increased government spending alleviate "$6.00 a gallon gas"?
It does sound as though the problem is more local as anything else. Yet Nagin, et al, were voted back in. ???
Perhaps the issue of what in LA will be restored (only to be destroyed again?) vs. what can be done to make the best of a bad situation, regroup, and rebuild in a different, better way needs to be addressed.
I know that you are frustrated and that you have been through so much. Continue to focus on what we need to do to help.
I cant come down and clean up the local politics myself, but....
By protecting the infrastructure.
No sir, the problem is your bureaucrats, a coterie of insatiable grifters all the way from Leander Perez to the present with the incompetent Gov. Gramma and the Landrieu Mafia.
As if FEMA could ever dissuade the history of
lagniappe grift that runs deep in the bone. Forget it.
I agree with you TOTALLY on the locals, and if you only knew what has been done to me in fighting these dirty people and what they do AND DID TO MY CHILDREN IN RETAILIATION FOR EXPOSING THEM.
BUT, since the citizens of this state cannot seem to come together and effectively overcome the political mafia down here (and the people are even more fractured and disorganized now), I honestly think and believe, after MUCH AND LONG study and analysis, that the Federal Government needs to do more in taking control of the situation, or giving more control to lower level people and local officials, but at the same time watching them like an extremely hungry bear or American bald eagle and when they catch them stealing or dealing, whack them as hard as they can with a Federal gavel...
With all of the problems that we have going on all over the world I wonder if LA alone could drive up the price of gas to 6$ or whatever.
You're not a citizen of the US? They're not OUR bureaucrats?
I'm leaving this thread. You tell us we have to help, we have to wind our way through link after link to find out how to help, if we don't help gas prices will go up, and blind women will be homeless. It's incoherent, or at least I'm not smart enough to understand it.
I'm not sure that almost a year after the disaster FEMA should be involved any more. I'm not sure that we shouldn't cut out losses on at least part of the port capabilities. I AM sure that if New Orleans can reelect Nagin, they can kiss my enthusiastic cooperation goodbye.
My advice, free and worth every penny, is take a deep breath, wait a day, CLEARLY articulate your concerns, your argument, and your appeal, and then try again. All you've done today is make me angry.
poobear, I go back 6 years here on Freep, and MUCH longer elsewhere, and I have responded MANY times to people in distress and crises all over this country.
Your claim to "deal with it ourselves" could have VERY easily given me a very selfish impression of Floridians, but then I am above that mentality and know better...
MANY times in the past, knowing the effects of hurricanes, the people of Plaquemines Parish have sent funds, supplies and people to hurricane stricken areas MANY times in the past, because we knew first hand...
If you'd bother to read my post Liberty, you'd know that I too am a charitable neighbor and friend. Your constant whining for more money has me and the entire nation losing interest.
Something about 'Give a man a fish and he eats for a day...'. I suggest you and the local authorities spend the federal money wisely. If LA fails to do so, this FReeper won't be the only one with harsh words for the good people of LA.
Now this guys giving me a lecture on charity. He's barking up the wrong native Floridian tree! Is there something in the water in LA? Is it really my fault the place is a natural swamp? The native Indians knew better than to build their villages there!
I am in Virginia, and have not been as close to what happened in LA last year as you have. But we have had our own disasters here too, so I have an idea....
I am still not sure what you and I are supposed to do about it now. We have a pretty lousy local political situation here, but several of the crooks (and I do mean FELONS) were just voted out.
Why cant LA vote the crooks out?
You say the local government is unable to do the right thing, so you ask the nation's help to convince the federal government to take over control of LA.
It is clear that you are on a severe pity jag. As another poster stated earlier, you need to stop, take a deep breath, wait a day or two to organize and formulate your thoughts, then try again. Because right now, your whole thread is incoherent and just plan silly.
Well, thanks all...
I hope that our discussion may have helped to crystalize your concerns. I know that there are many problems in your area. We want to help. Please feel free to ping me when you would like to talk some more.
From East Texas here.
Part of the problem you haven't had help is 2 fold. First of all, your name isn't New Orleans. Seems New Orleans was the only ones who suffered during Katrina and Rita.
Second, our politicians were in such a hurry to try to point fingers and blame the President and Mr. Brown and everyone else involved for something "mother nature" did to us. You want to know why you haven't had help, the media has forgotten you. The government has forgotten you. Because your name is not New Orleans. The politicians sitting in their DC homes have no idea what you've been through and frankly are thankful it wasn't their state that got hit.
Here in East Texas we have had our fair share of disaster from Hurricane Rita but to see the news, you'd never know. Thankfully for us in Texas, we have a great governor, senators and congressmen/women who helped us out.
Sad to say but whoever said your politicians locally are to blame, they are right.
One last thing, its hard to rebuild and cleanup when 1/2 of the residents (in Louisiana) have not returned to their homes and communities.
When New Orleans focused on Mardi Gras and it was pulled off in the fairly undamaged French Quarter most of the country thought "I guess they have it all back together down there"
New Orleans was the focus after Katrina and getting Jazz Fest running and Bourbon Street flowing was the focus of the media. It's and lot more fun to do a story with a bunch of drunks in the Quarter than with bunch of devastated fishermen (or the entire oil and gas industry in Plaquemines Parish)
WWL radio broadcasting on 50,000 watts and the internet spent a whole bunch of time discussing parade routes and who was unhappy that their "krewe" did not get to "roll" at the same schedule as in the past
You see most of the country does not understand the "culture" of New Orleans. Generally most work and complete the job before they play.
When the parties started most decided all was well
The focus of Lousiana's rebuilding should have been forced on the MSM to be oil and gas and shipping, and the commercial, economic significance of New Orleans, and the region.
The nation can understand the importance of Louisiana in shipping and oil. It has difficulty however understanding why the oil industry also needs Jazz Fest in order to pump petroleum.
On another note:
I've lived in the South for a long time and thought that Louisiana considered Mississippi, Alabama, Texas and Florida as neighbors that they would welcome to assist in the rebuilding. What many of your Southern state neighbors discovered when they showed up to help is a local and state government that fleeced the helpers. We also experienced a bunch of Louisiana residents who had the ability to pay for help but stiffed the rebuilders. There is a limit to how much free labor and materials one can provide to the destitute. Even a more severe limit you can provide those same items to the wealthy
I worked in Mississippi and Texas after Katrina and Rita and felt welcomed and appreciated. In Louisana an out of state license of a car (from Alabama even, a state that got whacked by Katrina too) is a notice that locals should screw over the occupants.
By the way my business was and still is in demand in Louisiana but I won't be going back. Attitude is everything and Louisiana has a bad one.
I wish you well, not everyone in Louisiana can possibly be like everyone I ran across while there.
Move somewhere else.