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Cell Phone Men Possibly Targeting Mackinac Bridge
WFRV.COM ^ | 13 AUGUST 2006 | AP

Posted on 08/13/2006 4:54:24 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist

(AP) DALLAS -- The wife of one of three Texas men arraigned on terrorism-related charges in Michigan says her husband and his relatives are not terrorists, but are simply trying to make money by reselling cell phones.

"They're locked up in jail for something that they didn't do," 20-year-old Lina Odeh told The Associated Press on Saturday.

Her husband, Louai Abdelhamied Othman of Mesquite, along with his brother, Adham Abdelhamid Othman of Dallas, and their cousin Maruan Awad Muhareb of Mesquite, are charged with collecting or providing materials for terrorist acts and surveillance of a vulnerable target for terrorist purposes.

Police found about 1,000 cell phones in the men's minivan. Authorities have not said what they believe the men intended to do with the phones, most of which were prepaid TracFones. But the police chief in Caro, Mich., where they were arrested, said cell phones can be used as detonators, and prosecutors in a similar case in Ohio have said that TracFones are often used by terrorists because they are not traceable.

Odeh said the men were buying the phones to sell to a man in Dallas for a profit of about $5 per phone. She said they were in Michigan because so many people in the Dallas area are doing the same thing that the phones are often sold out.

Odeh said she thought her husband and her relatives were targeted because of their Arab descent. The men's families come from Jerusalem, she said.

The men were stopped early Friday about 80 miles north of Detroit after purchasing 80 cell phones from a Wal-Mart. Police said they found about 1,000 phones in their minivan. The men were arrested Friday afternoon.

No pleas were entered at the arraignment Saturday at a District Court in Caro. A magistrate set bond at $750,000 apiece and the men were being held at the Tuscola County Jail, police said.

"All we did is buy the phones to sell and make money," Louai Othman told the magistrate. He said authorities had previously stopped the group in North Dakota, South Dakota, Minnesota and Wisconsin.

Muhareb told the magistrate: "This is a misunderstanding." He said he was selling the phones to earn money to help pay for his brother's college education.

Tuscola County Prosecutor Mark E. Reene told The Saginaw News in Michigan that investigators believe the men were targeting the Mackinac Bridge, which connects Michigan's Upper and Lower peninsulas. He declined to say what led investigators to that belief.

Reene and the FBI did not return phone messages Saturday from The Associated Press.

Odeh said the family is working to get an attorney for the men.

"I just want everyone to know that they're innocent and they shouldn't be locked up in jail without any evidence," she said.

Her husband is a college student and they have a 2-month-old baby, Odeh said.

A pretrial hearing has been set for Friday and a preliminary exam for Aug. 24.

The arrests in Michigan came three days after two men were arrested in Marietta, Ohio, where police said they aroused suspicions when they acknowledged buying about 600 phones in recent months at stores in southeast Ohio.

Ali Houssaiky and Osama Abulhassan, both 20 and from the Detroit suburb of Dearborn, have been charged with two felonies -- money laundering in support of terrorism and soliciting or providing support for acts of terrorism -- and misdemeanor falsification. A preliminary hearing on the felony counts was set for Tuesday.

Defense lawyers said Houssaiky and Abulhassan planned to resell the phones simply to make money. They say the men were targeted only because they are of Arab descent.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: carocell; cellphones; crushislam; dallas; islam; islamicfascists; islamisevil; jihadinamerica; mackinac; madmuzzies; muslim; muslims; nonterroristattack; prepaidcellphones; trop
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1 posted on 08/13/2006 4:54:25 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: LA Woman3

He said authorities had previously stopped the group in North Dakota, South Dakota, Minnesota and Wisconsin.


2 posted on 08/13/2006 4:56:20 PM PDT by Ellesu (www.thedeadpelican.com)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Odeh said the men were buying the phones to sell to a man in Dallas

I wonder if the man in Dallas has a name and if he might like to answer some questions. (if he exists at all)
3 posted on 08/13/2006 4:58:11 PM PDT by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: Ellesu

Put a PORK product on and IN everything...the plane food should all have some PORK or pork skin seats.....I am so sick of Muslims I could vomit.


4 posted on 08/13/2006 4:59:12 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kaboom"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Here's an interesting related article posted back in January...

Disposable Cell Phone Purchases a Result of NSA Leak and NY Times Story
5 posted on 08/13/2006 5:00:28 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I have a strong belief they purchased the cell phones to be used for one time communications between themselves. There is no way they could take out the bridge.


6 posted on 08/13/2006 5:00:29 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Jesus on Immigration, John 10:1)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
This looks like a job for Cell Phone Girl!!!

 

7 posted on 08/13/2006 5:01:31 PM PDT by HitmanLV ("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do succeed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
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To: GarySpFc

They wouldn't need to take out the bridge when hundreds of soft targets are going to be strolling across it on Labor Day.


8 posted on 08/13/2006 5:05:55 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: Suzy Quzy

i like that....right to the point......


9 posted on 08/13/2006 5:06:09 PM PDT by t1b8zs
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To: Suzy Quzy

10 posted on 08/13/2006 5:07:18 PM PDT by Ellesu (www.thedeadpelican.com)
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To: Suzy Quzy
PS: You wouldn't be a commodities/futures broker by any chance?
11 posted on 08/13/2006 5:07:54 PM PDT by t1b8zs
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I seem to recall after 9/11 there was a lot of activity centered around a Dallas mosque and Islamic charities. I don't remember offhand. I'll see if I can dig it up.


12 posted on 08/13/2006 5:10:19 PM PDT by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG-49) Freedom's Fortress)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Reminds me of the story about the whining from the "innocent" muslim family from Maryland whose poor husband was beset upon for surveilling the Bay Bridge. The cops confiscated a movie cam with plenty of bridge shots, also other industrial type "targets".

Apparently we infidels simply fail to appreciate the admiration of muslim males for massive bridges, power plants, water treatment facilities, tunnels, airport terminals, etc. And what passes for "entertainment" in muslim vacation videos.
13 posted on 08/13/2006 5:14:26 PM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: piasa

I don't think most people realize just how large the Mighty Mac really is. The Golden Gate bridge gets the glamor but it's just a baby compared to that big boy.

They usually have around 50 or 60 thousand bridge walkers.


14 posted on 08/13/2006 5:16:52 PM PDT by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: cripplecreek
I wonder if the man in Dallas has a name and if he might like to answer some questions. (if he exists at all)

Good question. Now, what would one guy in Dallas need with that many cell phones, what is his name and contact number, why didn't he just buy them himself, why doesn't he want the chargers, and did he ever meet el Hage?

Why was removing the batteries and getting rid of the packaging and chargers so important that the perps just had to do it while driving cross country?

And why is it the media mention the different suspected groups, but leaves out that one group was also found to have airport security information and a flight list in their vehicle?

15 posted on 08/13/2006 5:17:14 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Unless these clowns were here on permanent resident visas, any kind of employment is illegal.

I wonder what kind of penalty I would get for trying that stunt in Saudi Arabia?

16 posted on 08/13/2006 5:17:14 PM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: SpaceBar

Great catch!


17 posted on 08/13/2006 5:20:59 PM PDT by demkicker (democrats and terrorists are intimate bedfellows)
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To: neodad

I remember stories of two or three Muslims supposedly on an Amtrak train for Dallas causing the authorities some concern in the days immediately following 9/11.


18 posted on 08/13/2006 5:23:17 PM PDT by xkaydet65 (Peace, Love, Brotherhood, and Firepower. And the greatest of these is Firepower!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Image hosted by Photobucket.com no Walmarts in Texas???
19 posted on 08/13/2006 5:23:43 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
They say the men were targeted only because they are of Arab descent.

This Talking Point comes courtesy of our friends at the New York Times.

20 posted on 08/13/2006 5:26:03 PM PDT by madprof98
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To: SpaceBar
From that story:

In fact, as a result of news stories regarding suspicious disposable cell phone purchases, the American Civil Liberties Union is looking into legal action they might take to stifle law enforcement's investigation of Middle Easterners making large-quantity purchases.

21 posted on 08/13/2006 5:27:46 PM PDT by madprof98
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To: cripplecreek
September 5, 2000 65,000 step out for Big Mac walk Gov. John Engler and triplets lead walkers on state's unique Labor Day bridge tradition By JOHN FLESHER Associated Press Writer


22 posted on 08/13/2006 5:28:33 PM PDT by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb Republicans - Capt. Tom)
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To: madprof98

BUMP!


23 posted on 08/13/2006 5:29:24 PM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

We HAVE to keep an eye on the areas around our colleges and universities that have engineering, law, and medical schools. Heck, even the ones that don't!! And watch your own children't attitudes when they come home on break and at Christmas!!
They soon won't be just 'descent' people, they will be our own, just like the kid that blew himself up at the OU game last year, his roomate was Pakistani.


24 posted on 08/13/2006 5:33:32 PM PDT by Mrs. Shawnlaw (No NAIS! And the USDA can bugger off, too!)
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To: cripplecreek
"I wonder if the man in Dallas has a name and if he might like to answer some questions. (if he exists at all)"

I wonder if he is the same guy who dropped $60,000 in Dallas in just two trips back in November. And if so, what is he doing with them.

Since they are all middle eastern, my guess is that they are:


25 posted on 08/13/2006 5:37:38 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: GarySpFc
"She said they were in Michigan because so many people in the Dallas area are doing the same thing that the phones are often sold out"

There aren't any Wal*Marts in Arkansas?

26 posted on 08/13/2006 5:40:01 PM PDT by Paladin2 (If the political indictment's from Fitz, the jury always acquits.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

So what were the other 999+ targets?


27 posted on 08/13/2006 5:44:41 PM PDT by GeronL (http://www.mises.org/story/1975 <--no such thing as a fairtax)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I remember a similar story a few years ago about huge purchases of baby formula @ Costco.


28 posted on 08/13/2006 5:44:45 PM PDT by AlexandriaDuke (Conservatives want freedom. Republicans want power.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
If selling cel phones is what they do then they should have some sort of a record of past sales made, that would clear them. In the mean time while the investigation goes on they fit do the profile and were buying phones in suspicious numbers. The police are doing the right thing.
29 posted on 08/13/2006 5:51:00 PM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: cripplecreek
They usually have around 50 or 60 thousand bridge walkers.

Maybe not so many this year, though, huh? This kind of publicity could stifle people's bridgewalking urges.

30 posted on 08/13/2006 6:00:11 PM PDT by Migraine (...diversity is great (until it happens to you)...)
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To: neodad

Holy Land Foundation, Richardson (Dalls 'burb), TX. Also a hi-tech company owner (muslim)convicted of illegal export of computers or something, same location.


31 posted on 08/13/2006 6:00:17 PM PDT by 1066AD
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To: piasa

Good questions.


32 posted on 08/13/2006 6:04:21 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: DannyTN
Making domestic bombs

I'd be surprised if they had the materials to make a thousand bombs that they planned to detonate remotely. I guess if each bomb were small and well-placed, they could do a great deal of damage this way, but I think there's more to the story.

Sending them oversees to terrorists there

I thought that cell phones on other continents used a slightly different kind of signal. I've heard that most cell phones that people use over here wouldn't work over there. Our company has folks who travel to Europe a bit, and I think I've heard of some people getting special cell phones for that travel.

Or using them for communications for dope and illegals smuggling from Mexico.

This idea seems very plausible.

Bill

33 posted on 08/13/2006 6:36:36 PM PDT by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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To: DannyTN

I read somewhere that an ingredient in the battery is used to process meth-amphetimine--the phone had prepaid minutes on them--so after using the minutes they could recycle the batteries for drugs and use the money to fund terrorism--they seem to be working awfully hard to make $5.00 a phone.


34 posted on 08/13/2006 6:39:29 PM PDT by foreshadowed at waco
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To: 1066AD

Computer company was Infotech of Richarson, but there were two companies with almost the same name back in the 90's in Dallas. I worked for the one that was the "good" company.

This Infotech sold computer classroom training, dabbled in imports and did anything to make a buck. People used to call us all the time to see if we could fix their problem (and there were a lot of complaints) with the other Infotech.

Something about this story doesn't add up. Fisrt, they are not supposed to have a job, even be self-employed, if they are on a green card or have a student visa. Second, why isn't the IRS all over them for tax evasion?

If they bought 1,000 phones for a $5 profit, then they would make $5,000 - LESS EXPENSES. How in the world is traveling all over the country going to net any of them much profit? Maybe if they purchased the phones with stolen credit cards?

Strange. More here than meets the eye.


35 posted on 08/13/2006 6:47:12 PM PDT by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120))
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To: WFTR

If they can buy a 1000 phones 3 at a time. I don't see why they couldn't acquire the other materials.


36 posted on 08/13/2006 7:11:00 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: WFTR

And if they were hispanic instead of middle eastern, I'd be more likely to believe the dope/illegal smuggling myself.


37 posted on 08/13/2006 7:11:52 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
The perps' excuse is pretty lame.

Where is the market for people paying a $5.00 premium for a cell phone being sold by Achmed Aliatollah Khumenia,Hazbolla Scumbaga Camelballa?

38 posted on 08/13/2006 7:13:33 PM PDT by Cobra64 (All we get are lame ideas from Republicans and lame criticism from dems about those lame ideas.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist; Ellesu
To re-sell for a profit margin. Travelling the blue highways across at least eight states to do it.

They must have one heck of a discount card for gas though. LOL

39 posted on 08/13/2006 7:14:16 PM PDT by Peter Libra
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To: Suzy Quzy
Put a PORK product on and IN everything...the plane food should all have some PORK or pork skin seats.....I am so sick of Muslims I could vomit.

What would you do if you met a muslim?

40 posted on 08/13/2006 7:15:12 PM PDT by Cobra64 (All we get are lame ideas from Republicans and lame criticism from dems about those lame ideas.)
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To: GarySpFc
I have a strong belief they purchased the cell phones to be used for one time communications between themselves. There is no way they could take out the bridge.

Depends on the number of charges. Sat 50 charges with 50 cell phones as detonators. One call gets all. BANG x 50.

41 posted on 08/13/2006 7:17:09 PM PDT by Cobra64 (All we get are lame ideas from Republicans and lame criticism from dems about those lame ideas.)
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To: Cobra64
"What would you do if you met a muslim?"

While I was going to St. Ives,
I met a Muz with seven wives.
Seven wives with seven brats,
Seven brats with seven gats.
Seven gats with seven slugs.
Slugs, gats, brats, wives...

How long before CAIR cries, "PROFILING!"
42 posted on 08/13/2006 7:24:27 PM PDT by Panzerlied ("We shall never surrender!")
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

They need to provide the police with the information about recent buyers of those cell phones, if they want to be believed.


43 posted on 08/13/2006 7:25:53 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Seems funny that with hundred of cell phones in their possession they hadn't sold any.
44 posted on 08/13/2006 7:33:55 PM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir wölle bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Get them for failure to submit quarterly tax payments for the profit he made doing work for the prophet.


45 posted on 08/13/2006 7:54:20 PM PDT by HighWheeler (Whenever a Kennedy is piloting a vehicle near water, someone is going to die.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist; rintense

"....the men were targeting the Mackinac Bridge,..."


There is an annual "free day" when pedestrian are allowed to walk the Mac. It is on Labor Day every year, and over 40,000 people show up for the event. What a target.


46 posted on 08/13/2006 7:58:49 PM PDT by HighWheeler (Whenever a Kennedy is piloting a vehicle near water, someone is going to die.)
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To: t1b8zs

Pork Bellies For ALL!!


47 posted on 08/13/2006 7:59:13 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kaboom"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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To: Publius6961
>"I wonder what kind of penalty I would get for trying that stunt in Saudi Arabia?"

That depends, did you let them shred your bible when you entered their country?

It's time to perform our Christianly duties of showing the same respect they show us!

BAN THE KORAN!!

48 posted on 08/13/2006 8:05:34 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (I'd rather be carrying a shotgun with Dick, than riding shotgun with a Kennedyl! *-0(:~{>)
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To: Cobra64

50 charges will not take out THAT bridge.


49 posted on 08/13/2006 9:57:40 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Jesus on Immigration, John 10:1)
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To: GarySpFc

We are holding up a giant screen against a bunch of mad hornets, eventually a few of them are going to sneak through. it is only a matter of when...the next terrorist attack is 100% likely.

I pray to God that I am wrong.


50 posted on 08/13/2006 11:58:09 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative (If you love peace more than you love freedom, you are bound to be left hopeless with neither one)
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