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Russia fires on Japanese boat, one dead(who is encroaching whose territory?)
AAP ^ | 08/16/06

Posted on 08/15/2006 11:14:44 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

Russia fires on Japanese boat, one dead

A Japanese fisherman died after a Russian border patrol boat fired on a fishing boat east of Japan's northernmost main island of Hokkaido, Japanese Coast Guard officials said on Wednesday.

Tokyo was likely to protest the "excessive use of force" once the circumstances had been clarified, a government source said.

Fishing disputes are common in the area, and Russian border patrols often try to capture Japanese fishermen. But the last time a Japanese fisherman was shot dead by a Soviet vessel was nearly 50 years ago, in October 1956, Japanese officials said.

"Seizures of Japanese fishing boats by Russia in the waters are not rare, but shooting is very rare," a Japanese Coast Guard official said.

The 4.9-tonne Japanese crab boat with four fishermen on board was in disputed waters between Japan and Russia when a Russian border guard opened fire, another Japanese Coast Guard official said.

"We received a report that the fishing boat was fired on and one of the four fishermen was dead," he said.

This official, citing information from Russian authorities, said the Russian border patrol had seized the Japanese fishing boat before firing.

The Russians then took the Japanese boat and the fishermen to one of four nearby islands claimed by both Russia and Japan, the official said.

The Japanese Coast Guard sent two patrol boats to the scene of the incident to gather information, he said.

The Japanese prime minister's office set up an information task force within its crisis management unit to deal with the incident.

"We are going to investigate what happened, what action the fishing boat was engaged in," the Japanese government source said. "When everything has been made clearer, I think the Japanese government is going to make a protest about the excessive use of force."

Japan and Russia have been locked in a long-running dispute over the islands, known as the Northern Territories in Japan and Southern Kuriles in Russia.

The simmering feud has prevented Moscow and Tokyo from signing a peace treaty more than 60 years after the end of World War Two.

The four islands, as close as 15 km (9 miles) from Hokkaido, were seized by the Soviet Union at the end of the war in 1945, forcing about 17,000 Japanese residents to flee.

Russia has said it is willing to hand over two islands but Japan insists that all four must be returned.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Japan; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: death; fishingboat; geopolitics; hokkaido; japan; russia; shooting
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Abe Shinzo, the undisputed champion of Japanese Right, is about to swear in as Japanese Prime Minister and this happens. Does Russia also want a piece of action, as Chia Head did?

Abe can stoke extra flame out of this to add more momentum for constitutional change.

Maybe Hu Jintao should apologize to Abe Shinzo on behalf of Vlad Putin. /sarc China has most to lose if this kind of thing gets out of control.

1 posted on 08/15/2006 11:14:46 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; sushiman; Ronin; AmericanInTokyo; gaijin; struggle; DTogo; GATOR NAVY; Iris7; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 08/15/2006 11:15:14 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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Does Russia also want a piece of action, as Chia Head did?

Considering that Russia owns the islands and Japan gave up all claim to them, Taiwan and some other islands in 1951 ... I'd say Russia is just defending her territory.

3 posted on 08/15/2006 11:17:38 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Islam is a subsingularity memetic perversion : (http://www.orionsarm.com/topics/perversities.html))
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The Japanese and the Russians have been fighting over these islands for about 500 years.

My guess is they'll be fighting over them 500 years from now.

L

4 posted on 08/15/2006 11:18:10 PM PDT by Lurker (I support Israel without reservation. Hizbollah must be destroyed to the last man.)
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To: Centurion2000

was it disproportionate?


5 posted on 08/15/2006 11:18:41 PM PDT by GeronL (flogerloon.blogspot.com -------------> Rise of the Hate Party)
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Kofi Annan already blamed Israel for this.


6 posted on 08/15/2006 11:20:15 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

The Japanese were fishing in somebody else's territory. Again. Good for the Russians. It's about time somebody shot one of those thieves.


7 posted on 08/15/2006 11:22:58 PM PDT by wyattearp (Study! Study! Study! Or BONK, BONK, on the head!)
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To: GeronL

If someone pulls up to the US waters and does not pull over for a Coast Guard inspection and then tries to flee .... they are going to get shot at.


8 posted on 08/15/2006 11:24:28 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Islam is a subsingularity memetic perversion : (http://www.orionsarm.com/topics/perversities.html))
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Kofi Annan already blamed Israel for this.

And will end up to be Bush's Fault!

9 posted on 08/15/2006 11:24:29 PM PDT by ChristianDefender (Never Give Your Enemy (ROP) A Foothold.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Aw...come on Russia...just because so many others are fighting and killing people...don't act as if no one is paying attention to YOU these days. Sheesh.


10 posted on 08/15/2006 11:24:54 PM PDT by NordP (America: There are more Patriots than Punks!)
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To: wyattearp

Wow, a nation that takes its border security seriously. Can we trade Bush for Putin?


11 posted on 08/15/2006 11:25:02 PM PDT by Bushwacker777
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Thank you SO much for the belly laugh before bed. ROTFLOL


12 posted on 08/15/2006 11:25:56 PM PDT by NordP (America: There are more Patriots than Punks!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

The people in that area have long memories about WW II. For instance, the Japanese PM just made another pilgimmage to honor WW II Japanese dead at a famous shrine, which caused controversy esp. in China.


13 posted on 08/15/2006 11:26:03 PM PDT by Ciexyz (Leaning on the everlasting arms.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Earlier thread on this here: (thread)
14 posted on 08/15/2006 11:27:07 PM PDT by wyattearp (Study! Study! Study! Or BONK, BONK, on the head!)
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Re #3

It would have worked in the past. However, things are not the same anymore. So-called 'northern islands' is another emotional issue politicians can tap on.

As far as I know, Soviet Union took them because it rings around the entrance to Sea of Okhotsk.

15 posted on 08/15/2006 11:27:35 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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I don't see where that would be any better.

(don't see where it would be any worse, either)


16 posted on 08/15/2006 11:28:52 PM PDT by wyattearp (Study! Study! Study! Or BONK, BONK, on the head!)
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As far as I know, Soviet Union took them because it rings around the entrance to Sea of Okhotsk.

They didn't "take" them. Japan surrendered them in the treaty of San Francisco, in 1951. It is NOT Japanese territory. Then again, I think that the treaty says that those islands are ours. :-)

17 posted on 08/15/2006 11:31:01 PM PDT by wyattearp (Study! Study! Study! Or BONK, BONK, on the head!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

The Location of The Incident


18 posted on 08/15/2006 11:31:24 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster

The sea of Okhotsk is no place to muck around.
That said, the Russkies are protecting something if they took this action


19 posted on 08/15/2006 11:33:00 PM PDT by mylife (the roar of the masses could be farts)
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Aw...come on Russia...just because so many others are fighting and killing people...don't act as if no one is paying attention to YOU these days. Sheesh.

Um... They're protecting their borders... Ahem...

20 posted on 08/15/2006 11:33:46 PM PDT by wyattearp (Study! Study! Study! Or BONK, BONK, on the head!)
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