Palestinian? Pure Fiction. No Such thing, nor people

Thanks.

Great Read!

Even the Arab Palestinians in the Eastern section of Jerusalem want Israeli citizenship

The Arab League passed an edict that tells Arab states that they are not to offer citizenship to Palestinians. The Israel is the only country in the region that offers citizenship to Palestinians.

Do they have a unique...

- language?
- culture?
- cuisine?
- money?
- style of dress?
- religion?
- appearance?
- history?
- government?

The Pennsylvania Dutch are a more unique people and have more of a claim to statehood than the so-called "Palestinians" do.

More of DEKBA's zany inventions (like the rest of the article). ------------------------------------------

Astonished by the ease with which you dismiss historically true FACTS and try to discredit them by allocating them to DEBKA as the source - which they are not, I looked up your location - SINGAPORE.

Says it all Mr. "Locke". You discredit yourself, not easily checked facts.

The "Palestinians" are a people created around a terror movement. It was created by the KGB tool, Arafart.

Alan has added the article you posted to his post on AntiMullah so it will be seen by a worldwide audience.

EXCELLENT read. I'll be emailing this thing around.

Thanks!

This is interesting. It reminded me of a conversation I had with an interesting civilian I met while serving overseas. Let me share the story. – In a bar I was approached by a woman who was interested in my accent. She asked where I was from. – her accent sounding very much like mine. I said "America, where are you from?" She replied, "no really, where are you from?" I thought it was odd that she would repeat herself and she was forcing me to do the same… Giving her the benefit of doubt I said, "seriously, I’m from America, I’m American". I’d been in that country a long time and had picked up a modicum of the local accent; I was thinking --- maybe she thought I was local but well traveled ---. She said, "No, you’re North American like me. I’m Canadian" and in a snotty sort of way, she said "I’ve never understood why people from the U.S. claim the entire Western hemisphere as their homeland." I quickly overlooked her snotty attitude and we began discussing national identity as well as U.S.-Canada relations. All in all, it was an enjoyable experience. Her snotty intro was trite but forgivable. I’m familiar and even comfortable with such folks. On many occasions I’ve overlooked an individual’s self aggrandizement in order to separate wheat from chaff, if you know what I mean. Some people boost their own confidence by emphasizing their importance while touting the insignificance of others. C’est la vi - Not everyone was born with high self esteem...

Personal shortcomings aside, this work has a problem with its major premise. It’s exactly the same as the problem with my Canadian’s argument. She was right but I’m not going to stop identifying myself as American. Honestly, who the hell cares that she was right? Identity is not so easily forged or dismantled by waving around the truth. Another point to back me up… Steven Colbert pointed out about a week ago that the Constitution clearly says – "We the People of the United States" – suggesting that the citizens of Washington DC (A district not a state) are not Americans. It was absurdly funny, but absurd.

This work has another problem in that the "Holy Land" has a long and turbulent history. Setting that aside - What should be clear to everyone is that position is 9/10th of the law. Who ever has it now, owns it! Done! There are those that can’t deal with that. There are a number of groups and experts that selectively parade their version of the region’s history to feed their agenda. There is no value in that, only more bloodshed.

Israel - PALESTINE BETWEEN THE ROMANS AND MODERN TIMES

As a geographic unit, Palestine extended from the Mediterranean on the west to the Arabian Desert on the east and from the lower Litani River in the north to the Gaza Valley in the south. It was named after the Philistines, who occupied the southern coastal region in the twelfth century B.C. The name Philistia was used in the second century A.D. to designate Syria Palestina, which formed the southern third of the Roman province of Syria.

Emperor Constantine (ca. 280-337) shifted his capital from Rome to Constantinople in 330 and made Christianity the official religion. With Constantine's conversion to Christianity, a new era of prosperity came to Palestine, which attracted a flood of pilgrims from all over the empire. Upon partition of the Roman Empire in 395, Palestine passed under eastern control. The scholarly Jewish communities in Galilee continued with varying fortunes under Byzantine rule and dominant Christian influence until the Arab-Muslim conquest of A.D. 638. The period included, however, strong Jewish support of the briefly successful Persian invasion of 610-14.

The Arab caliph, Umar, designated Jerusalem as the third holiest place in Islam, second only to Mecca and Medina. Under the Umayyads, based in Damascus, the Dome of the Rock was erected in 691 on the site of the Temple of Solomon, which was also the alleged nocturnal resting place of the Prophet Muhammad on his journey to heaven. It is the earliest Muslim monument still extant. Close to the shrine, to the south, the Al Aqsa Mosque was built. The Umayyad caliph, Umar II (717-720), imposed humiliating restrictions on his non-Muslim subjects that led many to convert to Islam. These conversions, in addition to a steady tribal flow from the desert, changed the religious character of the inhabitants of Palestine from Christian to Muslim. Under the Abbasids the process of Islamization gained added momentum as a result of further restrictions imposed on non-Muslims by Harun ar Rashid (786-809) and more particularly by Al Mutawakkil (847-61).

The Abbasids were followed by the Fatimids who faced frequent attacks from Qarmatians, Seljuks, and Byzantines, and periodic beduin opposition. Palestine was reduced to a battlefield. In 1071 the Seljuks captured Jerusalem. The Fatimids recaptured the city in 1098, only to deliver it a year later to a new enemy, the Crusaders of Western Europe. In 1100 the Crusaders established the Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem, which remained until the famous Muslim general Salah ad Din (Saladin) defeated them at the decisive Battle of Hattin in 1187. The Crusaders were not completely evicted from Palestine, however, until 1291 when they were driven out of Acre. The fourteenth and fifteenth centuries were a "dark age" for Palestine as a result of Mamluk misrule and the spread of several epidemics. The Mamluks were slave-soldiers who established a dynasty that ruled Egypt and Syria, which included Palestine, from 1250 to 1516.

In 1516 the Ottoman Turks, led by Sultan Selim I, routed the Mamluks, and Palestine began four centuries under Ottoman domination. Under the Ottomans, Palestine continued to be linked administratively to Damascus until 1830, when it was placed under Sidon, then under Acre, then once again under Damascus. In 1887-88 the local governmental units of the Ottoman Empire were finally settled, and Palestine was divided into the administrative divisions (sing., mutasarrifiyah) of Nabulus and Acre, both of which were linked with the vilayet (largest Ottoman administrative division, similar to a province) of Beirut and the autonomous mutasarrifiyah of Jerusalem, which dealt directly with Constantinople.

For the first three centuries of Ottoman rule, Palestine was relatively insulated from outside influences. At the end of the eighteenth century, Napoleon's abortive attempt to establish a Middle East empire led to increased Western involvement in Palestine. The trend toward Western influence accelerated during the nine years (1831-40) that the Egyptian viceroy Muhammad Ali and his son Ibrahim ruled Palestine. The Ottomans returned to power in 1840 with the help of the British, Austrians, and Russians. For the remainder of the nineteenth century, Palestine, despite the growth of Christian missionary schools and the establishment of European consulates, remained a mainly rural, poor but self-sufficient, introverted society. Demographically its population was overwhelmingly Arab, mainly Muslim, but with an important Christian merchant and professional class residing in the cities. The Jewish population of Palestine before 1880 consisted of fewer than 25,000 people, two-thirds of whom lived in Jerusalem where they made up half the population (and from 1890 on more than half the population). These were Orthodox Jews (see Glossary), many of whom had immigrated to Palestine simply to be buried in the Holy Land, and who had no real political interest in establishing a Jewish entity. They were supported by alms given by world Jewry.

Is Rania of Jordan (married to Abdullah) a Palestinian?

Call King Abdullah a Palestinian and he will have you shot. The Jordanian monarchy descends from the desert Bedouin tribes and are related to or part of the Saudi royal family. And are in fact a branch of it that had disputes so the British (Glubb Pasha?) created and gave them Jordan as their own kingdom.

"Call King Abdullah a Palestinian and he will have you shot"

Ouch! I'm dead! Did not ask about "King Abdullah".

My post #34: I asked if his wife 'Rania' was Palestinian?

I must have some hit'person' after me by now!

Next to global warming, this is one of the greatest hoaxes ever perpetrated on humanity.

"The Jordanian monarchy descends from the desert Bedouin tribes and are related to or part of the Saudi royal family. And are in fact a branch of it that had disputes so the British (Glubb Pasha?) created and gave them Jordan as their own kingdom."

You know, my last post was, somewhat, tongue in cheek and the same slightly applies to this one.

"Lawrence of Arabia", the movie, somewhat, summarizes your explanation above in quotes, at least, in geography and colonial history as it were - minus 'Lawrence', of course !

The Jordanians and the House of Saud are naturally very interesting.

I lost that link when my computers crashed!! THANKS!!!

..in fact, didn't I send YOU to that link first??