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ISRAEL'S FOLLY -- Land For Peace? Who Were The Elites Kidding?
http://www.iconoclast.ca/NewPage16.asp ^

Posted on 08/16/2006 7:05:51 AM PDT by Apolitical

We must ask already now: What happened to us? What the hell happened to us?

A simple thing happened: We were drugged by political correctness. The political correctness that has come to dominate Israeli discourse and Israeli awareness in the past generation was totally divorced from the Israeli situation. It did not have the tools to deal with the reality of an existential conflict. It did not have the tools to deal with a reality of an inter-religious and inter-cultural conflict. That is why it focused entirely on the Palestinian issue. It made the baseless assumption that the occupation is the source of evil. It assumed that it is the occupation that is preventing peace and causing unrest and perpetuating the instability.............

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TOPICS: Editorial; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; Philosophy; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: appeasement; foolsgold; holocaust2; illusion; suicide
Whether anyone wants to acknowledge it or not, Israel's capitulation to the "ceasefire" terms is a great defeat for that nation -- one that could ultimately result in the complete dismantlement of the Jewish state, and the beginning of the new global Islamist/Irani tyrannical caliphate.

I wouldn't like to be a Christian living in Europe (especially Spain) a couple of decades from now.

At this point, we are certainly losing the battle of civilizations to the Islamist foe -- mostly thanks to the elitist fifth column of professors, journalists and left-lib politicos who dominate the prevailing politically-correct zeitgeist of Western Europe and North America.

What a downer!!!!!!!!!!!1

1 posted on 08/16/2006 7:05:53 AM PDT by Apolitical
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To: Apolitical
Land For Peace? Who Were The Elites Kidding?

They were kidding the sheeple out there...and it worked! The Elites pulled another one off.

Also, the elites are being very successful in kidding everyone about global warming. People are going for it hook, line and sinker.

2 posted on 08/16/2006 7:11:22 AM PDT by frogjerk (REUTERS: We give smoke and mirrors a bad name)
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To: Apolitical
I wouldn't like to be a Christian living in Europe (especially Spain) a couple of decades from now.

There are Christians in Europe?

3 posted on 08/16/2006 7:12:23 AM PDT by frogjerk (REUTERS: We give smoke and mirrors a bad name)
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To: Apolitical
Israeli tanks have stopped their withdrawal from Lebanon.
4 posted on 08/16/2006 7:15:19 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: Apolitical

I'll tell you what happened to Israel.

Cable TV. The Internet. Civilization.

Westerners want to live a normal life. To pursue happiness.

The psyche can just not accept 24/7 that others want you dead.

So you begin to rationalize. To hope. To pretend. You begin to act in a way that will show today's enemy that you could all be friends. So you concede. Show your open palm.

But the enemy doesn't change. It still wants you dead. And when it sees you weak it attacks.

And you, the civilized, are at a disadvantage.


5 posted on 08/16/2006 7:16:55 AM PDT by Sabramerican (Bush Doctrine- Old: Fight terrorists. New: Cease fire with terrorists.)
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To: frogjerk

If the islamists were to get all of Israel's land, they would then turn out after the "occupied muslim lands" covering most of europe, as well as go after the rest of the west.

Imposition of worldwide Sharia law is their aim. They are going to fight until they either get that accomplished or they are dead.

I vote for door number two.


7 posted on 08/16/2006 7:20:59 AM PDT by 308MBR ( "She pulled up her petticoat, and I pulled out for Tulsa!" Abstinence training from Bob Wills.)
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To: Individual Rights in NJ

One nukular bumb.


9 posted on 08/16/2006 7:26:23 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Peace In Our TimeŽ)
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To: frogjerk
I was very concerned when I realized that Clintonistas went to Israel to influence their elections so Bill could get his nobel prize. so, they got this warroom propaganda nonsense. They ought to outlaw foreign interferance.

This is true of us too, "Instead of being constructive elites, in the past generation the Israeli elites have become dismantling elites>" It is all part of deconstruction which the pope traces back through multiculturalism and relativism to Nietsche and his proclamation that God is dead. nihilism.

11 posted on 08/16/2006 7:31:14 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: Sabramerican

That was really well stated. You've got it exactly right.


12 posted on 08/16/2006 7:31:25 AM PDT by freeperfromnj
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To: Individual Rights in NJ

"Follow the Moores". So now we know why Michael is so rabidly anti-Bush!


13 posted on 08/16/2006 7:36:44 AM PDT by milagro
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To: Individual Rights in NJ

I've been thinking that for us (and Israel) war now is cheaper than war later. As time goes on our enemies get stronger and the cost in lives and materiel to beat them will keep increasing.

I think it's like bear baiting. The Romans used to have a game where they would put two or more dogs up against a bear. One would distract it while the others would dart in and take bites. Eventually the bear would become so exhausted, dispirited, and confused that they would be able to take it out. It didn't always work, and sometimes the dogs would get mauled, but sometimes it did.


14 posted on 08/16/2006 8:14:20 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Peace In Our TimeŽ)
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To: Apolitical
We were drugged by political correctness

"Were"? What's changed?

15 posted on 08/16/2006 8:19:02 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy
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To: Sabramerican
Cable TV. The Internet. Civilization.

In our home school, we call it "Fat, Dumb, and Happy Disease," the bane of every successful civilization throughout history.

The psyche can just not accept 24/7 that others want you dead.

The people who founded Israel had little to lose. They understood the stakes in life and had no problem embracing the risks they had to take. That Isrealis cannot accept it now, in their current secular socialist state of mind, is obvious. Sadly, the cause of that shift isn't so obvious to them. Even more obscure is what it will take to fix it: turning back to G-d.

But the enemy doesn't change. It still wants you dead. And when it sees you weak it attacks.

Correct, Islam is a violent and destructive idealogy, cohesed by substituting obsession for faith, praying for conquest five times a day. They must be defeated.

16 posted on 08/16/2006 8:38:11 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The fourth estate is the fifth column.)
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To: Carry_Okie
substituting obsession for faith

On that exact topic. Where are the next Jihadist?

17 posted on 08/16/2006 8:52:38 AM PDT by Sabramerican (Bush Doctrine- Old: Fight terrorists. New: Cease fire with terrorists.)
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