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Teen with cancer can forgo chemotherapy
Associated Press ^ | 08/16/06

Posted on 08/16/2006 8:08:37 AM PDT by presidio9

A 16-year-old cancer patient 's legal fight ended in victory Wednesday when his family's attorneys and social services officials reached an agreement that would allow him to forgo chemotherapy.

At the start of what was scheduled to be a two-day hearing, Accomack County Circuit Judge Glen A. Tyler announced that both sides had reached a consent decree, which Tyler approved.

Under the decree, Starchild Abraham Cherrix, who is battling Hodgkin's disease, will be treated by an oncologist of his choice who is board-certified in radiation therapy and interested in alternative treatments. The family must provide the court updates on Abraham's treatment and condition every three months until he's cured or turns 18.

Tyler emphasized that the decree states that the parents weren't medically neglectful.

Abraham saw the doctor last week, and defense attorneys told the judge that the doctor has indicated that he thinks that Abraham can be cured.

After the short hearing, the judge looked at Abraham and said, "God bless you, Mr. Cherrix."

Last summer, the teen was diagnosed with Hodgkin's disease, a cancer of the lymphatic system considered very treatable in its early stages. He was so debilitated by three months of chemotherapy that he declined a second, more intensive round that doctors recommended early this year.

He since has been using an alternative herbal treatment called the Hoxsey method, the sale of which was banned in the United States in 1960.

After Abraham chose to go on the sugar-free, organic diet and take liquid herbal supplements under the supervision of a Mexican clinic, a social worker asked a juvenile court judge to intervene to protect the teen's health. Last month, the judge found Abraham's parents neglectful and ordered Abraham to report to a hospital for treatment as doctors deem necessary.

Lawyers for the family appealed, and an Accomack County Circuit Court judge suspended that order and scheduled a new trial to settle the dispute. The judge scheduled the trial for two days but has indicated he would like to finish in one, said John Stepanovich, a lawyer for the parents.

Abraham is still on the Hoxsey method, but Stepanovich stressed that the family hasn't ruled out other possible treatments, such as immunotherapy or radiation treatment in small doses.

According to the American Cancer Society, there is no scientific evidence that Hoxsey is effective in treating cancer in people. The herbal treatment is illegal in the United States but can be obtained through clinics in Mexico, and some U.S. naturopathic practitioners use adapted versions of the formula.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 714x; alternativemedicine; bigbrother; billybest; cancer; deathculture; govwatch; health; healthcare; hodgkinsdisease; homeopathy; medicine; nannystate; ruling; teens
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1 posted on 08/16/2006 8:08:39 AM PDT by presidio9
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To: presidio9

Starchild...interesting


2 posted on 08/16/2006 8:11:10 AM PDT by RushCrush (I like pit bulls better than Democrats.)
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To: presidio9

Good. He shouldn't have been forced to go through chemo a second time. I hope they find something that will cure him.


3 posted on 08/16/2006 8:15:42 AM PDT by Blogger (http://www.propheteuon.com)
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To: presidio9

How generous of the state to allow him a conditional go at his favored medical treatment.


4 posted on 08/16/2006 8:15:54 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Islam delenda est)
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To: presidio9; Gabz

It's the parents' choice what treatment to use since Abraham is under 18. Period. The county needs to butt out.

Interestingly enough, I didn't know the kid had the weird first name, but I heard him interviewed on Hannity and he's a very well-spoken young man. He and his parents researched the alternatives and mutually agreed on this particular type of treatment, and so far, it seems to be working--or at least he's not getting any worse.

Gabz, this is in your neck of the woods, isn't it?

}:-)4


5 posted on 08/16/2006 8:16:25 AM PDT by Moose4 (Dirka dirka Mohammed jihad.)
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To: presidio9
I don't believe that people or kids for that matter if they are of sound mind should be FORCED to undergo chemo or radiation.

I have M.S.. I don't inject myself everyday with the "ABC" drugs or Reibif (sp). I went alternative and watch my diet. It's working. The MRI's PROVE it has not progressed and in REMISSION. Had I gone the chemical route I'd have to constantly have liver panels done and my hormonal system would be all screwed up. You do have to be careful when dealing with alternative - natural therapy. There are incompetent people just as there are with what has now morphed into the "traditional" route - the synthetic army.
6 posted on 08/16/2006 8:18:21 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: presidio9
VINO..
I respect this child's feelings but quite honestly, he and his parents are throwing away the only chance he has for recovery from his illness.

He'll be dead in a year.

7 posted on 08/16/2006 8:19:47 AM PDT by evad
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To: presidio9

I agree the choice is his and his parents, no one else's. I'm sure if the treatment he is on now is showing no improvement they will make the wise decision to do radiation or chemo again should need be to save his life. For now leave the boy alone and let them seek help however they so choose.


8 posted on 08/16/2006 8:19:51 AM PDT by Halls (One Proud Texas Momma!!)
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To: presidio9

Great news! I pray for Starchild's complete recovery.


9 posted on 08/16/2006 8:22:14 AM PDT by 1 spark
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To: Moose4; Gabz; presidio9
I heard him on Hannity, too, and I think he's exceptionally adult in his perspectives. If he's terminal - and we all are - he should live as he chooses so long as he causes no harm to others and breaks no laws. The exception would have been had he illegally refused chemo.
10 posted on 08/16/2006 8:22:38 AM PDT by Froufrou
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To: Froufrou

How does one illegally refuse chemo as opposed to what this kid is doing?


11 posted on 08/16/2006 8:24:08 AM PDT by RushCrush (I like pit bulls better than Democrats.)
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To: nmh
I have M.S.. I don't inject myself everyday with the "ABC" drugs or Reibif (sp). I went alternative and watch my diet.

What you put into your body is one of the most important factors in health, but for the most part Western Medicine does not believe in diet. I guess they don't believe patients can actually stick to a strict diet and instead rely on presribing pills and treatments for everything.

12 posted on 08/16/2006 8:25:40 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: evad

That's a bit extreme. He has already under one round of chemotherapy, and is to be treated by an oncologist who is board-certified in radiation therapy, and has indicated he may undergo radiation therapy and/or immunotherapy. Yes, he might be dead within a year, but it's far from certain, and more chemotherapy wouldn't be a guarantee either, especially since he had an especially bad reaction to it the first time. Quality of life matters, and it's not clear that he won't get more of that by going his chosen route, even though he'd very likely get more quantity of life with the chemotherapy.


13 posted on 08/16/2006 8:27:53 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: presidio9
Last month, the judge found Abraham's parents neglectful and ordered Abraham to report to a hospital for treatment as doctors deem necessary.

The Criminal Justice System. Doing your thinking so you don't have to!
14 posted on 08/16/2006 8:28:22 AM PDT by JamesP81 ("Never let your schooling interfere with your education" --Mark Twain)
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To: Moose4

Yes, Moose, this is my neck of the woods.

Accomack County Social Services is devil incarnate as far as I'm concerned. They are also hypocrites. I'm aware of a case a few years ago where AC social workers offered to help a 15 year old get an abortion, without her parents knowing about it.

As to the young man's first name, it is possible it is a family name. On one of the other threads about this case it was brought up that Starchild is a common last name in some parts of Virginia, and giving a child a family name is not an uncommon practice.

I'm glad to see some common sense in the outcome of this for him and his family.


15 posted on 08/16/2006 8:29:07 AM PDT by Gabz (Taxaholism, the disease you elect to have (TY xcamel))
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To: nmh
I don't believe that people or kids for that matter if they are of sound mind should be FORCED to undergo chemo or radiation.

Nobody of sound mind should be forced to undergo anything, period. Those decisions are his to make, and the intendant consequences are his to deal with. Court involvement is a travesty of American freedom.
16 posted on 08/16/2006 8:30:33 AM PDT by JamesP81 ("Never let your schooling interfere with your education" --Mark Twain)
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To: presidio9

If a 16 year old wanted an abortion, the left would citing the right to privacy and that 'nobody can tell you what to do with your own body.'

It seems abortion gets favored treatment when it comes to privacy.


17 posted on 08/16/2006 8:30:49 AM PDT by Mr. Brightside
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To: RushCrush
Starchild...interesting

Might be a family name.

I posted on a thread a few weeks ago that there are three families with surname 'Starchild' listed as living in VA in an online phone directory.

The suffix '-child' or '-schild' on surnames is usually derived from Germanic words for 'shield.'

So it's not necessarily some hippy dippy name.

And even if it were, that's no reason to deny him --an obviously intelligent young man who's almost 18 years old-- his right to choose his own medical treatment.

18 posted on 08/16/2006 8:31:22 AM PDT by shhrubbery! (Max Boot: Joe Wilson has sold more whoppers than Burger King)
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To: evad
He'll be dead in a year.

Which is his choice to make. Since it does not negatively impact anyone else, society has no business making the choice for him. As I said before, the choice belongs to him, as do the intendant consequences.
19 posted on 08/16/2006 8:31:51 AM PDT by JamesP81 ("Never let your schooling interfere with your education" --Mark Twain)
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To: Mr. Brightside

Please see my comments in post #15 - they address your concern.


20 posted on 08/16/2006 8:32:21 AM PDT by Gabz (Taxaholism, the disease you elect to have (TY xcamel))
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To: Froufrou
The exception would have been had he illegally refused chemo.

And how exactly would it ever be illegal to refuse chemo?
21 posted on 08/16/2006 8:33:26 AM PDT by JamesP81 ("Never let your schooling interfere with your education" --Mark Twain)
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To: presidio9

If he survives: more power to him. If he doesn't: he will have made his contribution.


22 posted on 08/16/2006 8:34:13 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: evad

I hope not. I can say that from what I've read about chemotherapy, I wouldn't personally take it for myself, either.


23 posted on 08/16/2006 8:36:12 AM PDT by freepertoo
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To: JamesP81; Froufrou
And how exactly would it ever be illegal to refuse chemo?

He was court ordered to report to the hospitol to undergo whatever treatment the doctors deemed necessary..........refusing that would probably amount to contempt of court.

24 posted on 08/16/2006 8:36:32 AM PDT by Gabz (Taxaholism, the disease you elect to have (TY xcamel))
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To: Gabz
He was court ordered to report to the hospitol to undergo whatever treatment the doctors deemed necessary..........refusing that would probably amount to contempt of court.

Just because it's a court order doesn't make it right. This is a decision the court is not permitted to make. I would consider him under no obligation to be obedient to unjust law that violates everything the Framers stood for. The Court can go get stuffed.
25 posted on 08/16/2006 8:37:48 AM PDT by JamesP81 ("Never let your schooling interfere with your education" --Mark Twain)
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To: Mr. Brightside
Abortion = premeditated murder.

Big difference.
26 posted on 08/16/2006 8:39:14 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: JamesP81

That's what this was about James. The state took over when his parents refused on his behalf.


27 posted on 08/16/2006 8:41:28 AM PDT by Froufrou
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To: presidio9

The cure rate for Hodgkins Disease is very high. Most patients survive the disease. Many patients who relapse after first line therapy are cured by second-line chemotherapy. So-called alternative therapies have no basis in science and are often peddled by frauds seeking to exploit the sick and desperate. I hope this person gets a second opinion from scientifically minded oncologists and receives proper care.


28 posted on 08/16/2006 8:42:37 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("Dogs look up to us, cats look down on us and pigs treat us as equals" Winston Churchill)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
Certainly there are no guarantees (although success rates are around 85% with standard treatment) and we can hope for a "miracle" but my comment was based on his pursuit of this particular treatment plan....

"He since has been using an alternative herbal treatment called the Hoxsey method, the sale of which was banned in the United States in 1960."

The "alternative treatment" to be provided by his board certified oncologist may work, but it's a big risk. It's going against the odds.

If we were talking about some senior citizen who had pretty much lived out his life I could understand it better but this is a 16 year old kid who could have a long life ahead.

Just my opinion of course but I'd rather my son have the 85% chance.

29 posted on 08/16/2006 8:42:38 AM PDT by evad
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To: Froufrou
That's what this was about James. The state took over when his parents refused on his behalf.

They refused because he wanted them to. He's 16 years old. He's gonna have to start making his own choices, and it sets a very bad example when Uncle Sam tries to do it for him.
30 posted on 08/16/2006 8:43:16 AM PDT by JamesP81 ("Never let your schooling interfere with your education" --Mark Twain)
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To: Always Right
"What you put into your body is one of the most important factors in health, but for the most part Western Medicine does not believe in diet. I guess they don't believe patients can actually stick to a strict diet and instead rely on prescribing pills and treatments for everything."

BINGO!

Absolutely CORRECT!

AloPATHETIC doctors refuse to acknowledge that good nutritious food and exercise are VERY important. Business would dry up and their buddies in the drug companies wouldn't have the enormous profits and people addicted to them.

The standing joke is quick operate before the patient gets better. YOUR health is the last thing they are concerned about. They've gone to the opposite extreme from what the father of medicine stated.
31 posted on 08/16/2006 8:43:48 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: JamesP81

I certainly do not disagree with you.


32 posted on 08/16/2006 8:44:22 AM PDT by Froufrou
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To: presidio9

I think just having the stress of this nonsense over with will be good for his health.


33 posted on 08/16/2006 8:45:40 AM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: JamesP81

I'm in total agreement. I've been on this young man and his family's side since the get go.


34 posted on 08/16/2006 8:46:14 AM PDT by Gabz (Taxaholism, the disease you elect to have (TY xcamel))
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To: presidio9; Blogger; Moose4

This is a rare example of a case where government intervention worked well, with everyone behaving reasonably. It was not unreasonable of the social worker to seek court intervention, given the basic facts of the situation, nor was it unreasonable for the court to intervene. After all, while parents have a right to raise their children as they see fit, both common sense and the law recognize that this doesn't extend to the right to torture them or withhold obviously life-saving medical treatment or restrict them to bizarre diets which guarantee ill health long into adulthood and even risk death prior to reaching adulthood. Hopefully, everyone here can agree that the parents who killed their adoptive daughter by following a kook therapist's advice to subject her to "forced water drinking therapy" as "treatment" for "attachment disorder", had no right to pursue that method of child-rearing.

The court took all the information into account, giving proper weight to the right of parents to govern their children's lives within reason, and the natural (though not legal) right of a legal minor who is old enough and intelligent enough the situation to have a say in his own life-and-death decisions, and to the demonstrated sanity of both the parents and the child. The parents, notwithstanding the kooky name they gave their son, have behaved rationally all along -- they did have him undergo the mainstream recommended treatment of chemotherapy, rather than ignore reality and run straight to some "alternative" practitioner (the sort whose patient rosters are heavy on people with names like "Starchild"). The parents also didn't refuse to deal with the court system, and grab the kid and disappear. Neither the parents nor the child are rejecting all further mainstream medical treatment out of hand, but rather are just rejecting the single one they tried already and decided from experience wasn't worth it.

Too bad this sort of process and outcome is so rare when government authorities intervene in family matters.


35 posted on 08/16/2006 8:48:31 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: evad

Just watch my 23 year old child die in 6 months after 26 days of radiation and 4 rounds of chemotherapy. I'd say in 6 months time he had a total of two weeks where he felt really good.

I'm all for the kid choosing a higher quality of life for however long his life will be-- and avoiding another round of chemo. It's barbarism.


36 posted on 08/16/2006 8:49:02 AM PDT by steveyp
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To: steveyp
I feel bad for your loss, I can even empathize.

It doesn't however change the statistical facts about the success rates of standard treatment in this type of cancer.

37 posted on 08/16/2006 8:51:59 AM PDT by evad
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To: nmh

I have to agree. I'm not prepared to say it is a "conspiracy", but the role of the nutritionist in the cancer fight of my child was pathetic. You cannot tell a young person to "eat whatever they want"-- the presumption then is that nutrition then plays no role in the fight (i.e. Drink ensure or boost).

We were at a comprehensive cancer center, and the consideration given to nutrition was criminal.


38 posted on 08/16/2006 8:53:01 AM PDT by steveyp
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To: evad
The "alternative treatment" to be provided by his board certified oncologist may work, but it's a big risk. It's going against the odds.

The "alternative treatment" might just work. A lot of what makes the body of official medicine came for the "alternative" side. Many medications are derived (purified or synthetic) from natural/herbal medication.

There are many examples of how the "alternative treatment" could be superior. Until the first half of XX century the East European peasants were mocked for their method for curing infected wounds: they were putting the molded bread on them. After the discovery of penicillin this example of peasant superstition disappeared from the handbooks.

39 posted on 08/16/2006 8:53:25 AM PDT by A. Pole (Nicolas Gomez-Davilla: "The function of revolutions is to destroy the illusions that created them.")
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To: Froufrou

The exception would have been had he illegally refused chemo.

A government that can prohibit certain drugs or therapy can force persons to ingest certain drugs or therapy. Happens quite often with the WOD and Ritalin.

Every person breaks the law several times a year, Yet, with all that lawlessness society has not plunged into self-destruction. It didn't last year, a decade ago, fifty years nor a century ago. At the rate of 3,000 new laws and regulations created at the federal level each year how is it that persons and society don't run headlong into destruction without the new laws to come next year and each year thereafter -- yet in reality persons and society increasingly prosper despite not having the supposed benefits of future laws and despite massive lawlessness?

Politicians and bureaucrats are parasitical elites. They feed/leech off the working man and working woman. Without the workers of the world, value producers, the parasitical elites would perish because they are net value destroyers. 

40 posted on 08/16/2006 8:57:33 AM PDT by Zon (Honesty outlives the lie, spin and deception -- It always has -- It always will.)
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To: evad

You aren't the kid and the state has no role in it.

It is to be a personal decision. Would I choose Chemo if the success rate was 80%+, sure.

This is his second time. Given my fictitious numbers, I guess he was in the 20% the first time? If the first drug didn't work, and I presume they used the best coctail against it-- the second best coctail might do less. It could do more...

That's why it's a hard decision. The state can bugger off.


41 posted on 08/16/2006 8:58:35 AM PDT by steveyp
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To: GovernmentShrinker
Too bad this sort of process and outcome is so rare when government authorities intervene in family matters.

The government had no business intervening in this situation to begin with.

Please read my comments regarding social workers in Accomack County at post #15.

42 posted on 08/16/2006 9:00:21 AM PDT by Gabz (Taxaholism, the disease you elect to have (TY xcamel))
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To: Zon

Wow, wax philosophical, wouldja? That was pure honey-drippin' to read, I tell ya. I bet you and I would have the same interpretations of the metaphor and allegory in The Matrix...


43 posted on 08/16/2006 9:00:31 AM PDT by Froufrou
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To: Gabz; Froufrou

Not to go off on a tangent, but this issue kind of points out something that I think a lot of people don't consider. There is a perception among many, subconscious most of the time, that equates the law with morality. That was more true in times past than it is now. Just because the law says something illegal, doesn't mean it's immoral and just because the law says something is legal doesn't make it moral by any stretch of the imagination.


44 posted on 08/16/2006 9:07:22 AM PDT by JamesP81 ("Never let your schooling interfere with your education" --Mark Twain)
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To: JamesP81; Zon

I like what Zon has said more or less in this vein. I would argue that laws were created to rein in on those who lack some of the finer aspects of morality. Theivery comes to mind.


45 posted on 08/16/2006 9:14:07 AM PDT by Froufrou
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To: Zon
Happens quite often with the WOD and Ritalin.

Yeah, they railroaded me into the ritalin crap when I was in third grade. Believe me when I say that that stuff will leave you permanently different, and not for the better.
46 posted on 08/16/2006 9:15:22 AM PDT by JamesP81 ("Never let your schooling interfere with your education" --Mark Twain)
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To: JamesP81; Zon

People don't realize that Ritalin prescribed = enhanced funding for reclassing the child as special ed. It's a racket.


47 posted on 08/16/2006 9:19:17 AM PDT by Froufrou
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To: Froufrou
People don't realize that Ritalin prescribed = enhanced funding for reclassing the child as special ed. It's a racket.

Figures. Personally, I think that stuff should be outlawed. Mind altering drug just doesn't cover it. That stuff turns you into someone else than you were.
48 posted on 08/16/2006 9:21:29 AM PDT by JamesP81 ("Never let your schooling interfere with your education" --Mark Twain)
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To: JamesP81

They're doing it to my step-grandson. I wish they would listen to me. There were posts here last week about it, that [female] teachers can't handle normal little boys.


49 posted on 08/16/2006 9:23:22 AM PDT by Froufrou
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To: JamesP81
Sorry that you got trapped in their parasitical agenda. Most people don't have a clue as to the massive amount of destruction caused by politicians and bureaucrats "just doing their job". One example, the FDA is biased toward prohibiting a drug that kills one out of 100,000 people despite it saving the lives of ten people out of 100,000. How about DDT and the EPA agenda? How many needless deaths did the banning of DDT cause? Millions.

PBS Free to Choose 1980 Vol 7of10 Who Protects the Consumer?
... the consumer. These agencies restrict freedom, stifle beneficial innovation, and become agents for the industries or groups they are intended to regulate. ...

50 posted on 08/16/2006 9:27:03 AM PDT by Zon (Honesty outlives the lie, spin and deception -- It always has -- It always will.)
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