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Syrians Demand Military Action To Reclaim Golan Heights
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 8-18-2006 | Patrick Bishop

Posted on 08/17/2006 6:41:45 PM PDT by blam

Syrians demand military action to reclaim Golan Heights

By Patrick Bishop in Beirut

(Filed: 18/08/2006)

Bashar al-Assad praised Hizbollah's 'victory'

Pressure is mounting on Bashar al-Assad, the Syrian president, to follow Hizbollah's example and consider force to eject Israel from Syrian land that it has occupied for nearly 40 years.

The public appetite for action is just one of the uncomfortable consequences regional rulers are facing, as Arabs compare their leaders' performances over Israel with the Lebanese "resistance".

Mr Assad, who supports Hizbollah, was quick to praise the militia's "victory" in a post-conflict speech and to bathe in its reflected glory.

Their deeds, he said, had "shattered the myth of an invincible army". But his rhetoric has turned public attention once again to the problem of the Golan Heights, captured by Israel in 1967 and annexed in 1981.

"There is anger and daily demands by ordinary people to open this front," said Mohammed Habash, a leading Muslim moderate and member of the Syrian parliament, talking on the al-Arabiya television channel.

He proposed peace negotiations with a strict deadline of a year. If these failed, he said, the Syrians should "try to do what the Lebanese did in their own country".

An official government newspaper, al-Thawra, warned Israel this week that Syrians "will not allow our land to be occupied forever... you must understand that our people will fight the way the Lebanese resistance fought you".

But the idea of Mr Assad going to war with his massively more powerful neighbour has met with laughter in the Arab world. His father, Hafez al-Assad, liked to be known as the "Lion of Damascus". His son is considered to be mousy by comparison, particularly in pro-western Arab countries, whose leaders he attacked in his speech as "half-men in favour of half-solutions".

Jordan's al-Ghad newspaper remarked that "the Syrian president spoke as if he had just returned from the front line". The Saudi-owned Al-Sharq al-Awsat said that, since the loss of the Golan Heights, Syria "has not fired a single shot" at Israel.

Mr Assad's scramble to share Hizbollah's prestige reflects the standing that the organisation has won in 33 days of fighting. Arab nations had an unbroken record of defeat and humiliation at the hands of Israel, and what was no more than a successful defensive action has acquired the lustre of a great success.

Posters have appeared in Beirut showing the Hizbollah leader, Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah, and lorries mounted with Katyusha rockets alongside the words "The Divine Victory", written in English.

Saad Hariri, the leader of the biggest anti-Syria block in the Lebanese parliament, accused Damascus of exploiting the bloodshed and insisted that "the resistance is a product of [all] Lebanon". Meanwhile, Hizbollah has won praise from unlikely quarters. The liberal English language Daily Star newspaper carried a front-page editorial yesterday entitled: "Love it or hate it, Hizbollah has lessons for all Arabs."


TOPICS: Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: action; arabworld; demand; geopolitics; golan; heights; israel; middleeast; military; reclaim; syrians
Oops!

Just ask Olmert, he'll give it back.

Looks like the Israeli's are gonna need some more ammo and bombs.

1 posted on 08/17/2006 6:41:48 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

The first bomb should be Olmert's ass strapped to a skip dropped from a C-130.


2 posted on 08/17/2006 6:44:18 PM PDT by caisson71
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To: blam

Looks like syria will be crying about excessive force soon


3 posted on 08/17/2006 6:46:33 PM PDT by italianquaker (Democrats and media can't win elections at least they can win their phony polls.)
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To: blam

I guess the genuises in the Arab street missed the fact that the Hezbollah "victory" was really a PR victory only. Sure it survived, but its facilities and arsenal were greatly diminished. Not as bad as it could have been for them if the Israeli leadership had more backbone, however.

In the case of Assad--I hope this blows back on him, big time.


4 posted on 08/17/2006 6:50:22 PM PDT by rbg81 (1)
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To: blam
They (Syria) have already attacked the Golan Heights area, in the past, but are too ashamed to do it themselves, so they fund the mercenaries known as Hezbollah, same as Iran does.

It ain't rocket science when the Terrorists are too ashamed to wear the uniforms of the countries that sponsor them.

For all the talk of Martyrdom, these towel-heads are wussies who don't want to wear a uniform, and hide behind skirts and children....and they call themselves "men"? HA !

5 posted on 08/17/2006 6:50:33 PM PDT by traditional1
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To: blam

Give Hez about a month, then smash them again for good,
grind them to dust, then see what the arab street has to say.

The pencil neck geek of Syria would end up losing a lot more of Syria if he attacks the Golan. Which in itself would probably be a good thing.


6 posted on 08/17/2006 6:50:34 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: blam

The Bush administration might have gotten this one right. If the Arab world perceives a victory against Israel then they will hopefully pressure their leaders for military action against Israel. Israel wins that fight every time. And it diverts resources and recruits away from Iraq.


7 posted on 08/17/2006 6:51:15 PM PDT by Axhandle
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To: italianquaker

It amazes me how the MSM created a Hezbollah juggernaut.

This false sense of invincibility that the muzzies have right now is scary because it is going to encourage them to try something else.


8 posted on 08/17/2006 6:52:43 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz ("If you liked what Liberal Leadership did for Israel, you'll LOVE what it can do for America!")
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To: italianquaker

Yes, hopefully from them US and Britain. The snake shouldn't bitch about sharp fangs.


9 posted on 08/17/2006 6:52:50 PM PDT by Safetgiver (Stinko De mayo, Stinko to the Commies.)
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To: traditional1

The only understand force and it embarrasses them every time the Israelis throw them an a$$ whooping.


10 posted on 08/17/2006 6:53:58 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz ("If you liked what Liberal Leadership did for Israel, you'll LOVE what it can do for America!")
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To: blam

Great article! It seems all is not what it appears to be with the "tough" Arab street!

I am sure CNN will be reporting that the Arab world is laughing at Syria! /sarc


11 posted on 08/17/2006 6:54:15 PM PDT by avacado
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To: EQAndyBuzz

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The only understand force and it embarrasses them every time the Israelis throw them an a$$ whooping.
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Very, very true!!! Well said!


12 posted on 08/17/2006 6:55:14 PM PDT by avacado
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To: blam

I'm still betting that Syria was the place where Saddam hid his WMDs--which they will turn loose on Israel once things get crazy again...

Another insane Muslim dictator/leader patterned after Hitler.
Great, just what the world needed when we already have too many of them!!


13 posted on 08/17/2006 6:56:36 PM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX)
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To: avacado

No Nation Building this time MR. Bush. Not one dime. Just good old fashioned butt spanking RETRIBUTION.


14 posted on 08/17/2006 6:57:11 PM PDT by samadams2000
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To: EQAndyBuzz

"It amazes me how the MSM created a Hezbollah juggernaut."

Israel helped


15 posted on 08/17/2006 6:57:16 PM PDT by Shermy (A louder mime)
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To: blam

Until these lunatic overreaching assholes experience the full force of a modern military - they will continue to believe they can beat us in their Jihad...

Semper Fi


16 posted on 08/17/2006 6:59:31 PM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
It amazes me how the MSM created a Hezbollah juggernaut.

Oh, yeah. Not that they wouldn't have anyway, but this particular outcome allows the Israelis to win every encounter and still lose the war because everybody says so.

The nice thing is that the turban boys always believe their own PR. And I suspect the Israelis may be changing their leadership soon - just a hunch. Whoever the new guy turns out to be had better have his act together because the Israelis can afford to lose in the press all they want but they can't afford to lose for real.

17 posted on 08/17/2006 7:00:18 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Shermy; EQAndyBuzz

I disagree that Israel helped. Israel gets extorted over support by the few nations who mostly support her, and so she stops an offensive that she clearly was winning.

The IDF and IAF had pushed some 15 miles into Lebanon clearing out the Hezbollah as they went. Given time, they would have cleared out the entire nest.

But, it's hard working picking out civilian-attired combatants from the civilian population.

Had it been a war, they wouldn't have been so nice.


18 posted on 08/17/2006 7:02:54 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: blam; All

19 posted on 08/17/2006 7:02:57 PM PDT by avacado
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To: avacado

Twins? Fredo Coreleone Assad's little brother?


20 posted on 08/17/2006 7:07:17 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Civilization and democracy are under attack in Israel. Stand by her.)
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To: blam

Let's hope that the Syrians are actually serious about this.


21 posted on 08/17/2006 7:09:04 PM PDT by kesg
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To: avacado

Posts such as that crack me up........


22 posted on 08/17/2006 7:16:38 PM PDT by Radix (“Wherever they burn books they will also, in the end, burn human beings.”)
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To: river rat

eXCELLANT, ARTICULATE POST!!!!!


23 posted on 08/17/2006 7:19:22 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Moderate Mooslims.....what's that?)
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To: avacado
lol now thats creepy
24 posted on 08/17/2006 7:20:19 PM PDT by StoneWall Brigade (America Love it or Leave it!)
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To: Radix

i say we kick there ass take names and have a beer while doing it (:.


25 posted on 08/17/2006 7:21:09 PM PDT by StoneWall Brigade (America Love it or Leave it!)
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To: traditional1

Really if you think about it, why should they wear uniforms and follow the Laws of Land Warfare?

We (and Israel) are already giving captured terrorists all the privileges of POWs - privileges that are only guaranteed to uniformed soldiers of a legitimate army answerable to a national government. Our enemies would gain no extra benefit from wearing uniforms because they are getting all of the benefits already, for nothing!

If we really wanted to make them wear uniforms, we'd be shooting them as spies at time of capture. Of course that would not be Pee Cee...instead it's 3 hots and a cot. You get to rest up until some liberal lawyer brings a lawsuit to get you released - and then it's back to killing infidels again.

Under those circumstances, who WOULD wear a uniform, especially when the Geneva Conv. and the rest of the Laws of War are foolish infidel concepts that you don't care about?


26 posted on 08/17/2006 7:25:10 PM PDT by Pete98 (After his defeat by the Son of God, Satan changed his name to Allah and started over.)
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To: river rat

Oh please...they will never feel the full force of a modern military.

Gulf War 1 was (mark my words) the very LAST attempt of an Arab nation to fight a modern military in conventional warfare. After the Highway of Death, they will NEVER try it again. They learned their lesson from GW1 and have been practicing guerrilla tactics ever since.

From here on out no Arab nation will ever field any uniformed force against us. Everyone we kill will be in civvies, and the media will lap it up.


27 posted on 08/17/2006 7:29:08 PM PDT by Pete98 (After his defeat by the Son of God, Satan changed his name to Allah and started over.)
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To: Pete98
"why should they wear uniforms and follow the Laws of Land Warfare?"

You are right on the money. That's the issue I saw when the ruling came down that the Gitmo prisoners were entitled to all the benefits of U.S. Citizens and legitimate "armies" (as opposed to the cutesy "enemy combatatants" phraseology used). We can't even call them Terrorists in the MSM!

There is so much give-away to non-qualified people by the U.S. from the Liberals and Pee Cee crowd (look at the illegal alien problems, and you see the same situation---freebies for NON-eligible people).

28 posted on 08/17/2006 7:32:11 PM PDT by traditional1
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To: traditional1

make that enemy "combatants"....I type too slow.


29 posted on 08/17/2006 7:34:40 PM PDT by traditional1
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To: avacado

30 posted on 08/17/2006 7:36:25 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Get off my lawn!)
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To: reagan_fanatic

you know sometimes i really wonder about the American People.


31 posted on 08/17/2006 7:38:13 PM PDT by StoneWall Brigade (America Love it or Leave it!)
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To: StoneWall Brigade
you know sometimes i really wonder about the American People.

Curiosity is a wonderful thing to have, but it did kill the cat.
32 posted on 08/17/2006 7:45:33 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Get off my lawn!)
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To: river rat
I agree , we should clearly state that an attack on Israel will be considered an attack on the United States.
We owe Syria big time for allowing all the jihadi assholes
into Iraq . It's time for payback . Damascus needs to resemble
south Beirut. Let's get it on!
33 posted on 08/17/2006 7:47:23 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: italianquaker
Typical Arabs--talk a big fight, and then when they inevitably get their sorry asses kicked, they run to the anti-Semitic U.N. to bail them out.
34 posted on 08/17/2006 7:47:53 PM PDT by Uncle Vlad
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To: blam

Did anyone build the neutron bomb that was proposed in the 80's?


35 posted on 08/17/2006 8:27:00 PM PDT by jeremiah (Didn't we vote for that Bush fella, because he was TOUGH on TERROR?)
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To: river rat
Until these lunatic overreaching assholes experience the full force of a modern military - they will continue to believe they can beat us in their Jihad...

That should have occurred on 9/12/01.

36 posted on 08/17/2006 8:27:11 PM PDT by ASA Vet (3.03)
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To: samadams2000
No nation buildingThat is what Americans are PO'd about. They want decisive action. They voted against this kinder, gentler war. They want the dogs unleashed, and victory. As Patton said, Americans despise a loser, and love a winner. Give them a victory, and be a hero. Lose, and be the goat of history.
37 posted on 08/17/2006 8:29:35 PM PDT by jeremiah (Didn't we vote for that Bush fella, because he was TOUGH on TERROR?)
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To: Pete98
They learned their lesson from GW1 and have been practicing guerrilla tactics ever since.

What type of guerrilla tactics will Syria us to push Israel out of it's fixed positions on the Golan Heights?

38 posted on 08/17/2006 8:39:28 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (This space for rent.)
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To: Axhandle

My thoughts exactly...that this was pre-planned...pieces falling into place.


39 posted on 08/17/2006 8:41:02 PM PDT by Dr Stormfist
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To: blam

Olmert aside, this is the kind of war the IDF wants to fight. Armor vs armor, air force v air force. Syria and Assad should be very careful how they interpret what happened in Lebanon. It doesn't replicate if Syrian forces try to seize the Golan. If they try, Hezbollah may be the only serious Arab military left in the region, once the shooting stops.


40 posted on 08/17/2006 8:45:50 PM PDT by xkaydet65 (Peace, Love, Brotherhood, and Firepower. And the greatest of these is Firepower!)
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To: Mike Darancette

They won't need to push Israel out. Israel will give up and leave on its own, just like it surrendered and left Lebanon. Just like it surrendered Gaza.

Actually, I doubt Hezbollah even cares about those positions on the Golan. If the artillery and troops in those fixed positions aren't doing anything, then Hez doesn't need to worry about them. A weapon is useless if it's never fired.

It's the same sort of calculation with America's nuclear weapons. You could ask the same question: "How could the Arabs ever beat us, we have nukes and they can't beat that!"

Well effectively, we don't have a single nuke in our arsenal. That is because we would never use them, and our enemies know it. Our enemies believe that we have completely lost the will to fight, so they are not too worries about anything we might threaten to do, because they know we won't follow up. Same applies to Israel.

I keep seeing posts like "Hezbollah is lucky because the IDF COULD have wiped them all out if they'd wanted to!" Well, I guess Israel didn't want to. Instead they surrendered and the sharks smell blood in the water.

Now the enemies of Israel know that they can fire 200 rockets a day into Israel and nothing will happen except a few blown up buildings. Yeah, a few Lebanese died, but muslim women all have 8 kids so who cares? Not Hezbollah, that's for sure.

Israel's enemies know it has lost the will to fight, and when it's got a group of committed, strong-willed people with knives who believe utterly in their cause, vs. a group of timid, weak, scared people who don't really want to fight - but have fighter planes and nukes - the smart money is on the knifemen every time.

Unfortunately.


41 posted on 08/17/2006 8:53:22 PM PDT by Pete98 (After his defeat by the Son of God, Satan changed his name to Allah and started over.)
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To: xkaydet65

I expect Hezbollah to join forces with Syria, first, as Israel is their common enemy, and second, as a thank-you for all the indispensible logistical support in the past years.
It does not really make any difference for Hezbollah if the Southern sector is controlled by the UN, because Hezbollah does not recognize the mandate/authority of the UN whatsoever. And the UN, being the UN, will probably sit back and let things happen as they happen.


42 posted on 08/17/2006 8:56:06 PM PDT by Bazooka (When Tolerance met Indifference, it was love at first sight.)
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To: italianquaker
Looks like syria will be crying about excessive force soon

Assuming they can cry from under the rubble of their bunkers.

43 posted on 08/17/2006 9:37:24 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: avacado

Bashir is merely the Iranian mullahs' pencil necked rent boy..


44 posted on 08/17/2006 10:05:03 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: blam

If Israel loses the Golan it is finished.

He who controls the high ground wins the wars. And the Golan looks down on most all Israel.

But hey, many Jews there seem indifferent to destruction, just ask Olmert.


45 posted on 08/18/2006 3:49:06 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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To: jeremiah

"Did anyone build the neutron bomb that was proposed in the 80's?"

Carter pulled the funding, if I recall.


46 posted on 08/18/2006 3:57:38 AM PDT by toddlintown (IT)
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To: toddlintown

It would seem to be the ultimate weapon, kill people, leave buildings. It would save lots of money in rebuild costs, and put the lie to Allah being the "one god". Leaflet Falluja, then destroy all that will not leave through checkpoints......Kinda like using Raid on cockroaches.


47 posted on 08/18/2006 6:21:34 AM PDT by jeremiah (Didn't we vote for that Bush fella, because he was TOUGH on TERROR?)
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To: Bazooka

"It does not really make any difference for Hezbollah if the Southern sector is controlled by the UN, because Hezbollah does not recognize the mandate/authority of the UN whatsoever."

Neither should we


48 posted on 08/18/2006 6:24:52 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (In a world where Carpenters come back from the dead, ALL things are possible.)
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To: Pete98

It is time Israel told Syria and Iran to evacuate their capitals within 48 hours.....

Cause next year, Hezzie rockets may well have Iranian WMDs on them.


49 posted on 08/18/2006 9:15:42 AM PDT by TomasUSMC ((FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.))
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